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Yeah all the pros on Twitter were saying he was doing the same thing as stealing money from other competitors by cheating that bad, and they are right.
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I just did a draft. It reminded me why I hate drafting. God what a miserable way to play.
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suicidesteve posted:I just did a draft. It reminded me why I hate drafting. God what a miserable way to play. lol. Real constructive topic for the magic thread tonight. Also dead wrong so good job I guess.
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suicidesteve posted:I just did a draft. It reminded me why I hate drafting. God what a miserable way to play. Without any real details, saying things like this honestly just sounds like you're salty about a loss.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:lol. Real constructive topic for the magic thread tonight. Also dead wrong so good job I guess. I hate when my opinions are wrong. Jabor posted:Without any real details, saying things like this honestly just sounds like you're salty about a loss. Not so much the loss, I just didn't really get to play. It's pretty miserable when I finally get time to play online for the first time in months and I don't actually get to play the game. At the end of pack 1, I had 9 playable white cards. I got like, 2 more white cards in pack 2 because apparently the person next to me was white even though I passed 1 playable white card. I started picking up some green, which promptly disappeared halfway through the pack. So I had to splash Sarkhan's Rage and Pyrotechnics just to get to 23 playables. Also because they're pretty good. Game 1 I mull to 6, keep 2 lands, and draw 2 more along with every 5 and 6 cost card in my deck. Game 2 I mull to 6, keep 2 lands, miss on land for 3 turns, start playing the game at 12 life thanks to a turn 2 Frost Walker, almost stabilize, and die to a dragon that I could have dealt with if I wasn't at 3 life. This is the story of most of the MTGO drafts I've ever done.
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Apr 30, 2015 06:20
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suicidesteve posted:I hate when my opinions are wrong. Why are you playing single elim drafts anyway? I've been way happier with MtGO since I started playing Swiss drafts exclusively, and honestly, I think I've improved my drafting skills much faster than when I played in 8-4s or (gasp) 4-3-2-2s since I get a lot more games in. It also usually solves the "don't get to play" problem where you just get mana screwed/flooded out of the first round despite having a good deck. Except when it happens to you all three rounds, but that really is exceedingly rare.
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Apr 30, 2015 06:33
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Way to be butt hurt about variance and your own inability to read signals. Congrats on that.
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If you want to just play and get free wins just draft at FNM, really. The average store isn't all that competitive since half of any given pod are random dudes who barely even know how the drafting process works. Now, that obviously sucks if you're trying to practice for a GP or something, but that's what MODO is for.
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Apr 30, 2015 07:02
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Angry Grimace posted:If you want to just play and get free wins just draft at FNM, really. The average store isn't all that competitive since half of any given pod are random dudes who barely even know how the drafting process works. Now, that obviously sucks if you're trying to practice for a GP or something, but that's what MODO is for. Drafts go off at the same time as legacy at my store and I usually don't have time to draft after. I did win the last draft I did though, and yeah, half of them were first time drafters who got knocked out in the first round. ShadeofBlue posted:Why are you playing single elim drafts anyway? I've been way happier with MtGO since I started playing Swiss drafts exclusively, and honestly, I think I've improved my drafting skills much faster than when I played in 8-4s or (gasp) 4-3-2-2s since I get a lot more games in. It also usually solves the "don't get to play" problem where you just get mana screwed/flooded out of the first round despite having a good deck. Except when it happens to you all three rounds, but that really is exceedingly rare. Like I said, I haven't played in months. I jumped in whichever one was firing first, which was a 4-3-2-2. I think I used up all my luck a few weekends ago and it's coming back to bite me now.
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I was pretty good at triple Khans, okay at FKK, and I've been terrible at DDF for whatever reason. I've been extra salty about it because my best pull since my 9th Flooded Strand  halfway through FKK has been a foil OG Silumgar, meanwhile we've been getting around one insane pull a week per FNM for about two months ranging from foil fetches and planeswalkers to someone who pulled three Polluted Deltas in the last FKK draft. I'm beginning to suspect that my increased involvement in judging both the standard and draft FNMs is tanking my draft skills, I started occasionally judging and passed my L1 during FKK and have been alternating running the draft or running both since DDF hit. At least I'm getting paid above minimum wage in store credit to do it 
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BXCX posted:I was pretty good at triple Khans, okay at FKK, and I've been terrible at DDF for whatever reason. I've been extra salty about it because my best pull since my 9th Flooded Strand I've never been great at drafting or anything, but I'm definitely not "consistently 0/2 match 1 drop" bad as my experience with MTGO would seem to indicate. IRL even with competent drafters I've made it to the 3rd round/won 4 of my last 4 drafts. It's especially annoying because I actually do like drafting contrary to my original salt-post but I swear I lose 2/3 of my games online to variance. Also in my last draft my friend opened Ugin pack 2 and got passed Whisperwood. The biggest value card I've gotten was a 4th pick rare draft Collected Company in a pack full of cards that were off color and bad.
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Apr 30, 2015 09:52
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I like when complaints about Magic boil down to "I swear the laws of statistics don't apply to me!"
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What weird format are you drafting where you open FRF pack 2?
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FWIW the average skill level of an elimination MODO draft is significantly higher than the average stores draft. edit: I suppose bad players could randomly be joining elimination events in droves, but the prize structure doesn't reward that behavior so I wouldn't expect it. rabidsquid fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 30, 2015 10:02
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Yeah well last night IRL I drafted a sweet UB deck, got paired against the other real deck round 1 (he had two Sidisis) and lost round 3 to a stupid 5c dragons deck
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Barry Shitpeas posted:Yeah well last night IRL I drafted a sweet UB deck, got paired against the other real deck round 1 (he had two Sidisis) and lost round 3 to a stupid 5c dragons deck poo poo like this happens. My store drafts for game day since not everyone who plays there can splurge on tier 1 Standard decks, and I ended up winning the whole thing with one of the shittiest 3 color abominations I've seen come out of DDF. We played four rounds. I got the bye round 1. I played one of the less experienced players round 2. My round 3 opponent (who had the real deck at the table) got flooded two games in a row. And my 4 round opponent wanted to draw for more packs, and I ended up with higher tie breakers. No real skill needed, whatsoever. 
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Legacy players, I have made my first legacy deck ever (It's Mono Blue OmniTell, after seeing it do well in GP Kyoto and I had a couple of pieces already) I have all the parts (Shows, Omnis) apart from FoWs, which are too expensive for me at this point, is there anything I can use that is a relatively decent replacement for it? Daze, maybe? I know there isn't anything that completely replaces it, but I want to play it now without having to proxy them and buy them one at a time in the future.
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Samael posted:Legacy players, I have made my first legacy deck ever (It's Mono Blue OmniTell, after seeing it do well in GP Kyoto and I had a couple of pieces already) I have all the parts (Shows, Omnis) apart from FoWs, which are too expensive for me at this point, is there anything I can use that is a relatively decent replacement for it? Daze, maybe? I know there isn't anything that completely replaces it, but I want to play it now without having to proxy them and buy them one at a time in the future. Misdirection, Pact of Negation, Daze, Disrupting Shoal...are the closest things out there, I guess. However, these all are orders of magnitude worse than Force. There is no replacement for Force of Will.
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Madmarker posted:Misdirection, Pact of Negation, Daze, Disrupting Shoal...are the closest things out there, I guess. Oh I know Madmarker. I don't expect there to be a replacement at all. I am buying them, it's more of a case of something that just fill in as a suitable counterspell while playing casual legacy with friends. Misdirection seems fine, plus they are pretty cheap because of conspiracy.
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i'd play misdirection in omni-tell to protect the combo. maybe run some additional one mana counters to fight noncounterspell stuff. another upside of misdirection is it'll probably develop habits closest to force in terms of deciding what cards you want to pitch.
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black potus posted:i'd play misdirection in omni-tell to protect the combo. maybe run some additional one mana counters to fight noncounterspell stuff. another upside of misdirection is it'll probably develop habits closest to force in terms of deciding what cards you want to pitch. Agreed, Misdirection is the closest in both form and function to Force for a combo deck.
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AlternateNu posted:poo poo like this happens. My store drafts for game day since not everyone who plays there can splurge on tier 1 Standard decks, and I ended up winning the whole thing with one of the shittiest 3 color abominations I've seen come out of DDF. Yeah I can laugh about it in retrospect but I do go into immediate tilt at the prospect of losing to someone playing poo poo like Sight of the Scalelords
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Playing draft, even single elim, is fun as hell in person, but manages to be totally insufferable on MODO. This is because MODO is garbage and not worth playing.
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Jabor posted:What weird format are you drafting where you open FRF pack 2? DTK-FRF-KTK? 
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Barry Shitpeas posted:Yeah I can laugh about it in retrospect but I do go into immediate tilt at the prospect of losing to someone playing poo poo like Sight of the Scalelords I actually like that card if you have the big-butt base for it.  It works great in U/G if you can get ahold of Gurmag Drowner, Aerie Bowman, Updraft Elemental, and Scaleguard Sentinels with a couple decent dragons.
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In the ongoing adventures of MODO programming, WotC is hiring a few devs. It's all fairly blah except for this one position http://company.wizards.com/about/careers/software-developer-temporary-job-renton-wa-us?careers-view=1 It's a temporary software dev position. Explicitly. Yet, they're looking for someone with 7 years of experience in a shitload of fields. A person that actually fit these requirements could make 150k+/year minimum in a full time salary position, but WotC wants to hire them as a temp. Amazon, right next door, is paying 150-250 starting salary for an employee like that. Is it any surprise that the product is poo poo when you'd have to be an idiot to take the jobs they offer? http://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/Working-at-Wizards-of-the-Coast-EI_IE4718.11,31.htm Just look at the reviews of working there. Skyl3lazer fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 30, 2015 15:29
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I don't think we can state enough how stupid Wizards is when it comes to technology. How can you hire someone with all that experience and knowledge as a temporary position? And how can you pay absolute poo poo for it on top of that? edit: on the subject of MTGO sucking hot poo poo, Sundering Titan sometimes forgets that shocklands and dual lands have multiple types and doesn't let you blow up all the required land. Example, my opponent has 7 lands, which include a hallowed fountain, a godless shrine, a swamp, and an island. Clicking on Hallowed Fountain and Godless Shrine deny me the ability to click on Island or Swamp, and vice versa. 
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Apr 30, 2015 15:36
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Because they still think of modo as a cute little side-project instead of a real product.
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Count Bleck posted:I don't think we can state enough how stupid Wizards is when it comes to technology. How can you hire someone with all that experience and knowledge as a temporary position? And how can you pay absolute poo poo for it on top of that? Because you get to "live the dream" of working for the company that makes that game you love! That's worth a 50% pay cut from what you'd be making otherwise, right? Look at how many of their employees are former pro-players, and not just on the technical side. When you hire people who love the game unquestioningly, rather than people who have the actual business skills you need, this is the result.
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Entropic posted:Because they still think of modo as a cute little side-project instead of a real product. A cute little side project funded by the military to make the fastest possible profitable method to cause balding and shortened lifespan for all parties directly involved.
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My fondest hope is that some day there's a MTGO source code leak so we can see how bad it actually is.
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Minority Deport posted:They finished running the investigations of those guys DQ'd at the Pro Tour. they should cut these peoples' hands off so they can never play wizard poker again
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Skyl3lazer posted:In the ongoing adventures of MODO programming, WotC is hiring a few devs. It's all fairly blah except for this one position Working on MTGO for a small time (like a year) is on my bucket list. I just gotta see how bad it is. I do feel bad for their digital department, though. From what I can tell they get a shoestring budget and wizard's (from what I hear, garbage) management won't give them the resources they need to make a functioning piece of software.
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Kabanaw posted:Working on MTGO for a small time (like a year) is on my bucket list. I just gotta see how bad it is. As long as the goal is to make MTGO work from whatever design direction paper magic decides to make without any oversight, it will always be poo poo.
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Gyshall posted:they should cut these peoples' hands off so they can never play wizard poker again you can actually get someone to handle your cards for you if for whatever reason you can't do it yourself
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If I was interested in buying into UR Twin, what are the cards I should buy now vs. what I should wait for reprints? I'm currently looking at a playset of Snapcaster Mage and a number of shock lands. I'm planning on waiting for Zen fetches in return to Zendikar. What are cards that definitely won't be reprinted in MM15, due to being out of the reprinted sets in MM15?
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ShaneB posted:If I was interested in buying into UR Twin, what are the cards I should buy now vs. what I should wait for reprints? I'm currently looking at a playset of Snapcaster Mage and a number of shock lands. I'm planning on waiting for Zen fetches in return to Zendikar. What are cards that definitely won't be reprinted in MM15, due to being out of the reprinted sets in MM15? Twin is reprinted in MM15 according to some 'leaks', and this is covering Alara, New Phyrexia, Lorywn, Zendikar, and Mirrodin, I think? So snapcaster being reprinted is out of the question as that's from Innistrad, and the Shocklands are going nowhere but up from here so there's also that. So yeah get those Snaps and Shocks.
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Count Bleck posted:Twin is reprinted in MM15 according to some 'leaks', and this is covering Alara, New Phyrexia, Lorywn, Zendikar, and Mirrodin, I think? Anything else worth snagging out of the decklist? I'm a somewhat new player so I don't know the timeline of all the other cards in the deck. I know I could do the research myself but I'm hoping someone with the knowledge can just chime in much more quickly than the time I would spend.
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Count Bleck posted:Twin is reprinted in MM15 according to some 'leaks', and this is covering Alara, New Phyrexia, Lorywn, Zendikar, and Mirrodin, I think? 8th to scars block are up for reprint. I agree on snaps and shocks. I'd also look out for sb/maybeboard cards from innistrad to ktk, like counterflux, keranos, etc.
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ShaneB posted:If I was interested in buying into UR Twin, what are the cards I should buy now vs. what I should wait for reprints? I'm currently looking at a playset of Snapcaster Mage and a number of shock lands. I'm planning on waiting for Zen fetches in return to Zendikar. What are cards that definitely won't be reprinted in MM15, due to being out of the reprinted sets in MM15? Snaps and shocks are going nowhere but up. A reprint on snapcaster is probably 2 years away at best, shocks is probay like 4 or 5 years away.
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