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Von Sloneker
Jul 6, 2009

as if all this was something more
than another footnote on a postcard from nowhere,
another chapter in the handbook for exercises in futility
We comfort ourselves with Steven Crowder's obscurity but either yesterday or the day before I saw Jim Norton respond to a Crowder tweet asking him to be on his show with something like, "love to, man; anytime." I'm hoping Norton was being polite and had no idea who he was.

Also, Steven Crowder has a "show"?

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Von Sloneker posted:

We comfort ourselves with Steven Crowder's obscurity but either yesterday or the day before I saw Jim Norton respond to a Crowder tweet asking him to be on his show with something like, "love to, man; anytime." I'm hoping Norton was being polite and had no idea who he was.

Also, Steven Crowder has a "show"?

A Youtube show.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump
Well Steven Crowder finally showed up on my facebook feed. No more going on facebook until Boston is over

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Good Citizen posted:

Well Steven Crowder finally showed up on my facebook feed. No more going on facebook until Boston is over

Yeah, one of my friends linked a Crowder rant about Baltimore, saying it 'Spoke to him personally'

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
kind of tangentially related to the real topic of this thread:


quote:

Black Baltimore Councilman Blasts White CNN Host: 'Just Call Them Ni**ers' (VIDEO

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

CaptainCarrot posted:

That's true, we don't. Because the police won't loving tell us how he somehow was fine going into the car and wound up at the hospital with his spine broken.

I haven't seen this posted on any credible source but the right-wing blogosphere buzz is that Freddy Gray was recently discharged from the hospital following major neck surgery and he was defying doctor's orders by being out in public because people with neck surgery like that can just break their necks sitting in the hospital bed doing nothing, so really it was his fault.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

TheQat posted:

kind of tangentially related to the real topic of this thread:

Why does CNN even exist anymore.

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

Nonsense posted:

I mean wasn't it pretty clear enough the Mayor was loving angry with rioters and the criminality being committed when she just went ahead and referred to them as "thugs" the same as every internet not-racist does? There really isn't any room to question the Mayor's actions because they fell within the scope of what the United States is about free, peaceful protest, and angry protest, with the line being drawn at riots/violence. Most of the country got a hate boner for Missouri, & Ferguson officials because they attempted to form the gestapo in America. The Mayor expressed her frustration with the looting and property destruction, and now imbeciles, like the Governor think this is a great way to catapult themselves into the national scene. Just like Jim Webb!

Actual list of things people are mad at the mayor for right now:
- not requesting a state of emergency be declared on Saturday when the most significant thing happening was some drunk idiots starting poo poo outside the baseball stadium
- telling rioters they had her permission to start breaking stuff and looting (which as mentioned before is an extremely willfully dense reading of the statement)
- paying too much attention to managing the situation to throw the media a bone and give them an update
- paying too much attention to talking to the media to do her job managing the situation
- showing up overdressed for a news conference
- showing up underdressed for a different news conference

Note that most of the high-profile things she's currently known for are boondoggles like the ill-fated grand prix so many people are already predisposed to thinking she's a bad manager, but still.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Why does CNN even exist anymore.

Airports, mostly

E: I guess that's more the answer to 'how' actually

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Why does CNN even exist anymore.

Generates enough hatebuzz from its awful reporting to drive enough traffic to pay the bills.

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

Actual list of things people are mad at the mayor for right now:
- not requesting a state of emergency be declared on Saturday when the most significant thing happening was some drunk idiots starting poo poo outside the baseball stadium
- telling rioters they had her permission to start breaking stuff and looting (which as mentioned before is an extremely willfully dense reading of the statement)
- paying too much attention to managing the situation to throw the media a bone and give them an update
- paying too much attention to talking to the media to do her job managing the situation
- showing up overdressed for a news conference
- showing up underdressed for a different news conference

Note that most of the high-profile things she's currently known for are boondoggles like the ill-fated grand prix so many people are already predisposed to thinking she's a bad manager, but still.

Let's not forget the biggest thing she's being silently criticized for


- treating poor black people like people.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012



Are things this hosed up?

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here

FuzzySkinner posted:



Are things this hosed up?

Wait



what?

e: He has to have a slide after that one that says "But hoodlum thug meme-imps need to learn their place and not get uppity" right?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

FuzzySkinner posted:



Are things this hosed up?

Somethings fishy. Is this a comedy routine? Did Fox and CNN swap target audiences?

Job Truniht
Nov 7, 2012

MY POSTS ARE REAL RETARDED, SIR

FuzzySkinner posted:



Are things this hosed up?

Did I just stumble into another universe?

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



I don't get it. He's saying brutality from police officers shouldn't be tolerated? That's a very reasonable opinion. Unless by "hosed up" you mean O'Reilly of all people is agreeing with it.

edit: Or more likely one of his writers messed up and misused the phrase "on the part of" when he meant "towards"

18 Character Limit
Apr 6, 2007

Screw you, Abed;
I can fix this!
Nap Ghost

FuzzySkinner posted:



Are things this hosed up?

We've finally gone so far right that it looped around.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Everyone on this forum is jaded and cynical enough that when it appears the majority opinion in the US has shifted to "hey maybe the police actually ARE really hosed up thugs?" nobody believes it and is convinced there is something horrible lurking around still

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here

icantfindaname posted:

Everyone on this forum is jaded and cynical

yes

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
I'm still pretty sure that's a photoshop.


**
THE REAL IMAGE HAS BEEN FOUND, EVERYONE CAN RELAX NOW

Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Apr 29, 2015

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011
O'Reilly might have turned a corner after the grand jury failed to indict Eric Garner's killer. He was genuinely dismayed by the decision.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

O'Reilly occasionally says reasonable things, but he always balances it out with vile poo poo at some point.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


What did he say before and after that image though?

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Gravel Gravy posted:

It's a fun website for cat pictures and stuff but drat is it god awful on social issues.
Imgur can never get enough mockery for how awful it is for social issue discussion. Partly due to having comments limited to something like 120 characters, partly due to being populated with preteen redditors and other rejects from moderated forums. I just clicked over and immediately saw the top two posts were about how THE MEDIA :qq: is making cops look bad.

edit: haha there's also a frontpage post that's just screenshots of that widely-mocked south park episode from like 10 years ago where they talk about how hate crime laws are dumb because prejudice doesnt exist. the truth is in the middle sheeple :rolleyes:

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

I am still amazed people use Imgur for more than hosting.

Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse

VideoTapir posted:

I think it was the crazy forwards thread during robot pharmacy chat last week some pharmacist types were talking about CVS not doing so well. Might be that the store wasn't going to make it anyway.

CVS upper management can be pretty stupid, when my girlfriend's store didn't exceed previous earnings (note, they were still profitable, just not increasing profits by x% or more) they would get approved part time hours slashed, meaning they were pressured to do better with less help, which is simply not possible when one of the obstacles to doing better is having the man hours to fill scripts.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
My understanding is that it is savvier than you think. They need to clear out a lot of pharmacists and pharm techs because there is a glut of them currently and there keep being more. Why keep old people on at the old pay rate when you can hire new ones (or better still rehire experienced ones!) at the much cheaper new rate? Best way to clear out the old ones is to set create an impossible sales cycle. It's the same thing that No Child Left Behind is doing to the Public School system.

Consumers don't notice a huge difference. If they have enough time to wait, their time is cheap. If they want to pick it up later, they come in the next day and it is ready to go.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Off topic question, but has any conservative offered a reasonable defense of why it's okay to ignore all the poo poo that Jesus said about helping the poor, but that it's absolutely mandatory to listen to that one line from Leviticus about the gays? I've listened to tons of debates (admittedly, mostly involving right-wing loudmouth radio hosts, and not so much theologians) about this sort of thing, but the conservatives either never directly answer the questions, or they distract with other poo poo from the Bible.

Xibanya
Sep 17, 2012




Clever Betty
Compartmentalization and/or belief they are among God's elect.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Rorus Raz posted:

I am still amazed people use Imgur for more than hosting.
They're having their very own :gooncamp: sometime soon. It's amazing how seriously some of them take an offshoot image hosting site.

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011

Mr Interweb posted:

Off topic question, but has any conservative offered a reasonable defense of why it's okay to ignore all the poo poo that Jesus said about helping the poor, but that it's absolutely mandatory to listen to that one line from Leviticus about the gays? I've listened to tons of debates (admittedly, mostly involving right-wing loudmouth radio hosts, and not so much theologians) about this sort of thing, but the conservatives either never directly answer the questions, or they distract with other poo poo from the Bible.

Charity is voluntary. Paying taxes is involuntary. That's the extent of their argument.

Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Apr 29, 2015

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Mr Interweb posted:

Off topic question, but has any conservative offered a reasonable defense of why it's okay to ignore all the poo poo that Jesus said about helping the poor, but that it's absolutely mandatory to listen to that one line from Leviticus about the gays? I've listened to tons of debates (admittedly, mostly involving right-wing loudmouth radio hosts, and not so much theologians) about this sort of thing, but the conservatives either never directly answer the questions, or they distract with other poo poo from the Bible.

The best way to help The Poor is to slash taxes and regulations on The Rich so that the poor will not be morally compromised by welfare-state largesse

what the bible says is actually all about Dignity, you see

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Typical Pubbie posted:

O'Reilly might have turned a corner after the grand jury failed to indict Eric Garner's killer. He was genuinely dismayed by the decision.

Even Michael Savage called the Eric Garner situation a "police execution" in between calling Obama a fag loving socialist dictator who wants to destroy America.

If there were less dumbfucks who think patriotism is sucking authoritarian dick as hard as possible then police brutality might actually be the best thing we have to unite the working class.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Clinton Foundation Failed to Disclose 1,100 Foreign Donations

quote:

“We’re not trying to hide anything,” he says. There are in fact 1,100 undisclosed donors to the Clinton Foundation, Giustra says, most of them non-U.S. residents who donated to CGEP. “All of the money that was raised by CGEP flowed through to the Clinton Foundation—every penny—and went to the [charitable] initiatives we identified,” he says.

“We’re not trying to hide anything.”

Frank Giustra
The reason this is a politically explosive revelation is because the Clinton Foundation promised to disclose its donors as a condition of Hillary Clinton becoming secretary of state. Shortly after Barack Obama was elected president in 2008, the Clinton Foundation signed a “memorandum of understanding” with the Obama White House agreeing to reveal its contributors every year. The agreement stipulates that the “Clinton Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative” (as the charity was then known) is part of the Clinton Foundation and must follow “the same protocols.”

:canada:

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Why does CNN even exist anymore.
Dentists' waiting rooms.

Rorus Raz posted:

I am still amazed people use Imgur for more than hosting.

Bathroom entertainment.

Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse

Shbobdb posted:

My understanding is that it is savvier than you think. They need to clear out a lot of pharmacists and pharm techs because there is a glut of them currently and there keep being more. Why keep old people on at the old pay rate when you can hire new ones (or better still rehire experienced ones!) at the much cheaper new rate? Best way to clear out the old ones is to set create an impossible sales cycle. It's the same thing that No Child Left Behind is doing to the Public School system.

Was absolutely not the case at my gf's store. Everyone was young there. Made me feel old and I haven't hit 40 yet.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

The official position is that welfare doesn't actually help poor people, it goes to lazy people who would be just fine on their own but choose instead to stay at home and have the government pay for everything. This is kind of an extension of the idea that there are no true poor people.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Mr Interweb posted:

Off topic question, but has any conservative offered a reasonable defense of why it's okay to ignore all the poo poo that Jesus said about helping the poor, but that it's absolutely mandatory to listen to that one line from Leviticus about the gays? I've listened to tons of debates (admittedly, mostly involving right-wing loudmouth radio hosts, and not so much theologians) about this sort of thing, but the conservatives either never directly answer the questions, or they distract with other poo poo from the Bible.

I think it's the general idea that the charity bits only count if the regressive bits do too. They're not going to play along with the liberal interpretation that you can just drop the parts you don't like, they don't see all charity and no bigotry as authentically Christian

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Apr 29, 2015

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Tender Bender posted:

The official position is that welfare doesn't actually help poor people, it goes to lazy people who would be just fine on their own but choose instead to stay at home and have the government pay for everything. This is kind of an extension of the idea that there are no true poor people.



I had to intervene in a almost fight between 2 co-workers where a upper-middle class white girl start talking about how welfare was a complete failure and a first gen college grad girl started getting pissed because welfare was the only thing keeping her grandmother alive and the white girl kept trying to say that it didn't matter because so much money was wasted.

Basically, if some fraction of a system is exploited, they believe that its better that the rest suffer from its absence then any tax payer money be "wasted". Meanwhile, Boeing lands a 200 billion dollar contract to make lovely parts for a failure of a plane and its absolutely vital because "SUPPORT ARE TROOPS!"

pentyne fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Apr 29, 2015

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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


The standard conservative argumentation about the poor has more to do with the pathological hatred of anything to do with government than anything else, I think. At least in the technical/logical basis of the argumentation. They don't technically deny outright the plight of the poor, though most of them don't actually give a poo poo, but a hypothetical government policy is always, always worse than whatever conditions exist in reality, a position that is just taken a priori and is the core of all right-libertarian-tinted thought

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Apr 29, 2015

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