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Iron Tusk posted:Are there enough people playing to even bother having bots? I'd imagine having a bot play for you is more fun than actually playing the game
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SarutosZero posted:I'd imagine having a bot play for you is more fun than actually playing the game I'd play with you
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Apr 28, 2015 15:52
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BERGfu posted:I'd play with you wildstar probably has a dedicated E-RP community so maybe we can make this work.
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Apr 28, 2015 16:21
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SarutosZero posted:wildstar probably has a dedicated E-RP community so maybe we can make this work. excellent I knew this piece of poo poo game was good for something!
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Apr 28, 2015 16:46
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It's really easy for gold farmers to hack it so their characters just teleport endlessly around nodes, and Carbine can't figure out how to put a stop to that, so the bots are probably still operating just as a matter of course.
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Apr 28, 2015 16:48
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The type of idiot still playing Wildstar is no doubt obsessive enough to pay chinese gold farmers for wacky star funny money
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Apr 28, 2015 17:02
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Anoia posted:If you missed the "shut up, it's beta, it'll get better" phase of wildstar goons, check out the skyforge thread. It's about the same. Not really. Skyforge is full of people putting out objection's about the people managing that game, the combat of that game, the grind of that game, and the paid features of that game. It's basically the opposite of Wildstar.
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Apr 28, 2015 18:18
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Verranicus posted:I liked the old Alterac Valley. Something about the back and forth with all the NPC forces and side objectives along with the massive frontline battle made it the most fun I've ever had in WoW PVP. Shame they butchered it. It's poo poo and everyone hates it.
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Itzena posted:They basically brought it back with Ashran in Warlords of Draenor. Eh, ashran really isn't the same. There was always a massive queue for it and usually it was just one server stomping the poo poo out of the other one. Old AV was big enough that small gangs could actually make an impact, but ashran is just the one big fight. Is there even a point in doing the side stuff outside of needing dailies and picking up random items?
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Apr 28, 2015 18:58
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Omnicrom posted:Not really. Skyforge is full of people putting out objection's about the people managing that game, the combat of that game, the grind of that game, and the paid features of that game. It's basically the opposite of Wildstar. The skyforge thread is full of insane people trying to pretend they arent getting sucked into the most p2w game since the last time those developers released a mmorpg.
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Apr 28, 2015 21:02
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Normal Adult Human posted:The skyforge thread is full of insane people trying to pretend they arent getting sucked into the most p2w game since the last time those developers released a mmorpg. Skyforge's in game to real life currency exchange (a la GW2) pretty much relieved me of any p2w concerns that I had. I still understand the complaints, but this makes it all much easier to cope with.
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Apr 28, 2015 21:08
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You see, because I can trade normal currency for the p2w currency that means it's not p2w.
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Apr 28, 2015 21:48
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Belzac posted:You see, because I can trade normal currency for the p2w currency that means it's not p2w. That is not what I said.
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Apr 28, 2015 21:54
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*that means it's easier for me to sleep at night.
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Apr 28, 2015 21:56
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If it stops me from caring about it so I can just play and enjoy the game then it really doesn't matter to me.
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Apr 28, 2015 22:02
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xavier stop defending terrible monetisation (it will be terrbile no matter what you say the game's made by a russian studio ffs, we can't make non-poo poo mmos)
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RottenK posted:xavier stop defending terrible monetisation (it will be terrbile no matter what you say the game's made by a russian studio ffs, we can't make non-poo poo mmos) I don't like p2w anymore than most people here do. I am just bothered by it far less if an exchange like this exists. I also only plan to pve in that game so that probably has a lot to do with why that is enough for me.
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Belzac posted:You see, because I can trade normal currency for the p2w currency that means it's not p2w. Belzac'd
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Xavier434 posted:I don't like p2w anymore than most people here do. I am just bothered by it far less if an exchange like this exists. I also only plan to pve in that game so that probably has a lot to do with why that is enough for me. If it was p2w without an exchange, then how would you p2w in the first place? EDIT: Is it just that you can buy currency off other players/sell it to them?
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LordSaturn posted:If it was p2w without an exchange, then how would you p2w in the first place? I wonder if you guys realize you all have the same definition of P2W as reddit, 4chan, and GAMEFAQs posters. Just sayin'.
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Apr 28, 2015 23:01
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Normal Adult Human posted:The skyforge thread is full of insane people trying to pretend they arent getting sucked into the most p2w game since the last time those developers released a mmorpg. I'm not sure we're reading the same thread anymore.
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Apr 28, 2015 23:03
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Bauxite posted:I wonder if you guys realize you all have the same definition of P2W as reddit, 4chan, and GAMEFAQs posters. Which guys? Doesn't it stand for Pay 2 Win? I'm pretty confused here.
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Apr 28, 2015 23:05
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Belzac posted:Shut down thread till next Carbine blunder. So until tomorrow, then? 
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LordSaturn posted:Which guys? Doesn't it stand for Pay 2 Win? I'm pretty confused here. "People are getting though the game faster by paying rl money, this is literally p2w" If you're okay with experience boosters you should be okay with skyforge's monetization because they're basically the same thing.
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Apr 28, 2015 23:11
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I just want an MMO that lets me make a living RMTing.
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Apr 28, 2015 23:37
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yes as we all know games that want people to pay to speed up their progress are never made to be super tedious and grindy without paying
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Apr 28, 2015 23:39
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my.com's other games are designed to milk money out of people via in game shops, with the games themselves being incredibly tedious if you don't buy in. I don't see Skyforge being any different. The fact they've yet to reveal classes when it's already beta gives me flashbacks to WAR, too.
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just checked the subreddit, apparently there have only been like two guilds that have cleared datascape, despite it being out for nearly a year even then, less than like 30 guilds have successfully cleared GA, which requires half the people and is way smaller
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Thumbtacks posted:just checked the subreddit, apparently there have only been like two guilds that have cleared datascape, despite it being out for nearly a year this is a good thing though?? glad to see we're back to the good days of being a raider actually meaning something
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the problem is they really wanted the game to appeal to hardcore raiders and then made the endgame so absurd that like .1% of the population has actually done it (or at this point like 10% of the population, depends on their sub numbers i guess)
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LordSaturn posted:If it was p2w without an exchange, then how would you p2w in the first place? No, it is like GW2's gold to gem exchange. It does not involve buying/selling between players. Basically you open an interface and you enter in the amount of cash shop currency that you want and the exchange tells you how much in game currency it will cost you to get it. The opposite exists as well. You can enter the amount of in game currency you want and the exchange will tell you how much cash shop currency it will take to get it. However, the prices are not fixed because it is an exchange. They fluctuate based on how much of each type of currency people are exchanging.
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RottenK posted:yes as we all know games that want people to pay to speed up their progress are never made to be super tedious and grindy without paying And that makes it a lovely game, not a p2w game.
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Anoia posted:The fact they've yet to reveal classes when it's already beta gives me flashbacks to WAR, too. Just look at info for the Russian version if you want to know all the classes, I guess? The way the betas and marketing are being done for the NA/EU version is pretty dumb, though, which is part of that problem. The current beta is one or two major patches behind the Russian open beta Basic version differences It's at a point where people who know about the differences have stopped playing the English beta for now.
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So apparently WildStar went Free To Play or something? Didn't they very vehemently say that WildStar was TOO GOOD and would DIE before that happened or did the people who said it get kicked out by now? 
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If people are willing to pay real money to avoid your basic gameplay yeah that is a good indicator your basic gameplay is really lovely
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Anatharon posted:So apparently WildStar went Free To Play or something? Didn't they very vehemently say that WildStar was TOO GOOD and would DIE before that happened or did the people who said it get kicked out by now? It isn't F2P yet, but every indication says they're gearing up for a transition.
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Thumbtacks posted:the problem is they really wanted the game to appeal to hardcore raiders and then made the endgame so absurd that like .1% of the population has actually done it (or at this point like 10% of the population, depends on their sub numbers i guess) Wouldn't a higher percentage of the population have cleared it if they're all hardcore raiders?
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Unguided posted:Wouldn't a higher percentage of the population have cleared it if they're all hardcore raiders? You'd think but they apparently had tons of hilariously low RNG because that's how it was done back then.
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Anatharon posted:You'd think but they apparently had tons of hilariously low RNG because that's how it was done back then. They did the same thing with certain world drops, though I don't know if it was intentional to make a key spellslinger dps amp have something like a .0001% chance to drop ever. I saw one in all my time playing, on auction for a ton of money. Yes I'm still bitter. Meanwhile you'd be buried in the same 4 warrior amps before you hit level 10.
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