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Fire Storm
Aug 8, 2004

what's the point of life
if there are no sexborgs?

Carecat posted:

Good news, you got covered by Scott Manley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pChmQz6FpR0
I blame him for my purchase! :)

Was in my wish list anyway, came in here after watching his video and learning it has goons in the development team sealed the deal for me.

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Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

I really enjoy playing this but I've run into a problem, dunno if it's a bug or me doing something wrong. None of the tier 3 resources I have apply any pressure, but their secondary bonuses do work.


I'm getting the capacity increase but no pressure, from any of the t3 resources I have. Tried other planets too, they just sit there at 0/16. I also don't understand why none of the civilian industry buildings are upgrading, they do on another labor world I have but not on this one.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Vodos posted:

I really enjoy playing this but I've run into a problem, dunno if it's a bug or me doing something wrong. None of the tier 3 resources I have apply any pressure, but their secondary bonuses do work.


I'm getting the capacity increase but no pressure, from any of the t3 resources I have. Tried other planets too, they just sit there at 0/16. I also don't understand why none of the civilian industry buildings are upgrading, they do on another labor world I have but not on this one.

Mono? Found the problem: you need more population (on the producing/exporting planet) in order to generate pressure. 8 population is the minimum required for a T3 resource but you need 16pop to get full pressure (and money/income)

Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

Oh, facepalm, I've been keeping them at minimum population so I'd only have my important planets in the "enough pop to colonize" rider. Thanks!

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


I want to start a multigalaxy run but I have no idea of what a good ration of empires to stars would be. Any recommendations?

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Sedisp posted:

I want to start a multigalaxy run but I have no idea of what a good ration of empires to stars would be. Any recommendations?

I haven't obtained this game yet, but it'd be pretty tempting to me to place an "ancient" civilization in a remote galaxy that has plenty of time to super-develop.

Firgof
Dec 27, 2009

The Librarian is pure.
Former Star Ruler 2 Dev.

Sedisp posted:

I want to start a multigalaxy run but I have no idea of what a good ration of empires to stars would be. Any recommendations?

Our recommendation is 10-15 systems per empire.

Edit: Work on the research grid continues to continue continue.

Firgof fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Apr 28, 2015

Kinetica
Aug 16, 2011
I'm liking the way that's looking so far!

wayniechan
Jul 16, 2004
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This game is too much fun. To solve the problem of the enemy retaking territory, I've been putting giant engines on captured enemy planets and driving them back through gates to my homeworld to join my collection. That's right, I am space carmen sandiago.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

wayniechan posted:

This game is too much fun. To solve the problem of the enemy retaking territory, I've been putting giant engines on captured enemy planets and driving them back through gates to my homeworld to join my collection. That's right, I am space carmen sandiago.

Blow up the star afterwards for good measure.

Fire Storm
Aug 8, 2004

what's the point of life
if there are no sexborgs?
Have one star system with 100 planets and the rest of space is empty.

Played a game recently, NPC (that had taken over a few other empires and had them as vassals) declared war on me, I had a loving huge military compared to them and asked them to surrender and they said no, had star destroying ships that popped a few stars and wouldn't you know it they surrendered pretty drat quickly!

Any plans for Dyson spheres and planetary engines on those?
... can you move a ringworld with one? Hmm... I may need to try that.

wayniechan
Jul 16, 2004
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Fire Storm posted:

Have one star system with 100 planets and the rest of space is empty.

I see you've seen my galaxy

Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81


So I lost my first game pretty quickly, mostly because I didn't really have much idea what to do, but I think I've got that under control. My question is, how important is the ship building? Can I play okay with the defaults, and if not, can I just download a bunch to get me mostly covered. I'm not really interested with fiddling around much designing things.

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

MooCowlian posted:

So I lost my first game pretty quickly, mostly because I didn't really have much idea what to do, but I think I've got that under control. My question is, how important is the ship building? Can I play okay with the defaults, and if not, can I just download a bunch to get me mostly covered. I'm not really interested with fiddling around much designing things.

You can usually hit random a few times and it comes up with workable ship designs which only need minor tweaking. Or just grab ships off the user created ships which you can do from ingame from the community tab, there are lots of good ones.

Takkaryx
Oct 17, 2007

Bunnies (very useful) Scientific Facts: Bunnies never close doors
The community page is nice, but I wish there was a way to sort or search by cost/labor/size/role/tech requirements. Once you've found a layout that works though, I like that I can just increase ship size as my econ gets rolling.

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN

Takkaryx posted:

The community page is nice, but I wish there was a way to sort or search by cost/labor/size/role/tech requirements. Once you've found a layout that works though, I like that I can just increase ship size as my econ gets rolling

As the size of my empire grows, so to do the size of my ships. However every time I bump my capitals up a notch or two, I decrease the size of their weapons and add maybe one or two more. I like more dakka.

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

I usually come up with an internal story about my empire and why they do the things they do. It helps to have a bunch of portraits of varying styles to set the mood.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=430173181

Zombie #246
Apr 26, 2003

Murr rgghhh ahhrghhh fffff

Vodos posted:

I really enjoy playing this but I've run into a problem, dunno if it's a bug or me doing something wrong. None of the tier 3 resources I have apply any pressure, but their secondary bonuses do work.


I'm getting the capacity increase but no pressure, from any of the t3 resources I have. Tried other planets too, they just sit there at 0/16. I also don't understand why none of the civilian industry buildings are upgrading, they do on another labor world I have but not on this one.

What screen is this? I don't recall something like this in the first game.

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

By the by, I love the concept of The Expanse galaxy. With a little tweaking of the game options it can actually be pretty difficult too, the big one is Remnant Aggression. Being the only empire means the pirates always come after you too, so it's not without conflict, you're just not racing vs other empires.

If competing with empires isn't your thing or you just aren't in the mood, I highly recommend trying that map.

Space Skeleton fucked around with this message at 13:47 on May 3, 2015

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Wee Tinkle Wand posted:

By the by, I love the concept of The Expanse galaxy. With a little tweaking of the game options it can actually be pretty difficult too, the big one is Remnant Aggression. Being the only empire means the pirates always come after you too, so it's not without conflict, you're just not racing vs other empires.

If competing with empires isn't your thing or you just aren't in the mood, I highly recommend trying that map.

If you do feel like competing and set a universe with multiple copies of The Expanse, it should be noted that the AI really doesn't really know how to handle it. Also there seems to be a minor bug that makes the remnant-homeworld fleets from galaxies 2 through N all generate in the first(?) galaxy, so one empire will have extra difficulty taking that system.

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN

Zombie #246 posted:

What screen is this? I don't recall something like this in the first game.

That's the planet management screen.

USMC_Karl
Nov 17, 2003

SUPPORTER OF THE REINSTATED LAWFUL HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT. HAOLES GET OFF DA `AINA.
Well I picked this up due to Scott's stream and have worked my way through the tutorial. Getting ready to jump into my first game so.... wish me luck!

One quick question I have about ship construction, however. I love, love, love the idea of building a spinal mount ship. Is that a possibility in this game? By that I mean, can I build a ship around a single, giganto weapon? Does the amount of... er... area given over to a weapon scale up its effectiveness?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

USMC_Karl posted:

Well I picked this up due to Scott's stream and have worked my way through the tutorial. Getting ready to jump into my first game so.... wish me luck!

One quick question I have about ship construction, however. I love, love, love the idea of building a spinal mount ship. Is that a possibility in this game? By that I mean, can I build a ship around a single, giganto weapon? Does the amount of... er... area given over to a weapon scale up its effectiveness?

Yes, though there is no specific bonus for building the ship around it save for the extra tiles you allocate to it, it just means the ship will punch above its weight a bit.

q_k
Dec 31, 2007





USMC_Karl posted:

Well I picked this up due to Scott's stream and have worked my way through the tutorial. Getting ready to jump into my first game so.... wish me luck!

One quick question I have about ship construction, however. I love, love, love the idea of building a spinal mount ship. Is that a possibility in this game? By that I mean, can I build a ship around a single, giganto weapon? Does the amount of... er... area given over to a weapon scale up its effectiveness?

Yes, you can see the damage scale up as you add more area, range only really starts ramping up once you unlock the upgrade for it.

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

I have made spinal mount ships before and they work pretty well. It's a good idea to cover them in bulkheads. Also other mods as you unlock them.

USMC_Karl
Nov 17, 2003

SUPPORTER OF THE REINSTATED LAWFUL HAWAIIAN GOVERNMENT. HAOLES GET OFF DA `AINA.
Awesome, thanks for the feedback, folks.

I just tootled around in game for an hour or so and got my rear end handed to me. Looks like I'm going to have to totally re-learn how to play these games.

I know it's all been said before, but I gotta say that I'm having fun with the whole system. Resources, diplomacy, everything is pretty fun and streamlined. I'd say this is a nice middle ground between the no micro of SotS and the insane micro of more traditional 4xs like galciv. I am sure I'll have more questions as time goes by.

I know it's being worked on but, man that research screen is hard to understand :(

JonBolds
Feb 6, 2015


Gonna stream this in a bit, just after 3 eastern:
http://www.twitch.tv/escapistmagazine

:getin:

Firgof
Dec 27, 2009

The Librarian is pure.
Former Star Ruler 2 Dev.
Sweet. I'm there!

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN

JonBolds posted:

Gonna stream this in a bit, just after 3 eastern:
http://www.twitch.tv/escapistmagazine

:getin:

You managed to stream right when I wasn't able to watch. :argh:

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

JonBolds posted:

Gonna stream this in a bit, just after 3 eastern:
http://www.twitch.tv/escapistmagazine

:getin:

Fun stream, I appreciate the depth you went into. Looking forward to seeing your review.

JonBolds
Feb 6, 2015


Wee Tinkle Wand posted:

Fun stream, I appreciate the depth you went into. Looking forward to seeing your review.

Thanks, cheers!

The game is super fun. I am kind of bad at it, but getting better.

There's a lot to manage at once, and that's where I get bogged down. I end up with lots of spare research, or with energy piling up, etc.

Anyone have any tips for not doing that?

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN

JonBolds posted:

Thanks, cheers!

The game is super fun. I am kind of bad at it, but getting better.

There's a lot to manage at once, and that's where I get bogged down. I end up with lots of spare research, or with energy piling up, etc.

Anyone have any tips for not doing that?

Plan a research goal, like ringworlds, and shotgun towards it. Spend every last dime of research you get.

JonBolds
Feb 6, 2015


Deadmeat5150 posted:

Plan a research goal, like ringworlds, and shotgun towards it. Spend every last dime of research you get.

This is very good advice! I decided last night that I'd make star forges, and by george, I did it.

I've found a very important thign while learning this game is to make sure not to neglect your infrastructure. It's easy to forget not to build megacities, etc. on your planets because they don't show up on the map, but if you're going for a centralized economy of any kind it's very important. Your top-tier planets need a ton of population to really make use of all the pressure you're feeding thing.

Also discovered you can funnel labor from a planet in one system to a shipyard in another. This changes everything for me. Have a shipyard with nearing 100 labor now. Instantly builds super-battleships. So fun.

Firgof
Dec 27, 2009

The Librarian is pure.
Former Star Ruler 2 Dev.
Lucas finally gave in to my demands and now there's a civilian trade activity slider! :holy:

I'm fresh off a game with 1000% civilian trade activity. "Bustling" describes how it felt pretty succinctly.



Also makes raiding enemy supply lines crazy-profitable.

Looking forward to sharing this update with y'all. Apologies that it's coming so slowly.

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN
Awesome! Now a way to profit more from civilian trade traffic. We need space coast guard to find contraband!

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


I'm interested, but I've been so burned by the years of garbage moo clones and devs who don't understand TBS flaws that I'm deeply gunshy.

Gonna watch some vids and stuff :ohdear:

Kinetica
Aug 16, 2011

victrix posted:

I'm interested, but I've been so burned by the years of garbage moo clones and devs who don't understand TBS flaws that I'm deeply gunshy.

Gonna watch some vids and stuff :ohdear:

It's definitely not MoO, so don't expect that. More similar to sins of a solar empire. Doesn't stop it from being really good in its own right though.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

victrix posted:

I'm interested, but I've been so burned by the years of garbage moo clones and devs who don't understand TBS flaws that I'm deeply gunshy.

Gonna watch some vids and stuff :ohdear:

It's a unique game, and not really directly comparable to anything else, but it's definitely not flawed or broken the way that so many 4x releases are these days.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Bremen posted:

It's a unique game, and not really directly comparable to anything else, but it's definitely not flawed or broken the way that so many 4x releases are these days.

AI War is about the only space 4x/rts/tbs/strategy/whatever game I've really appreciated in the last few years, so different is good.

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Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

Let me try to think of some criticism.

The weakest point is the research screen but that is getting overhauled soon. It's not broken or unusable, just confusing at first.

The AI gets confused if you play with them on The Expanse map but that's kind of an alternate game mode and in my opinion is more fun to play it solo as a relaxing mode or multiplayer vs your friends than with AI so it's not a major bug in my opinion.

Other than that... uhh... Star Children can't live on ringworlds! More of a minor gameplay niggle, that.

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