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Naffer posted:I'm angrily reading this thread while listening to music on my brown Zune 30. Look at this scrub who doesn't own a limited edition red model.
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Mr Funkface posted:Windows Phone 10 - Swiping is improved Eh, it'd be funny if it weren't beta software. Actually Windows Phone - It'd be funny if it weren't production software
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Apr 24, 2015 22:39
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No-contract T-Mobile Lumia 640 leaked on the MS store website for $89.
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Apr 25, 2015 00:46
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That's a nice drat price for a 640 wich is what the 635 should have been.
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Apr 25, 2015 09:57
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Will the 640 work on ATT LTE band?
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Shumagorath posted:It's not quite that bad but Android (and Windows Phone and to a much lesser extent Windows proper) are bad about giving away access to location / mic / pictures library / whatever with no way to deny or prompt on access. Blackberry had that kind of control since BB4 when custom apps were a massive engineering effort and it's sorely missed.  Granted, I still don't think anything allows you to deny/prompt or access except maybe location. Also wow, the battery life on my 640 is pretty ridiculous compared to my aging 820. 
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Can't find that on my 920 - how did you get to that screen? It's a step up but coming from BlackBerry where you could lock down anything and everything it's still annoying that we went backward. WP is still malware-free as far as I know but stories about Facebook randomly turning on your microphone in Android and other stuff bugs me. Edit: I've also never been able to find good documentation on Windows Phone's use of device encryption. I know you can mandate BitLocker if you connect to a domain but I don't have one. Does setting a PIN encrypt the whole device minus the SD card? I know you can't see files in Explorer without unlocking the device but that could be a "Go Away" sign for all I know. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 25, 2015 |
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Apr 25, 2015 21:45
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Doomsday Jesus posted:Will the 640 work on ATT LTE band? AT&T has the XL listed on their website, so probably?
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Apr 26, 2015 20:00
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Shumagorath posted:Can't find that on my 920 - how did you get to that screen? It's a step up but coming from BlackBerry where you could lock down anything and everything it's still annoying that we went backward. WP is still malware-free as far as I know but stories about Facebook randomly turning on your microphone in Android and other stuff bugs me. As I said, it's on WP8.1 Update 2, which comes preloaded on the 640, but I don't think it's made it to any other device yet. I think someone in the thread said that they managed to get it accidentally while trying to update to the WP10 preview, but aside from that, it's just a case of waiting. When the update is installed, all the different settings will actually be filed into categories - and it's just the last option under Privacy.
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Apr 27, 2015 11:57
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Apps on my 1020 keep randomly closing... For example this is the 2nd time I've had to phone post this because I crashed the last attempt. Any idea what is causing this? Has happened in just about every app...
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Apr 27, 2015 16:54
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Venusy posted:As I said, it's on WP8.1 Update 2, which comes preloaded on the 640, but I don't think it's made it to any other device yet. I think someone in the thread said that they managed to get it accidentally while trying to update to the WP10 preview, but aside from that, it's just a case of waiting. I saw a brief moment of Update 2 on my 1520 before it went ahead with WP10 preview. This followed restoring the phone (using the Windows restore manager or whatever it's called) after it bricked on the fastrack insider update. It's a Mexican 1520.3 on T-Mob US. Chronologically: WP 8.1 insider update caused bricking restore with PC/USB link software hard reset run insider fastrack WP 8.1 Update 2! run insider fastrack WP10 (outlook is confusing) ymmv
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Apr 27, 2015 18:34
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Apr 27, 2015 19:22
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Microsoft hit with patent infringement. Can't catch a drat break. "Gentlemen, it's been an honor playing with you tonight."
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MobMentality posted:Microsoft hit with patent infringement. Can't catch a drat break. "Gentlemen, it's been an honor playing with you tonight." Any more info? Or is this just a hit and run? BUILD is coming, so as a windows phone user I am prepared to be disappointed.
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Apr 28, 2015 02:07
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Doomsday Jesus posted:Any more info? Or is this just a hit and run? Its good you have your expectations set correctly.
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Doomsday Jesus posted:Any more info? Or is this just a hit and run? http://fortune.com/2015/04/27/microsoft-phones-infringe-patents/
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CalvinandHobbes posted:Its good you have your expectations set correctly. I am an early adopter. I am used to it.
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Apr 28, 2015 03:00
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Shumagorath posted:Edit: I've also never been able to find good documentation on Windows Phone's use of device encryption. I know you can mandate BitLocker if you connect to a domain but I don't have one. Does setting a PIN encrypt the whole device minus the SD card? I know you can't see files in Explorer without unlocking the device but that could be a "Go Away" sign for all I know.
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Apr 28, 2015 03:33
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Doomsday Jesus posted:BUILD is coming, so as a windows phone user I am prepared to be disappointed. Brace yourself for android apps
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Apr 28, 2015 03:57
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Factor Mystic posted:Brace yourself for android apps If they make tools to help port Android apps to Windows Phone, then i'm cool with it. If it's "Android VMs for all!" then gently caress them. I would not touch a Windows Phone again.
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Apr 28, 2015 04:06
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Shumagorath posted:Sorry to quote this so soon but... anyone? Christ I hate my phone options right now but if we don't get a flagship for Windows 10 on account of "hardware costs" I'm headed back to Blackberry where at least they don't pretend the platform is going anywhere.
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Apr 28, 2015 04:08
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Drastic Actions posted:If they make tools to help port Android apps to Windows Phone, then i'm cool with it. It's kinda this one. They're writing tools that let you make Android and Windows apps at basically the same time with (theoretically) minimal extra work. The idea is that Android developers will use the tool and be able to quickly spit out a Windows version when they're done.
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Apr 28, 2015 04:27
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Uthor posted:It's kinda this one. They're writing tools that let you make Android and Windows apps at basically the same time with (theoretically) minimal extra work. The idea is that Android developers will use the tool and be able to quickly spit out a Windows version when they're done. Here comes snapchat
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Apr 28, 2015 04:31
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Uthor posted:It's kinda this one. They're writing tools that let you make Android and Windows apps at basically the same time with (theoretically) minimal extra work. The idea is that Android developers will use the tool and be able to quickly spit out a Windows version when they're done. They won't though I am imagining a PM or executive being told about this by an excitable Microsoft-fan engineer, and in my head all he says is "yeah uh maybe next release" and then immediately forgets about it forever
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Apr 28, 2015 04:46
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loquacius posted:They won't though Microsoft is all about partnerships. Xamarin fills this role. Tighter integration with them would make sense.
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clandestine cactus posted:Microsoft is all about partnerships. Well they were until they started Office 365/Azure/Hosted Solutions and producing hardware. They went into direct competition with many of their historical partners. There has been tremendous backlash but it's not something you see out in the open.
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Apr 28, 2015 06:14
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Now everyone's bullshitting about Microsoft allowing to run Android apps straight on Windows 10. Doesn't even make any loving sense, if you can't get Play Services up and running.
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Yeah running a JRE where Android apps could run on a Windows 10 machine doesn't sound hard (I am of course not an Android dev so I don't know what it requires), it's getting access to the Google Play Store that'll never ever happen
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Combat Pretzel posted:Doesn't even make any loving sense Well that must mean it's a guaranteed lock
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Apr 29, 2015 01:59
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Windows Phone - Doesn't even make any loving sense
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Paul Thurrott just about lost his mind at the prospect of an Android runtime in Windows 10 and I'm with him. Universal apps compiling for Android is much less likely to have any kind of market impact but it's not throwing in the towel.
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Universal apps compiling for Android would require the whole WinRT namespace reimplemented in Java. That's quite something and I rather doubt it. For one, if it were a subset, it'd be awfully limiting, and second, the WinRT.UI is pretty complex.
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Shumagorath posted:Paul Thurrott just about lost his mind at the prospect of an Android runtime in Windows 10 and I'm with him. I don't think MS has a choice anymore if they want to maintain a mobile OS presence. They haven't been able to buy, bully, or force their way into the apps they need (Snapchat as one). They've pushed pretty hard but have not been able to get any kind of serious foothold. The Windows Phone devices run the exact same hardware as the most common Android devices so it's pretty trivial to allow support of Android apps running on Windows Phone. They'll likely get better support (faster updates) of the Android apps in their own store than they could as Windows Phone apps. The really crazy thing would be if they drafted off the Amazon app store and helped replicate more google play services with Amazon instead of setting up their own.
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Excellent news! my nexus 5 is fixed
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Microsoft, following in the lucrative and venerable Blackberry footsteps.
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Stick100 posted:They haven't been able to buy, bully, or force their way into the apps they need (Snapchat as one). Stick100 posted:They'll likely get better support (faster updates) of the Android apps in their own store than they could as Windows Phone apps. The really crazy thing would be if they drafted off the Amazon app store and helped replicate more google play services with Amazon instead of setting up their own. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Apr 29, 2015 |
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cisco privilege posted:Microsoft, following in the lucrative and venerable Blackberry footsteps. The Android-on-BB gambit was a decent idea; where they hosed up was in the execution (Android apps ran like poo poo on their crappy VMs) Shumagorath posted:Rudy Huyn, Lord and Savior of Windows Phone, wrote 6Snap and Snapchat purposely blocked it. They CEO is used to his parents throwing money at him to buy his love so he's basically a 20-something petulant child building his empire on a mountain of kiddie porn. Tbf they blocked all third-party apps, not just 6snap, and WP users just felt that particularly hard because they haven't deigned to write a first-party one for the platform
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loquacius posted:The Android-on-BB gambit was a decent idea; where they hosed up was in the execution (Android apps ran like poo poo on their crappy VMs) Except it won't even be that you can just side load an APK, right? There will be at least some work needed from the developer to make their Android app compatible?
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Android apps coming to windows 10. iOS apps can be brought into visual studio and converted. "Bring in the code, debug it, then execute." Doomsday Jesus fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Apr 29, 2015 |
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Yeah the way it's looking is easy ports, apparently. You still have to explicitly make the decision to release on Win10 (which means a lot of developers won't) e: Android and iOS are both supported this way; one of these was expected and the other is not.
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