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FactsAreUseless posted:Also did you know that all Smash Bros. animations are done via motion capture, just like Mortal Kombat? Strange but true. I heard the main reason for the long development cycle was that they had to cultivate a real life friendship between a duck and a dog.
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Reiley posted:I'll say a prayer to God for the Roy mains out there. God is dead. And Ike killed her.
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After much consideration and soul searching I voted for Jeff Andonuts.
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Bowser with the Dashing Koopa Claw custom is incredible. The move has zero landing lag so you can use it in the air then immediately use it again when you land to cover insane distances. Other things you can do with it after landing: -Use it again in the opposite direction to get away. -Use a forward smash sliding dropkick with insane range. -Blow past them in the air if they shield, then forward smash in the opposite direction to either hit them or break their shield if it's still up. -Sliding down smashes. -Instantly catch them with a Bowser Bomb. and basically anything else. I think Bowser is one of my favorite characters now using this move. It completely changes the way you play him. Evil Eagle fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Apr 29, 2015 |
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mabels big day posted:God is dead. And Ike killed her. Ike is just a baby compared to her
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sharrrk posted:Ike is just a baby compared to her It's canonical that Ike slayed a goddess.
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mabels big day posted:It's canonical that Ike slayed a goddess.
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The Mewtennis Mod has been added to the eshop. Get it while you can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cbp7IEzB0k
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Evil Eagle posted:The Mewtennis Mod has been added to the eshop. Get it while you can. Oh my god, I'm gonna download this right now along with a better version of Super Smash Sports. 
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Mewtwo tennis is stupid because, like all reflecting moves, Confusion has a damage threshold that when surpassed means the attack will keep on trucking and wreck your poo poo. If you watch pretty much any of these videos you can see the fully charged shadow ball get hit back exactly 3 times before Confusion can't take it anymore and the other guy eats it, every single time. It's beyond dumb to try and build a game around a fixed outcome, you might as well watch paint dry. So why is it so popular? Get out of the replays, everyone's seen it already 
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Cicadas! posted:Mewtwo tennis is stupid because, like all reflecting moves, Confusion has a damage threshold that when surpassed means the attack will keep on trucking and wreck your poo poo. If you watch pretty much any of these videos you can see the fully charged shadow ball get hit back exactly 3 times before Confusion can't take it anymore and the other guy eats it, every single time. It's beyond dumb to try and build a game around a fixed outcome, you might as well watch paint dry. If you don't fully charge it though...
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A new mode that would take very little time to develop would be letting players choose 3 different characters per match to play as with a single stock per character. So, for example, during the character select portion, you could choose Link, then Zelda, then Ganon. The match starts and you play as Link for the first stock. When he gets KO'd, you spawn as Zelda. She gets KO'd, you get the idea...
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Apr 30, 2015 18:02
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Dodgeball posted:A new mode that would take very little time to develop would be letting players choose 3 different characters per match to play as with a single stock per character. So, for example, during the character select portion, you could choose Link, then Zelda, then Ganon. The match starts and you play as Link for the first stock. When he gets KO'd, you spawn as Zelda. She gets KO'd, you get the idea... You're right, I do get the idea, as it already exist in Project: M 3.5 for the Nintendo Wii and PC consoles. :trollmeme:
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Apr 30, 2015 18:04
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Serious question, is there any reason to get into Project: M if you own and are happy with SSB4? I'm drawn to the endless character mods more than anything and didn't really get butthurt over Brawl's game pace.
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Cuckoo posted:Serious question, is there any reason to get into Project: M if you own and are happy with SSB4? I'm drawn to the endless character mods more than anything and didn't really get butthurt over Brawl's game pace.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Nope. Noted, thanks.
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Chimera-gui posted:My feeling is that if you absolutely have to bring Roy back, the best way to do it is as what Lucina was intended to be: a reskin with unique voice clips. They could design Roy so he remains a clone of Melee Marth instead of Sm4sh Marth, similar to Dr. Mario. I don't know what the differences would be beyond Flare Blade being an overhead swing instead of a stab, though. Maybe also have Melee Marth's Mr. Fantasic-esque grab length.
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Cuckoo posted:Serious question, is there any reason to get into Project: M if you own and are happy with SSB4? I'm drawn to the endless character mods more than anything and didn't really get butthurt over Brawl's game pace. It's possible to enjoy two similar but different things.
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Apr 30, 2015 21:38
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Countblanc posted:It's possible to enjoy two similar but different things. I think what he is asking is: are they different enough for it to matter?
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Guy A. Person posted:I think what he is asking is: are they different enough for it to matter? Some characters, like Lucario, are very different, and theres lots of fanservice stuff, but if you are satisfied with the way Brawl/4U plays, you probably wont get much out of it. Until they release Lyn and Knuckles and Smash 64 mode and stuff.
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I guess it depends on what you enjoy about Smash Bros. If your favorite thing is the character variety then no probably not unless you just really loving love Roy (and maybe Knuckles in the future) for whatever reason. Mechanically they're quite different though, you really can't play them that similarly and some characters might be more fun in one version than another, for example P:M Wario and Bowser are probably my favorite Smash character designs ever, but I really like Mario in Smash 4.
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Countblanc posted:You're right, I do get the idea, as it already exist in Project: M 3.5 for the Nintendo Wii and PC consoles. :trollmeme: 
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Dodgeball don't be rude in the Smash thread, please. This is a place of honor and respect.
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Seriously, this blatant BMing has got to stop.
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Complexcalibur posted:They could design Roy so he remains a clone of Melee Marth instead of Sm4sh Marth, similar to Dr. Mario. I don't know what the differences would be beyond Flare Blade being an overhead swing instead of a stab, though. Maybe also have Melee Marth's Mr. Fantasic-esque grab length. Dr. Mario is not the best example to use for your idea since there are folks of the opinion that he, Lucina, and Dark Pit should have stayed re-skins of Mario, Marth and Pit respectively.
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Chimera-gui posted:Dr. Mario is not the best example to use for your idea since there are folks of the opinion that he, Lucina, and Dark Pit should have stayed re-skins of Mario, Marth and Pit respectively. So you would want one color scheme of a character to have different moves than the others. That's p. dumb.
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Imo I think that the Koopalings should have been unique characters, like in Mario Kart. It's not Right that Morton Koopa Jr. and Lemmy Koopa should have the same stats.
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jivjov posted:So you would want one color scheme of a character to have different moves than the others. That's p. dumb. No, when I say that they wanted Dr. Mario, Lucina, and Dark Pit to be re-skins I mean as straight re-skins. No unique moves, no different stats, no unique Final Smashes; just a different appearance à la Robin and the Koopalings. Reiley posted:Imo I think that the Koopalings should have been unique characters, like in Mario Kart. It's not Right that Morton Koopa Jr. and Lemmy Koopa should have the same stats. I think the justification is that they're using identical vehicles in Smash so they wouldn't need different stats whereas in Mario Kart, they're using different vehicles with different stats. Chimera-gui fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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I think Dark Pit should have just been a skin, but Lucina should stay separate (but be more different than she is). Dr. Mario can go either way, imo. I think sharing a slot is a good way to do the Koopalings, since they've always been kind of a collective force in the Mario games. In this case I accept that the canon of their different sizes/weights is compromised for the sake of functionality. The real elephant in the room is the way that the separate "clone group" has wreaked havoc with the layout of the character select screen, especially coupled with the new "DLC group".
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Reiley posted:Imo I think that the Koopalings should have been unique characters, like in Mario Kart. It's not Right that Morton Koopa Jr. and Lemmy Koopa should have the same stats. I will bring this up with sakurai at the next meeting
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Supercar Gautier posted:I think Dark Pit should have just been a skin, but Lucina should stay separate (but be more different than she is). Dr. Mario can go either way, imo. I think sharing a slot is a good way to do the Koopalings, since they've always been kind of a collective force in the Mario games. In this case I accept that the canon of their different sizes/weights is compromised for the sake of functionality. I would agree with you about Dark Pit since he's basically one of Pit's Brawl skins brought to life in Uprising but then you run into the problem of DP using the Three Sacred Treasures despite never using them in Uprising itself. Mind you, the Treasures should technically be broken as of Uprising meaning Pit shouldn't be able to use them either but folks are more willing to give that a pass then they would with Pittoo using them since Pit actually did use them. I do agree about Lucina needing more differentiation from Marth though. And the Koopalings sharing a slot does at least make sense in that they act as a group. Chimera-gui fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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I am lenient about Final Smash canon. The koopalings should not have a Mario Sunshine themed FS, but they do.
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Supercar Gautier posted:I am lenient about Final Smash canon. The koopalings should not have a Mario Sunshine themed FS, but they do. Fair point, though I imagine that since they're sharing an arsenal with Bowser Jr., said arsenal might include his paintbrush.
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i like how dr. mario was made to be different from mario, because even though mario is better there's still things that dr. mario can do that mario can't, so there's a reason to play him. and there are like 3 things that are different between pit and dark pit so that just comes down to player preference. lucina is just a bad design though. there is 0 reason to use her over marth because she's just flat out worse. i really hope she gets a redesign in a free update down the line (this won't happen). it's almost like picking between pikachu and pichu in melee, but at least pichu dealt a lot more damage and made your opponent feel humiliated if they lost.
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sharrrk posted:i like how dr. mario was made to be different from mario, because even though mario is better there's still things that dr. mario can do that mario can't, so there's a reason to play him. and there are like 3 things that are different between pit and dark pit so that just comes down to player preference. lucina is just a bad design though. there is 0 reason to use her over marth because she's just flat out worse. i really hope she gets a redesign in a free update down the line (this won't happen). it's almost like picking between pikachu and pichu in melee, but at least pichu dealt a lot more damage and made your opponent feel humiliated if they lost. Yeah, while I do like Dark Pit as a character, I wish he was more different in Smash from Pit. Especially since there are so many different weapons in that game, and the only thing they did was give him the Electroshock Arm instead of the Upperdash Arm for his side-B and kept everything else more or less the same.
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Chimera-gui posted:I do agree about Lucina needing more differentiation from Marth though. Why? I mean, isn't her entire character literally "Female Marth"?
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Ruggington posted:I will bring this up with sakurai at the next meeting Thank you.
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Shadowlyger posted:Why? I mean, isn't her entire character literally "Female Marth"? Marth doesn't bash holes into walls when he trains. And he also doesn't have aether.
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Objectively speaking, the only three fire emblem characters who deserve to be in smash are Marth, Ike, and Anna, and well, they hosed up somewhere.
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Shadowlyger posted:Why? I mean, isn't her entire character literally "Female Marth"? The funny part is Lucina in universe fights like Ike.
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