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Barnyard Protein posted:i don't know if i can go on its not actually used a lot
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reads as the fist function
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Apr 29, 2015 16:17
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Bloody posted:reads as the fist function
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Apr 29, 2015 16:33
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gonadic io posted:he's doing panic revision, the exam's probably tomorrow and he hasn't slept in 2 days. he probably stared blankly at that code for like 30 mins in a fatigued state before giving up and posting here yaeh despite the sometimes rediculous questions, the thread isnt my first port of call. i was studying last night for two exams i had today and neither of them is even the haskell one, thats next week I got to write about the merits of dynamicly typed message systems vs statically typed messages in exam yesterday so that was cool
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Apr 29, 2015 17:11
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the best part of statically typed distribution is that cloud Haskell requires you to boot a second independent cluster every time you want to upgrade one of the nodes because they can't cope with stuff otherwise.
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Apr 29, 2015 17:34
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MononcQc posted:the best part of statically typed distribution is that cloud Haskell requires you to boot a second independent cluster every time you want to upgrade one of the nodes because they can't cope with stuff otherwise. the opposite of this is what I wrote about Erlang and being able to gradually upgrade a system by letting through the new messages via some proxy process the term "hot swap" was sadly not used however
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As a Millennial I posted:hi pl thread should i learn rust Rust seems pretty good so far, and I could definitely see it being used for serious stuff. You should learn it!
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Apr 29, 2015 17:46
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does rust have a proper 1.0 release yet?
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Apr 29, 2015 17:50
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Barnyard Protein posted:'car' is good if they wanted a three letter name that didn't make sense "car" and "cdr" are "head" and "tail" now dont use them either
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Apr 29, 2015 18:02
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Valeyard posted:does rust have a proper 1.0 release yet? it's on alpha 3 and 1.0 is in like two weeks
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Apr 29, 2015 18:03
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triple sulk posted:it's on alpha 3 and 1.0 is in like two weeks where did beta go?
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Apr 29, 2015 18:04
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Awia posted:where did beta go? I think triple sulk meant to say beta 3. Rust is currently in the middle of a six-week beta period, and I believe they are on the third revision of that beta. 1.0 will be released May 15th.
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Apr 29, 2015 18:08
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does rust still redefine half the language every release or
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Apr 29, 2015 18:29
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triple sulk posted:it's on alpha 3 and 1.0 is in like two weeks Luigi Thirty posted:does rust still redefine half the language every release or my friends final year project, which wrapped up just last month, was to implement a graph library in rust with a bunch of traversal algorithms he would routinely get owned by changes to the language despite there being a 1.0 release candidiate for a big chunk of the time lol
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Apr 29, 2015 18:33
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Bloody posted:i always think functional languages should be really good for machine learning but i have absolutely no reason to think that and no evidence to support such a thought because lisp came out of the MIT AI Lab and was used for that kind of thing there and gets kind of lumped in with functional languages because it can be used in a functional style
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Apr 29, 2015 18:49
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:that sentence is stupid tho because pattern matching means you're rarely using fst directly anyway I always liked Logo's "first" and "butfirst"
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Apr 29, 2015 18:51
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Luigi Thirty posted:does rust still redefine half the language every release or no, that's the point of the beta and subsequent 1.0
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Apr 29, 2015 19:03
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YOSPOS how do i test my unit
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Apr 29, 2015 19:05
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it is a large python
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Apr 29, 2015 19:05
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Apr 29, 2015 19:06
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:that sentence is stupid tho because pattern matching means you're rarely using fst directly anyway this, and also user-definable reader macros
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Apr 29, 2015 19:07
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ShadowHawk posted:YOSPOS how do i test my unit you don't. just ship it
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Apr 29, 2015 19:09
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you have come to a world called (car (extends vehicle))
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Apr 29, 2015 19:12
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Dessert Rose posted:you have come to a world called (car (extends vehicle))
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Apr 29, 2015 19:13
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eschaton posted:I always liked Logo's "first" and "butfirst" fst and butfst
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Apr 29, 2015 19:30
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:fst and butfst 
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Apr 29, 2015 19:31
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cdadddddddadr
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Apr 29, 2015 19:33
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Dessert Rose posted:you have come to a world called (car (extends vehicle))
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Apr 29, 2015 19:39
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Dessert Rose posted:you have come to a world called (car (extends vehicle)) *whipcrack*
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Apr 29, 2015 19:49
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a world full of (cons (tant aggravation))
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Apr 29, 2015 20:12
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VikingofRock posted:Rust seems pretty good so far, and I could definitely see it being used for serious stuff. You should learn it! I'm currently writing an RRT as an exercise in learning rust, and it's bittersweet. I find the language-level ideas really interesting and powerful, but like 90% of the std library is flagged "unstable" and using unstable features automatically causes compiler errors in the beta. This is ridiculous when stuff like weak pointers and randomly sampling doubles within a range are flagged as "unstable features". Also annoying is that rust only defines a partial order on floats, but super useful functions like min_by require a total order for absolutely no reason, which means I have to use naked for loops when working with floats. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the essence of the language feels sound, but even for a beta it's still so rough around the edges on very typical, simple use cases.
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giogadi posted:I'm currently writing an RRT as an exercise in learning rust, and it's bittersweet. I find the language-level ideas really interesting and powerful, but like 90% of the std library is flagged "unstable" and using unstable features automatically causes compiler errors in the beta. This is ridiculous when stuff like weak pointers and randomly sampling doubles within a range are flagged as "unstable features". Also annoying is that rust only defines a partial order on floats, but super useful functions like min_by require a total order for absolutely no reason, which means I have to use naked for loops when working with floats.  w/r/t the unstable standard library--that decision sucked, but since the whole STL is going to be stable by May 15th it shouldn't be a problem for too long. As for the floats thing, floats are only partially ordered so it makes sense to keep them that way. It looks like stuff like min_by might get changed to accommodate this in the near future. See this RFC.
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VikingofRock posted:
Oh they're planning to stabilize the entire STL by May? Thank goodness for that. Yeah, I understand the reasoning for the partial ordering and had even seen that RFC, I'm just annoyed that they're bikeshedding min_by so much that it looks like a fix won't make 1.0.
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DimpledChad posted:(taint aggravation)
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Apr 29, 2015 21:02
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MononcQc posted:the best part of statically typed distribution is that cloud Haskell requires you to boot a second independent cluster every time you want to upgrade one of the nodes because they can't cope with stuff otherwise. idk if it's a big deal can u not just swapover your load balancers and poo poo just works? it's how azure's VIP swap thing works. the fear i have w/ incremental upgrades is that u now have to test ur code in a mixed environment which just is not fun cloud haskell is not so great but the semantics are pretty cool
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Apr 29, 2015 21:45
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Dessert Rose posted:you have come to a world called (car (extends vehicle)) mods asap
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Apr 29, 2015 21:51
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Malcolm XML posted:idk if it's a big deal can u not just swapover your load balancers and poo poo just works? it's how azure's VIP swap thing works. Because if you have something like 50 servers in clusters and poo poo it means you now need a total of 100 just to deploy new software without risking losing capacity or uptime.
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OK I'm trying to get spun up on java / spring -How do I make intellij tolerable for a vim / emacs dev - how do I breakpoint / debugger most effectively? Java 8 fwiw
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Apr 29, 2015 23:40
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use eclipse instead. learn to use a real editor instead of vim/eclipse. put a breakpoint and then click debug.
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Is there like a nice list of Java best practices I can cargo cult until I understand the language? Mainly like : - how to do exception handling best in java - Java antipatterns - gotchas - weird gc related stuff
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