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Larry Hogan about to become a VP option. Chris Christie without the baggage and a lot more dog whistle.
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SirKibbles posted:Yeah but I'm referring to them being actively courted by politicians before that they were always a pain in the rear end but not to this level. You're still wrong. Reagan courted the religious right in the late 70s.
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SirKibbles posted:Yeah but I'm referring to them being actively courted by politicians before that they were always a pain in the rear end but not to this level. Nope, the religious right formed in the 70s, became a big organized power in the 80s, peaked in the early-mid 90s and is now in slow decline. People complain about how much power they have now but yes it used to be worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E9sZqunJ_M EDIT: I don't think they could have picked better background music for this video. MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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MaxxBot posted:Nope, the religious right formed in the 70s, became a big organized power in the 80s, peaked in the early-mid 90s and is now in slow decline. People complain about how much power they have now but yes it used to be worse. Wow, the Homintern, how has that portmanteau of Homosexual and Comintern not survived in common use?
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Zelder posted:Eh, the republicans are still lovely to black people, I can't imagine they're suddenly going to stop being sorry to the gays. Millenials everywhere in America are much more socially liberal on things like LGBT rights and women's rights. Aka things they can relate to when the other party is white. Poors and minorities on the other hand can continue to get hosed
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The Real Paddy posted:Wow, the Homintern, how has that portmanteau of Homosexual and Comintern not survived in common use?
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Nessus posted:That's real!? I thought I was clever inventing it! e: as an expression/bad joke, obviously. That was my initial thought as well but I guess it's actually a real term that used to be popular with those charming folks over at National Review, I too am surprised that the term fell by the wayside. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homintern
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MaxxBot posted:Nope, the religious right formed in the 70s, became a big organized power in the 80s, peaked in the early-mid 90s and is now in slow decline. People complain about how much power they have now but yes it used to be worse. That video gave me the willies.
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MaxxBot posted:Nope, the religious right formed in the 70s, became a big organized power in the 80s, peaked in the early-mid 90s and is now in slow decline. People complain about how much power they have now but yes it used to be worse. Not to mention that before say the 1960s they didn't need to exist as a separate thing because they were dominant in politics. Until then it was perfectly legal to mandate students pray a certain way in schools, to actually ban evolution while mandating creationism, and boy howdy all those anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-divorce laws you could ask for as a loony Christian.
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The Real Paddy posted:Wow, the Homintern, how has that portmanteau of Homosexual and Comintern not survived in common use? The term Homonazi Junta has been thrown around in Ukraine with the recent unrest.
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Y'know, belatedly, but - from my perspective as a perennial dieter and an amused observer of these elections, I feel that the media really dropped the ball on that Jeb Bush weight loss thing. Because there are so many questions to be asked: What sort of fat burners does the Governor use? (Are they meth derivatives?) How could an average voter his age be able to approximate his diet? How does the Governor plan to negotiate the yo-yo effect while holding the nuclear codes? How does he plan to hold the nuclear codes while negotiating the yo-yo effect? Is the Governor a yo-yo effect denialist? Can someone please ask Jeb Bush if he is a yo-yo effect denialist?
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Apr 28, 2015 07:37
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Rexicon1 posted:What the gently caress is a yoyo effect I don't know that I've ever heard it call the yo-yo effect but i think the poster above you is referring to binge dieting and people 'yo-yoing' from high weight, to low weight, to higher weight. Generally this happens to people who try to totally transform their diet overnight. They get a few weeks/months into it and then boom.
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MaxxBot posted:Nope, the religious right formed in the 70s, became a big organized power in the 80s, peaked in the early-mid 90s and is now in slow decline. People complain about how much power they have now but yes it used to be worse. Safe Sodomy Subsidies 
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mooyashi posted:a cold, bald white house I thought Graham was the hawk candidate? Or is he now too soft?
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Hillary changed her icon   Meanwhile... quote:Former President Bill Clinton accepted more than $2.5 million in speaking fees from 13 major corporations and trade associations that lobbied the U.S. State Department while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, an International Business Times investigation has found. The fees were paid directly to the former president, and not directed to his philanthropic foundation. Doesn't seem like this is going away any time soon.
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It's going to be funny as hell when the usuals try arguing Halliburton-Cheney was different.
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De Nomolos posted:Larry Hogan about to become a VP option. Chris Christie without the baggage and a lot more dog whistle. Do you really think so? He's only been in office for three months.
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I have a hard time digging into this and understanding it - what is the chance hillary actually did something awful with this whole thing? the media is going to spin it a certain way irrespective so I count on goons to cut through and deliver the God Honest Truth.
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SKELETONS posted:I have a hard time digging into this and understanding it - what is the chance hillary actually did something awful with this whole thing? the media is going to spin it a certain way irrespective so I count on goons to cut through and deliver the God Honest Truth. Not gonna pretend like I've looked into this terribly deeply, but I imagine the story is similar to the one with Uranium One: it may look sketchy if you don't think about it, but the contracts ultimately had to be approved by more people than just Hillary, so it's unlikely anything actually improper took place.
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Apr 28, 2015 15:21
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Joementum posted:Hillary changed her icon Benghazi hasn't gone away either but unless you're already a gop supporter I don't think it amounts to much. I don't think this will read any different than "business as usual for politicians" except among people who absolutely will never have voted for Hillary in the first place, nor does it have anything that would keep dem supporters at home in 16.
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Mr Jaunts posted:Not gonna pretend like I've looked into this terribly deeply, but I imagine the story is similar to the one with Uranium One: it may look sketchy if you don't think about it, but the contracts ultimately had to be approved by more people than just Hillary, so it's unlikely anything actually improper took place. How many examples of the Clintons being Bad At Government, bending ethics rules and committing clear ethics violations does it take before you start thinking that maybe Hillary shouldn't be president and doesn't deserve your benefit of the doubt? This is a politician personally enriching themselves by taking money from people who they are taking decisions about. It's banana republic level corruption.
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Pinterest Mom posted:How many examples of the Clintons being Bad At Government, bending ethics rules and committing clear ethics violations does it take before you start thinking that maybe Hillary shouldn't be president and doesn't deserve your benefit of the doubt? And yet, still far less terrifying than any Republican alternative.
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If only there was some way to elect someone who isn't Hillary Clinton, but also isn't a Republican.
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Pinterest Mom posted:If only there was some way to elect someone who isn't Hillary Clinton, but also isn't a Republican. Yea but there isn't.
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Pinterest Mom posted:If only there was some way to elect someone who isn't Hillary Clinton, but also isn't a Republican. Do you think one exists in the year 2016, in the realm of reality?
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Sharkie posted:Do you think one exists in the year 2016, in the realm of reality?  
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c'mon o'malley, pull out a mega obama
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Lol, no.
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Pinterest Mom posted:How many examples of the Clintons being Bad At Government, bending ethics rules and committing clear ethics violations does it take before you start thinking that maybe Hillary shouldn't be president and doesn't deserve your benefit of the doubt? I'm still giving Hillary the benefit of the doubt because Republicans have been throwing bullshit scandals at the Clintons for literally as long as I've been alive, and frankly they've cried wolf too many times to deserve it themselves. And don't get me wrong, I'm no big fan of Hillary, there are plenty of legit criticisms of her, but these "clear ethics violations" are simply not those. The "Clinton Cash" thing is shaping up to be nonsense, and this article clearly states that not only do federal ethics rules not bar the acceptance of speaking fees, but that State's ethics counsel approved Bill's speaking engagements, even those that occurred while lobbying the department. Besides, I'd much rather her than another Cheney-Halliburton situation.
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When was the last time he said or did anything to suggest he's going to run in 16?
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Pinterest Mom posted:How many examples of the Clintons being Bad At Government, bending ethics rules and committing clear ethics violations does it take before you start thinking that maybe Hillary shouldn't be president and doesn't deserve your benefit of the doubt? There's reason to suspect the timing but there's no evidence indicating actual quid pro quo. Bill Clinton wasn't working at the State Department and he wasn't operating in any governmental capacity pertaining to the decision process at the State Department. The fact that he's married to the then-Secretary of State doesn't suddenly put the money in Hillary's pocket. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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Apr 28, 2015 15:44
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Sharkie posted:When was the last time he said or did anything to suggest he's going to run in 16? DynamicSloth posted:Lol, no.
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Apr 28, 2015 15:45
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DynamicSloth posted:Lol, no. Yeah he owns.
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Apr 28, 2015 15:47
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Didn't he have his own money scandal? Some dark money thing? I mean he's probably marginally better than Webb, at least.
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Apr 28, 2015 15:48
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Series DD Funding posted:Yeah he owns. "Owning" and being ready for prime time are two different things. Gov. Schweitzer posted:If you were just a regular person, you turned on the TV, and you saw Eric Cantor talking, I would say—and I'm fine with gay people, that's all right—but my gaydar is 60-70 percent.
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Series DD Funding posted:Yeah he owns. If you think that calling a woman a whore because of her political positions "owns" then, uh, good luck with that, but DynamicSloth posted:"Owning" and being ready for prime time are two different things.
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