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Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'


jerkcity is good

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Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."
just adding the needed polish for Build



add rotating cube effect to animation live tiles that doesn't resemble anything else in the OS: CHECK

AtomD
May 3, 2009

Fun Shoe
oh yeah build tommorow.
can't wait for joe belfiore to make awkward jokes

joeyb's got the stage presence of a high school kid doing a presentation on building and caring for ant farms

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



is joanna going and if so what is the over/under on how many minutes it takes for someone to direct a comment at her

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

triple sulk posted:

is joanna going and if so what is the over/under on how many minutes it takes for someone to direct a comment at her
was this comment directed at joanna

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

triple sulk posted:

is joanna going

i hope so :allears:

triple sulk posted:

what is the over/under on how many minutes it takes for someone to direct a comment at her

:(

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Happy_Misanthrope posted:

just adding the needed polish for Build



add rotating cube effect to animation live tiles that doesn't resemble anything else in the OS: CHECK

no seriously, ask me anything!

(also the microphone icon changes)

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
wel,, everything changes, really.

the circle disappears, the text and the microphone poo poo left and up

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




also that yellow spotlight isn't centered relative to the start logo or mouse cursor

and the search box overlaps it but only when it turns white

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

univbee posted:

also that yellow spotlight isn't centered relative to the start logo or mouse cursor

and the search box overlaps it but only when it turns white

that's from some screen recording software, i think. not ms's fault

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

why are live tiles cubes now

did they add a third dimension to their ~flat design~ for the benefit of a transition animation

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
they already added virtual desktops from linux, why not add compiz as well

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Wheany posted:

they already added virtual desktops from linux, why not add compiss as well

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge

Wheany posted:

they already added virtual desktops from linux, why not add compiz as well
can't wait for the wobbly windows

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Wheany posted:

(also the microphone icon changes)

lmao

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Wheany posted:

wel,, everything changes, really.

the circle disappears, the text and the microphone poo poo left and up

the circle is cortana, i guess thats ok to get rid of once you click on it

but that microphone is lol

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Beeftweeter posted:

the circle is cortana, i guess thats ok to get rid of once you click on it

not really, and it's also not really good to move the text

the insertion point should be to the right of the circle, and the text should stay in place

quote:

but that microphone is lol

so very, and if they ship it, that art will be there always and forever, even if they get it fixed

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
well iirc the cortana hole comes up in the menu when you click on it, so thats where that goes. the text moving is par for the course with pretty much all of the metro explorer replacement things though

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Beeftweeter posted:

the cortana hole

mods

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

Wheany posted:

(also the microphone icon changes)

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
i really want someone to do a review titled Windows 10: The Hole Experience

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

Beeftweeter posted:

i really want someone to do a review titled Windows 10: The Hole Experience

please don't steal my porn fanfic name for a review

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
its year 2015 and there is still no custom gif emote support in ms enterprise chat software

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
I am excited for build. I hope they release vnext

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


I hope they release vs2015 and fix the wpf designer its unusable at the moment

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
poz my cortana hole

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
maybe they're using different fonts that have different microphone icons in the two states of the cortana bar, the letters don't line up perfectly.

but i think i'm done obsessing over that gif, get me a new one to obsess over.

MORE CURLY FRIES
Apr 8, 2004

[microphone changing intensifies]

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge

Maximum Leader posted:

its year 2015 and there is still no custom gif emote support in ms enterprise chat software
i want to bring back my "sending virus" custom emote gif from msn messenger

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

pointsofdata posted:

I hope they release vs2015 and fix the wpf designer its unusable at the moment

wpf is dead

pram
Jun 10, 2001
not in shaggers heart

SIGSEGV
Nov 4, 2010



which is good because it means each and every microsoft manager trying to expand their fief are mostly done messing with it

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011



What else am I meant to make my artisanal enterprise uis with???

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

pointsofdata posted:

What else am I meant to make my artisanal enterprise uis with???

html5

er

sharepoint?

no no azure!

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored




"cortholio please search 'tp for my bing hole'"

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Virion posted:

"cortholio please search 'tp for my bing hole'"

Raere
Dec 13, 2007

i want winfs

Scott Forstall
Aug 16, 2003

MMM THAT FAUX LEATHER
Windows + Android?

Microsoft will most likely announce this week that it will enable customers to run Android apps on their Windows 10 phones, tablets and PCs. The timing ostensibly makes sense, as the software giant’s Build conference, held this week in San Francisco, targets developers. But I wonder what message this change will send to developers and users, especially at a time when the company is also pushing a universal app strategy centered on Windows.

This is the opposite of what I wanted. Indeed, when Microsoft first started talking up the notion of universal apps that would run across its various platforms—Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox One, Internet of Things embedded devices, Surface Hub, and HoloLens—I opined that truly “universal” apps would in fact also run on competing devices as well. At the time, I figured this would mean Android primary, since that platform is open and Microsoft has already starting building support for Android into Visual Studio. (iOS is a harder nut to crack because Apple locks down the platform.)

Letting universal apps run on Android would open up the market to Windows-focused developers and let me leverage their existing skills and knowledge. It makes sense. And I still expect to see this happen, if not in the current generation of universal apps, then in the near future.

But letting Android apps run on Windows is another thing entirely. Indeed, it is the literal opposite of opening up universal apps to Android. And I question the logic of this strategy.

For users, the ability to run Android apps seems like a win. After all, the single biggest knock against Windows/Windows Phone is the lack of native apps. So a Windows Phone or Windows tablet user could fill in the gaps with that crucial handful of apps that simply don’t exist on the platform. Problem solved, right?

Not exactly. When it comes time to upgrade, why would anyone choose a Windows Phone at that point? (A problem exacerbated by Microsoft’s focus on low-end Windows Phone handsets.) Instead, most will simply choose Android, since they are now comfortable with those apps, and for the many advantages that Android has over Windows Phone generally. This is, in another words, only a short-term fix, one that will evolve into an inevitable exodus of users.

For developers who have invested a lifetime of learning and mastering Microsoft’s platforms, Android compatibility is a slap in the face. This sends the message that they have wasted their time and that it’s time to move on to a more successful platform since, after all, the apps you create for Android will now work on Android and Windows/Windows Phone. This completely usurps the presumed value of universal apps, which I assume Microsoft will also spend a lot of time promoting this week. It will not sit well with the developers who go to Build.

For Windows, the effect is similar. We’ve already sat through a Windows 8 generation of three years in which customers and developers ignored the latest (Metro/Modern) app platform in droves and the only popular Windows applications—besides Chrome and iTunes, which are in a way their own platforms too—were utilities that made Windows 8 look and work more like Windows 7. I was already on the fence about the efficacy of universal apps making Windows relevant again. But the ability to run Android apps simply means people will do so. On Windows. And that Windows becomes less relevant as a result. It’s just a launcher for Android apps and those few legacy desktop/Win32 applications some of us still need.

Sigh.

I started using, writing about, and advocating Windows 20 years ago because Windows was, at the time, personal computing. There was Windows and then there was almost nothing else. Today, of course, the personal computing market is split between popular mobile platforms like iOS and Android, web apps, and Windows. And Windows is the smallest platform of the three in many ways, or soon will be. The ability to run Android apps on Windows—this utter capitulation—is not a “win” or a positive development. It’s a defeat, an avoidable suicide. And it makes Windows even less important than it already was. To me. To you. To the world.

And that’s too bad. One of the things I still really like about Windows 10 is the renewed emphasis on desktop computing. This is my background, and my greatest love still when it comes to technology. I’m looking forward to reexamining PC-related topics this year that I’ve not spent time on in years. But it’s increasingly clear that the traditional PC market going forward will be much like the workstation market of 20 years ago: a niche market of users with high-end needs like content creation. I’m actually OK with that, I guess. But it’s less mainstream too. And this is going to be a difficult transition, one that, I think, will be sped up by this ability to run Android apps on Windows.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


AtomD posted:

joeyb's got the stage presence of a high school kid doing a presentation on building and caring for ant farms

...why Tokio Hotel is the best band

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brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
its kinda sad that microsoft doesn't have the brains to abandon its failed mobile platforms and regroup by making their desktop OS actually a decent desktop OS. they could offer a decent experience that way. businesses will happy run windows 7 until 2050 or whenever the gently caress

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