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Whoa this Jade Helm thing is more serious than I thought! Also AC/DC stands for Anti-Christ/Devil Children and KISS stands for Knights In Satan's Service.
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Doctor Butts posted:#HASHTAG #THE #gently caress #OUT #OF #EVERY #WORD #IN #A #SENTENCE
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With all the paranoia and alerts going out, you know exactly what's going to happen. Absolutely nothing, because these people are all talk and no bite. You know if we were ever invaded by anyone they would use their guns to make sure that gently caress YOU GOT MINE will be firmly entrenched in their forest bunkers and keeping undesirables away from their food/water. Defending against any sort of army is just a fantasy 
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Apr 29, 2015 18:39
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zoux posted:I cannot believe how important loving gun rights are to so many people. Like I'd understand it if it was one of several major issues but just the single issue mindset focused on the second amendment and tying every other political issue back into that one. Gay marriage has nothing to do with gun rights! Well, when you're white and well off enough to spend thousands of dollars on firearms and accessories, you need something to be mad about if you don't give a poo poo about other people's suffering.
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VikingofRock posted:This is historically a pretty common view among leftists, too. See for example: Yes, it's a pretty common view among actual and pretend ("keeping the powder dry") revolutionaries.
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Apr 29, 2015 18:45
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I have consistently wondered what exactly a right-wing militia would do against modern military hardware if they actually were to rebel against the government. Like, great that they often have military experience and loads of small arms, but if the government really wanted to kill you, how are you going to stop a drone or jet from blowing you up?
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my bony fealty posted:I have consistently wondered what exactly a right-wing militia would do against modern military hardware if they actually were to rebel against the government. Like, great that they often have military experience and loads of small arms, but if the government really wanted to kill you, how are you going to stop a drone or jet from blowing you up? My friend have you seen Red Dawn? I think their power fantasies heavily involve a significant portion of the US military refusing to go against their constitutional oaths and defecting to the rebellion..
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my bony fealty posted:I have consistently wondered what exactly a right-wing militia would do against modern military hardware if they actually were to rebel against the government. Like, great that they often have military experience and loads of small arms, but if the government really wanted to kill you, how are you going to stop a drone or jet from blowing you up? Hide behind the human shields the Bundy gang were happily boasting about using on TV.
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In not-gun news, in 5-4 decision on campaign finance SCROTUS held... That judicial candidates can't directly solicit campaign contributions! http://www.scotusblog.com/2015/04/opinion-analysis-a-modest-restraint-on-campaign-fund-raising/#more-227695 The opinion was authored by Justice Roberts, joined by Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan. Scalia wrote a dissenting opinion with Thomas joining, and Alito and Kennedy each dissented separately.
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The House is currently voting on a resolution that allows it to pretend that a budget has been passed so that it can bring up appropriations bills.
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Jagchosis posted:In not-gun news, in 5-4 decision on campaign finance SCROTUS held...
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my bony fealty posted:I have consistently wondered what exactly a right-wing militia would do against modern military hardware if they actually were to rebel against the government. Like, great that they often have military experience and loads of small arms, but if the government really wanted to kill you, how are you going to stop a drone or jet from blowing you up? They assume a large part of the US military will side with them. That's honestly what I hear from them the most. They talk about how Christian and right wing the military is and how they swear an oath to defend the constitution against all threats, including domestic...which clearly means Obama.
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Joementum posted:The House is currently voting on a resolution that allows it to pretend that a budget has been passed so that it can bring up appropriations bills. I can't stop laughing at this.
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Brannock posted:Hmm yes this sounds like an entirely fair appraisal of the situation and not at all a sneering dismissal of a strawman. Sounds like you're reading a bit too much into that post, buddy.
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Trabisnikof posted:They assume a large part of the US military will side with them. That's honestly what I hear from them the most. They talk about how Christian and right wing the military is and how they swear an oath to defend the constitution against all threats, including domestic...which clearly means Obama. Well, the last time there was a rebellion beyond one dude or a family or some American Indians, the military did end up split. The whole thing is still obviously problematic but if a no poo poo civil war kicked off, it's not like the military would be 100% undivided. But this is getting into sci fi gay black Hitler territory that belongs in a self-published fiction thread.
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zoux posted:My friend have you seen Red Dawn? When soldiers refuse to fire on their own people the rebellion is over and those who gave the order are on private aircraft looking for a friendly country to land in. If the second amendment ever progresses to the fantasy end point of masses of citizens taking aim and pulling the trigger the country is beyond saving.
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1stGear posted:I'm pretty sure the people who are single-issue about the 2nd Amendment don't see it as a hobby. They literally think that any second ISIS will invade/FEMA will enact martial law/the Mexicans and Blacks will rise up in glorious RaHoWa and they need the guns for when that happens. Literally every 'gun' personality on youtube has "free comment" videos where they reveal themselves to be paranoid dorks who see anti-gun advertisements & 'thugs' EVERYWHERE!! Like doesn't anybody ever think of these things as just consumer products, like you don't see vitamix youtube people claiming there is a vast conspiracy against vitamix owners to sell them dull blades because of OBAMACARE RATIONING. Nonsense fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Apr 29, 2015 |
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mlmp08 posted:Well, the last time there was a rebellion beyond one dude or a family or some American Indians, the military did end up split. The whole thing is still obviously problematic but if a no poo poo civil war kicked off, it's not like the military would be 100% undivided. But this is getting into sci fi gay black Hitler territory that belongs in a self-published fiction thread. While technically true the military was effectively split several years before the CW started since Franklin Pierce appointed Jefferson Davis as his secretary of war and he used his time in office to move as much war material to the south as he could before things got kicked off.
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my bony fealty posted:I have consistently wondered what exactly a right-wing militia would do against modern military hardware if they actually were to rebel against the government. Like, great that they often have military experience and loads of small arms, but if the government really wanted to kill you, how are you going to stop a drone or jet from blowing you up? The full weight of the US military was not enough to stop an insurgency in Iraq, and it's a lot easier to hide in the Rockies or Appalachia than in the desert.
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Joementum posted:The House is currently voting on a resolution that allows it to pretend that a budget has been passed so that it can bring up appropriations bills.  And here I thought the weirdest thing of the week would be the Texas State Guard carefully monitoring federal military exercises to make sure they don't sneak martial law in.
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CommieGIR posted:These same people also think they have the tactical skills of a SWAT team or Special Forces. Its kind of funny and scary to see them do Militia drills, because they think they are just as good as actual trained response teams. The sad thing is they do have the tactical skill of a SWAT team, but only because so many SWAT teams are just Hicksville County population 50,000 getting some army surplus gear and a used armored van.
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SirKibbles posted:The people who think that their AR-15 is going to stop a government overthrow seem to not understand modern combat hint: get anti air guns. It's so dumb if you legit thought that the 2nd amendment was your last line of defense and you already thought the government was tyrannical why spend more on the military. Syrian rebels didn't seem to need them as well.
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JeffersonClay posted:The full weight of the US military was not enough to stop an insurgency in Iraq, and it's a lot easier to hide in the Rockies or Appalachia than in the desert. Appalachia will not let ""outsiders" in. Even then, if you put enough paranoid idiots in a small confined area for enough time, they will begin killing each other. Make them think that there are "infiltrators" and their numbers will diminish greatly.
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David Simon had a nice little piece that got put up on the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/08/david-simon-capitalism-marx-two-americas-wire?CMP=share_btn_fb
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JeffersonClay posted:The full weight of the US military was not enough to stop an insurgency in Iraq, and it's a lot easier to hide in the Rockies or Appalachia than in the desert. I think these situations have two major differences that should, for the most part, disqualify them from being compared.
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JeffersonClay posted:The full weight of the US military was not enough to stop an insurgency in Iraq, and it's a lot easier to hide in the Rockies or Appalachia than in the desert. Iraq and Afghanistan, deserts with absolutely nowhere to hide. 
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Relentlessboredomm posted:David Simon had a nice little piece that got put up on the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/08/david-simon-capitalism-marx-two-americas-wire?CMP=share_btn_fb Published: December 7th, 2013  Nothing will ever change or improve.
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JeffersonClay posted:The full weight of the US military was not enough to stop an insurgency in Iraq, and it's a lot easier to hide in the Rockies or Appalachia than in the desert. Maybe in gay black hitler, like in iraq, there will be completely unguarded army bases where the would be insurgents can make off with stockpiles of artillery shells to make IEDs.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:David Simon had a nice little piece that got put up on the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/08/david-simon-capitalism-marx-two-americas-wire?CMP=share_btn_fb
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SubponticatePoster posted:Why doesn't DNC hire him to write their platform? He says things that are true power doesn't like people who speak truth to power
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So when the black panthers starting standing around observing police arrests while heavily armed, was that actually effective? Like did police brutality (against non-panthers) actually go down in Oakland? I see balancing power against a militarized police force as a more """practical""" exercise of 2nd amendment rights than using AKs against the U.S. Military. And as far as I know, the police doesn't have fighter jets (please no one tell me I'm wrong there).
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VikingofRock posted:So when the black panthers starting standing around observing police arrests while heavily armed, was that actually effective? Like did police brutality (against non-panthers) actually go down in Oakland? I think the NRA started pushing Gun Control laws when that happened, ironically.
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CommieGIR posted:I think the NRA started pushing Gun Control laws when that happened, ironically. And Saint Ronald Reagan, the First of His Name.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Love that guy. Why doesn't DNC hire him to write their platform? He says things that are true, that resonate, that are easily understandable. Because the DNC is not a socialist party.
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CommieGIR posted:I think the NRA started pushing Gun Control laws when that happened, ironically. Yup.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Maybe in gay black hitler, like in iraq, there will be completely unguarded army bases where the would be insurgents can make off with stockpiles of artillery shells to make IEDs. There will certainly be completely unguarded farms where would be insurgents can make off with stockpiles of ammonium nitrate fertilizer.
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Rexicon1 posted:Because the DNC is not a socialist party.
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mlmp08 posted:Well, the last time there was a rebellion beyond one dude or a family or some American Indians, the military did end up split. The whole thing is still obviously problematic but if a no poo poo civil war kicked off, it's not like the military would be 100% undivided. But this is getting into sci fi gay black Hitler territory that belongs in a self-published fiction thread. Yeah, though applying it more broadly, when countries anywhere have armed rebellion, the military's ability to put it down depends largely on the social/ethnic breakdown of the military. A lot of places geared to cracking down effectively have militaries organized along ethnic lines, or at least by those most invested in the regime in power. The loyal forces get the good arms, the good training, and are the ones assigned to any trouble spots. Units conscripted from less loyal populations get put out in the middle of nowhere, or among a different faction that they won't mind cracking heads with. The common forum fantasy of tanks rolling over tea partiers would also require a whole lot of reinvention of the US military as part of its gay black hitler elements. Unzip and Attack posted:And Saint Ronald Reagan, the First of His Name. Which shouldn't be really surprising. Control of who owns what kinds of guns is traditionally a socially conservative stance in the US, it's just the modern rural/urban split has reversed that since Reagan's generation died off. Mind, the laws, proposals, and rhetoric haven't changed since the Jim Crow days, it's just that it ended up in the Democratic party line rather than Republican despite not being remotely leftist or progressive.
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