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Nessus posted:I hope only that Bernie is not going to try to go full Nader if (when) he does not win the primary. I have no opposition to pushing Hillary leftwards, of course, especially since she seems to be glancing that way already. Bernie's on-record lambasting Nader for the spoiler effect, hence bothering to run as a Democrat to begin with.
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Nessus posted:I hope only that Bernie is not going to try to go full Nader if (when) he does not win the primary. I have no opposition to pushing Hillary leftwards, of course, especially since she seems to be glancing that way already. Bernie doesn't seem to have that as his intention, and even if he does, it was only a bizarre close election and fluke that Nader ended up being such a spoiler. It could happen again, but I somehow doubt Bernie has the national appeal.
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Apr 30, 2015 10:06
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Bernie's campaign website is very Bernie.
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Apr 30, 2015 11:57
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What about the trillionaires, Bernie?
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whydirt posted:What about the trillionaires, Bernie? Low tax stays out of here sort of things
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JosefStalinator posted:Bernie doesn't seem to have that as his intention, and even if he does, it was only a bizarre close election and fluke that Nader ended up being such a spoiler.
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Apr 30, 2015 13:24
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Wow, I actually checked out reddit for some reason and they're going loving crazy over Sanders. Absolute chaos. Broke college kids saying they'll donate every penny they can, random bullshit. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
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Apr 30, 2015 13:40
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Sgt. Anime Pederast posted:I actually checked out reddit for some reason and It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. This sums up most every time I've looked at reddit, save really weird niche topics like some PhD in a hard science talking about said hard science.
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Apr 30, 2015 13:55
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DNC's sending out Sanders emails too. Good.
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Apr 30, 2015 14:05
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Former Vermont resident here, Sanders is the greatest.  I mean, he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell, and I know that there's gotta be some some backroom reason that he's running (reminder that Dean got appointed head of the DNC following the 2004 election) but poo poo, it's nice to have a candidate who's a true democrat for once. I'm considering volunteering for his campaign because why not? They'll only need me through the first primary anyway.
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Bobby Digital posted:
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lelandjs posted:Former Vermont resident here, Sanders is the greatest. Sanders appeals to the progressive left more than Hillary does. The two of them have a debate, she moves left on a position she was going to go left on anyway, base is turned out by Sanders, Sanders endorses Hillary, Hillary gets the base. Sanders gets a key appointment from the party in exchange and maybe a pet project of his gets through
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visceril posted:Sanders appeals to the progressive left more than Hillary does. The two of them have a debate, she moves left on a position she was going to go left on anyway, base is turned out by Sanders, Sanders endorses Hillary, Hillary gets the base. sanders pet project is full communism
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Sgt. Anime Pederast posted:Wow, I actually checked out reddit for some reason and they're going loving crazy over Sanders. Absolute chaos. Broke college kids saying they'll donate every penny they can, random bullshit. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Yea, the internet is setting Sanders up to be the lefts Ron Paul. Can't wait till the Sanders Blimp starts flying around.
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lamentable dustman posted:Yea, the internet is setting Sanders up to be the lefts Ron Paul. Can't wait till the Sanders Blimp starts flying around. Someone inception Reddit to setup a cryptocurrency for Sanders, they can call it a Berncoin. (BECAUSE YOU'LL BE BURNING YOUR MONEY GET IT) [Edit: he's totally the left's Ron Paul and that's why he's the greatest] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 30, 2015 14:51
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My brother told me there was some otaku (power level unsurpressed) haranguing some guy working for a hedge fund at his university career fair bout "Bernard Sanders" It has begun E: for some reason calling him "Bernard" makes me think this is some crazy performance piece by Zak Galifinakis or some poo poo. It's just weird who the gently caress calls him by his full name?
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Oh yeah, I forgot to post this earlier: Bernie released a tape of folk songs featuring Vermont artists back in 1987: http://digital.vpr.net/post/listen-highlights-bernie-sanders-1987-folk-album (If you go in expecting him to sing you'll be disappointed. And then happy again because it's even better than that)
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Bernie's the one modern politician that could use folk and protest songs for his campaign and the artists would actually approve
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lamentable dustman posted:Yea, the internet is setting Sanders up to be the lefts Ron Paul. Can't wait till the Sanders Blimp starts flying around. There are worse things in this world than an open socialist getting as popular as Ron Paul did. If nothing else it will make it a lot harder for the right wing to use SOCIALISM as a scare word. visceril posted:Bernie's the one modern politician that could use folk and protest songs for his campaign and the artists would actually approve Pete Seeger did sing at Obama's first inaugural. But that was the last gasp of Campaign Obama.
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remusclaw posted:Does the drone then proceed to reel him up and fly him to the police station? In theory the drones do add a lot of options. Tranquilizer darts become a real possibility for fleeing subjects, because you can sit around and wait to see if a small dose takes affect. Nets are possible. A glue gun to could stick the suspect in place. You can also just keep a patrol car at a distance and wait for the suspect to get tired. A more radical approach would be to take the beat cops' guns away and put lethal force only in the hands of a small subset of highly trained officers. None of that is very likely with todays police but there's no reason that drones couldn't be used to decrease police shootings and collateral damage.
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Leviathan Song posted:In theory the drones do add a lot of options. Tranquilizer darts become a real possibility for fleeing subjects, because you can sit around and wait to see if a small dose takes affect. Nets are possible. A glue gun to could stick the suspect in place. You can also just keep a patrol car at a distance and wait for the suspect to get tired. Or you could just give the tranq guns to the officers deemed unfit to carry a lethal weapon and take the drones out of the equation entirely.
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Bernie is currently on the front page of the DNC's website right under Obama and has 2 of the 3 top news stories devoted to him. Will Hillary get taken down... from WITHIN?!?
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lelandjs posted:Or you could just give the tranq guns to the officers deemed unfit to carry a lethal weapon and take the drones out of the equation entirely. how about we don't arm anyone deemed unfit and fire them, that sounds like a much lower investment alternative no? Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Bernie is currently on the front page of the DNC's website right under Obama and has 2 of the 3 top news stories devoted to him. is it one of these?  because if its not it should be.
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Perhaps we could create a police android, that would never rest, and that would serve three prime directives: to serve the public trust, protect the innocent, and uphold the law. This is the future of law enforcement that I want
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Spaceman Future! posted:how about we don't arm anyone deemed unfit and fire them, that sounds like a much lower investment alternative no? Well that's the logical thing to do, I was trying to find a halfway point between logical and that guy's glue gun drone fever dream \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Edit: "In theory the drones do add a lot of options. Nets are possible. A glue gun to could stick the suspect in place." would be pretty great av text.
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Leviathan Song posted:In theory the drones do add a lot of options. Tranquilizer darts become a real possibility for fleeing subjects, because you can sit around and wait to see if a small dose takes affect. Nets are possible. A glue gun to could stick the suspect in place.
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lelandjs posted:Well that's the logical thing to do, I was trying to find a halfway point between logical and that guy's glue gun drone fever dream Why are you humoring the guy who is fairly obviously a lobbyist the ACME corporation?
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 Do it Boys  Vote for Bernie or vote for someone who voted for the Iraq war (lmao).
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Enigma89 posted:
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Enigma89 posted:
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joeburz posted:im never going to fault someone for changing their minds from a reprehensible position after introspection, but im wondering if you fully understand the differences between your initial backing of Rand Paul and your current enthusiasm for Bernie Sanders. I know he is very different from Ron Paul on several domestic issues but as I have said several times before I am more or less a single issue voter and there isn't really another dove in the election so my hands are tied on who I can support. 2008 had Kucinich and Paul so I ended up going with Paul. If Paul didn't run in 2008, I would of donated to Kucinich.
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Enigma89 posted:I know he is very different from Ron Paul on several domestic issues but as I have said several times before I am more or less a single issue voter and there isn't really another dove in the election so my hands are tied on who I can support. 2008 had Kucinich and Paul so I ended up going with Paul. If Paul didn't run in 2008, I would of donated to Kucinich. I doubt he got the money unless you used the sanctioned method of writing "for politiks" on a $100 dollar bill and shoved it into a woodchipper.
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Spaceman Future! posted:I doubt he got the money unless you used the sanctioned method of writing "for politiks" on a $100 dollar bill and shoved it into a woodchipper. Whatever, I donated to a dove. My conscience is clear. Hopefully he trounces Hillary but even I will admit it may not happen; a lot of war enthusiasts in the US. It would be pretty sweet karmic justice if Hillary's vote on Iraq ended up costing her this election. That would be so sweet. 
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Spaceman Future! posted:Why are you humoring the guy who is fairly obviously a lobbyist the ACME corporation? You got me. I may have spent too much time reading the PYF weapons system thread http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3712035.
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Enigma89 posted:Whatever, I donated to a dove. My conscience is clear. Nobody who has supported a Paul should ever have a clear conscience, bud.
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I know it's a really small sample set, but I don't like the push by the base for Bernie. Other than Clinton, who was running against another moderate, almost all of the winning candidates in the past 2 decades have come from the outside in. W and Obama came from the outside of McCain and Hilary respectively, and won. Gore came from inside Bradley, Kerry came from inside Dean, McCain came from inside Romney, and Romney came from inside of the clown car. If Hilary has to run to the center of Sanders and then turn around (like an etch-a-sketch), it's going to be harder to win. Give me a joke candidate like Schweitzer or Webb.
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Nevermind, changing my vote to Diamond Joe: He's got his mind on his ice cream and dollas in his hand
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Leviathan Song posted:In theory the drones do add a lot of options. Tranquilizer darts become a real possibility for fleeing subjects, because you can sit around and wait to see if a small dose takes affect. Nets are possible. A glue gun to could stick the suspect in place. You can also just keep a patrol car at a distance and wait for the suspect to get tired. Invention Convention idea by Timmy, age 11.
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Vienna Circlejerk posted:Invention Convention idea by Timmy, age 11. Found the article I was looking for: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1311313/Glue-guns-will-help-police-to-quell-violent-protesters.html It's not my idea, it's an idea taken seriously by police and military units the world over. You can feel how you want about that.
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The X-man cometh posted:I know it's a really small sample set, but I don't like the push by the base for Bernie. Oh, don't worry, there will be at least one embarassing conservative democrat running. Not sure who it will be, just yet, but whoever it is will pick up some votes. Racist southerners, Reagan Democrats and blue dogs comprise more of the democratic primary electorate than college leftists do. If Bernie wants a strong 2nd-place finish, he has to get better at minority outreach than he has been. That's where he can actually take a noticeable number of votes from Hillary, though it's an up-hill battle. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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