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Eh! Frank posted:Except they weren't dead and in purgatory the whole time. Lost had its problems yeah, but it still astounds me how many people are still confused about that part of the finale. If you want to split hairs then no, they were only dead and in purgatory the whole last season. But it's still funny that he ruled that out and then when their backs were against the wall to write an ending they had to say "well,uhhh, actually..."
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Aleph Null posted:I thought that was the point. The Watchmen are hosed up, broken people. Nah, he's blind. People just get confused because there's this one scene when he describes the world as he senses it and they do a visual representation of that in a 'world on fire' kind of way (Matt's words.) People are just exaggerating and/or being stupid. Yeah, he's blind but he's got supersmell and superhearing and echolocation and all that superhero poo poo so he knows the bad guy is three floors down talking to people because he can smell the cologne and maybe he can read printed text because he's got supersense in his fingers so he can feel the ink (although I don't remember that from the series) but I mean, he's a goddamn superhero with superpowers. There's a fair bit of suspension of disbelief going on anyway, why start nitpicking and being a baby?
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To be fair, there's literally a scene where Foggy goes "All this time you've been telling me you're blind, and that's not true? Its all a lie?" and Matt just kinda stays silent and starts crying. He absolutely should have said "Yes I am blind you insensitive dick, I just have good hearing. Weren't you paying attention?", but he doesn't. He can't see, but effectively all his powers mean he doesn't need to. He can do everything we use sight for other ways, so he's not in any way impaired. He's just playing the blind man... because he grew up that way? Because it makes him sympathetic? Like if he can hear so loving exactly, why can't he just look at people while he talks to them? He could totally fake being able to see. You're telling me he can smell the cologne of a guy 3 floors down and he can fight a bunch of dudes and jump off buildings and land on cars and poo poo, but he can't tell where the person talking to him is standing?  The whole Daredevil thing is inherently a contradiction. As we said before, he's a superhero who is blind and his superpower is that he's not blind. But whatever, good show anyways.
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Zaphod42 posted:To be fair, there's literally a scene where Foggy goes "All this time you've been telling me you're blind, and that's not true? Its all a lie?" and Matt just kinda stays silent and starts crying. Could he use a tablet, or touch screen phone, or actually drive while following stoplights and the like?
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Zaphod42 posted:To be fair, there's literally a scene where Foggy goes "All this time you've been telling me you're blind, and that's not true? Its all a lie?" and Matt just kinda stays silent and starts crying. Matt literally responds to 'So you can see?' with 'no, have you listened to anything I've been telling you?' Edit: Things Matt Murdock can't perceive: colour, the sky, anything on a screen (phones, movies, computers), anything written on a chalkboard, print (without touching it). And he can't pretend to be able to see because his eyes don't focus on objects and people would notice that. Think how weird and off-putting it can be when someone has a trick eye and you have to work out which one is looking at you. HopperUK has a new favorite as of 00:39 on May 1, 2015 |
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Calaveron posted:Could he use a tablet, or touch screen phone, or actually drive while following stoplights and the like? Irrationally Irritating: Sight is the brain creating a visual representation of photons hitting the retina. That god drat scene was a visual narrative tool used describe how different the world is to him when filtered through all his *remaining* super-enhanced senses. He does not have "sight" because his eyes do not loving work. To say he "sees' anything is metaphorical at best. He can do that because he's a super-hero with super-loving-powers given to him by MacGuffin Toxic Chemical X. For fucks sake, you spergs.
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flosofl posted:Irrationally Irritating: Sight is the brain creating a visual representation of photons hitting the retina. That god drat scene was a visual narrative tool used describe how different the world is to him when filtered through all his *remaining* super-enhanced senses. He does not have "sight" because his eyes do not loving work. To say he "sees' anything is metaphorical at best. PYF Irrationally Irritating Movie Moments: for fucks sake, you spergs
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flosofl posted:Irrationally Irritating: Sight is the brain creating a visual representation of photons hitting the retina. That god drat scene was a visual narrative tool used describe how different the world is to him when filtered through all his *remaining* super-enhanced senses. He does not have "sight" because his eyes do not loving work. To say he "sees' anything is metaphorical at best. There are... there are irrationally irritating moments being conveyed...in THIS thread??? SOMEONE CALL RIPLEY'S!!
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flosofl posted:Irrationally Irritating: Sight is the brain creating a visual representation of photons hitting the retina. That god drat scene was a visual narrative tool used describe how different the world is to him when filtered through all his *remaining* super-enhanced senses. He does not have "sight" because his eyes do not loving work. To say he "sees' anything is metaphorical at best. Man I wasn't sperging I was genuinely curious how they handle stuff like that in the new miniseries of which I admit have watched none.
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Krinkle posted:If you want to split hairs then no, they were only dead and in purgatory the whole last season. But it's still funny that he ruled that out and then when their backs were against the wall to write an ending they had to say "well,uhhh, actually..." Only the off island scenes of the final season are purgatory. All the island stuff actually happened.
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Aleph Null posted:I thought that was the point. The Watchmen are hosed up, broken people. Yes, that is exactly the point.
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Calaveron posted:Man I wasn't sperging I was genuinely curious how they handle stuff like that in the new miniseries of which I admit have watched none. Nah, that wasn't aimed at you. I hit quote on the wrong comment.
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The last ten pages are all daredevil can someone get mad at literally anything else but daredevil? please? My physics TA over a decade ago went off for several minutes of not-grading-our-goddamn-quizzes to say that Independence Day was poo poo because "if those space ships were 'a quarter the mass of earth's moon' they wouldn't need lasers to blow up buildings, just hovering there would tear the streets up due to gravitational forces" and it wasn't until later I rewatched it and realized they only said that about the mother-ship, not the monument-destroyers that came out of it. It's kind of hurting my head thinking of all the tidal problems that an extra quarter moon would cause, though.
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Krinkle posted:The last ten pages are all daredevil can someone get mad at literally anything else but daredevil? please? Maybe they'll explore the consequences of that in the sequel, coming out next year. I can't believe there is an Independence Day sequel.
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Morpheus posted:Maybe they'll explore the consequences of that in the sequel, coming out next year.
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Morpheus posted:Maybe they'll explore the consequences of that in the sequel, coming out next year. Me neither. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1628841/ Did they just cut/paste the cast from the last movie? Why is brent spiner there, he most definitely got murdered by an alien. If they did then why isn't Will Smith attached?
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Krinkle posted:The last ten pages are all daredevil can someone get mad at literally anything else but daredevil? please? I would pay large amounts of money for it to be very socially unacceptable for people older than 17 to watch superhero movies/tv shows etc. Or at least to not have to hear about them ever. None of them make any sense! No matter how gritty or grounded or anything! What the hell is wrong with everybody?
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Krinkle posted:Me neither. I've heard it's just rumors.
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This reads like a joke. How do they already have Bus Passenger and Girl Driving Her Car Away From Chaos listed for cast if it's just rumors and there's no trailer to pull these obscure rear end roles from?
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Krinkle posted:If you want to split hairs then no, they were only dead and in purgatory the whole last season. But it's still funny that he ruled that out and then when their backs were against the wall to write an ending they had to say "well,uhhh, actually..." Many of the characters didn't die at all until well after the events of the show. The "sideways" universe was sort of purgatory, but it was set way in the future after everyone that left with Frank and the survivors on the island presumably lived a full life, so they were only "dead" for some of the scenes in the last season, everything happening in the normal timeline still happened. The producers said that the island wasn't purgatory and they weren't all dead on the island, and you'll notice that in the parts where they were dead, they never even went to the island. ....................   I don't know how much was planned, but that show was better produced than almost anything ever on television and it was one hell of a ride.
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I'm upset at John Wick because the Russians call him Baba Yaga the whole time, even though Baba Yaga is not in any way "the boogeyman" and is also a woman and John Wick never once in that movie flies around in a giant mortar rowing the air with the pestle like an oar, nor does he live in a straw hut with chicken's legs.
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Mr. Kurtz posted:Got sick on alcohol this weekend Aleph Null posted:Edit: is Matt Murdock not being blind a real thing? If so, why bother calling him Daredevil since that's his entire thing. Taeke posted:Nah, he's blind. People just get confused because there's this one scene when he describes the world as he senses it and they do a visual representation of that in a 'world on fire' kind of way (Matt's words.) Taeke posted:People are just exaggerating and/or being stupid. Yeah, he's blind but he's got supersmell and superhearing and echolocation and all that superhero poo poo so he knows the bad guy is three floors down talking to people because he can smell the cologne and maybe he can read printed text because he's got supersense in his fingers so he can feel the ink (although I don't remember that from the series) but I mean, he's a goddamn superhero with superpowers. There's a fair bit of suspension of disbelief going on anyway, why start nitpicking and being a baby? Calaveron posted:Could he use a tablet, or touch screen phone, or actually drive while following stoplights and the like? cheerfullydrab posted:I would pay large amounts of money for it to be very socially unacceptable for people older than 17 to watch superhero movies/tv shows etc. Or at least to not have to hear about them ever. None of them make any sense! No matter how gritty or grounded or anything! What the hell is wrong with everybody?
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Under the vegetable posted:I'm upset at John Wick because the Russians call him Baba Yaga the whole time, even though Baba Yaga is not in any way "the boogeyman" and is also a woman and John Wick never once in that movie flies around in a giant mortar rowing the air with the pestle like an oar, nor does he live in a straw hut with chicken's legs. Yeah, someone decided Baba Yaga just meant 'generic boogeyman' and ran with it. Actually doing any research is hard work.
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cheerfullydrab posted:I would pay large amounts of money for it to be very socially unacceptable for people older than 17 to watch superhero movies/tv shows etc. Or at least to not have to hear about them ever. None of them make any sense! No matter how gritty or grounded or anything! What the hell is wrong with everybody? Boy, people sure do like some things I don't like. What the hell is wrong with those people, am I right?
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Krinkle posted:This reads like a joke. How do they already have Bus Passenger and Girl Driving Her Car Away From Chaos listed for cast if it's just rumors and there's no trailer to pull these obscure rear end roles from? They're actually making the movie and there are actually people cast in it but IMDB isn't really the best source for cast lists for movies that haven't actually come out yet. My understanding is that they're getting pretty much everyone from the main cast back except for Will Smith.
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cheerfullydrab posted:I would pay large amounts of money for it to be very socially unacceptable for people older than 17 to watch superhero movies/tv shows etc. Or at least to not have to hear about them ever. None of them make any sense! No matter how gritty or grounded or anything! What the hell is wrong with everybody? Does the Punisher count as a superhero?
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Mr. Kurtz posted:Got sick on alcohol this weekend and binged about a season of Deadwood. They actually violated history by keeping him around that long. Wild Bill was killed the same day Seth Bullock arrived in Deadwood.
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muscles like this? posted:They're actually making the movie and there are actually people cast in it but IMDB isn't really the best source for cast lists for movies that haven't actually come out yet. My understanding is that they're getting pretty much everyone from the main cast back except for Will Smith. My rational irritation with Independence Day 2 is that they decided to recast the president's daughter for some reason. She was played by a very young Mae Whitman in the original, and they got SO much of the original cast back - but even though Mae Whitman has grown up to be an awesome, talented, lovely actress with a proven track record...they wanted someone more "conventionally hot"? It really bothers me.
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Tiggum posted:Do you mean you were hungover? Tiggum is my irrationally irritating forum user
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Tiggum posted:
The point is how he works around it. Which I would have thought is kinda obvious. This kinda reminds me of people complaining that some of the people Batman femur-crunched or spine-wiggled must have died later from complications. The 'no killing' thing is a handicap. Does it actually put any limitation on Batman? No, because he's the hero, he can always overcome that limitation because if he couldn't, there wouldn't be a drat story. The writers could come up with more scenarios where, like, color matters, but that would seem awkward and weird.
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cheerfullydrab posted:I would pay large amounts of money for it to be very socially unacceptable for people older than 17 to watch superhero movies/tv shows etc. Or at least to not have to hear about them ever. None of them make any sense! No matter how gritty or grounded or anything! What the hell is wrong with everybody? 
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In Hot Tub Time Machine. Nick is freaking out and explaining how time works like in Terminator and has a fuckton of cocaine on his face, but mid explanation they pan to other people in the group, and when he finishes he only has a small coke mustache. You'd think a movie ABOUT TIME TRAVEL would have better continuity in the shots <  >
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Vulpes posted:Yeah, someone decided Baba Yaga just meant 'generic boogeyman' and ran with it. Actually doing any research is hard work. It does, though? I'm from Eastern Europe and when I was little, my parents tried to scare me into behaving by telling me Baba Yaga would come for me and take me away 
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szary posted:It does, though? I'm from Eastern Europe and when I was little, my parents tried to scare me into behaving by telling me Baba Yaga would come for me and take me away I'm from the western United States and a librarian read us a Baba Yaga book in early grade school because kids love to be scared and it's a good story. Her house has goddam chicken legs, that's not really what I'd call a "bogeyman"
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Scariest boogeyman was the one form the ghosbusters cartoon, that lived in another dimension that accessed all closets on earth.
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Dr_Amazing posted:Scariest boogeyman was the one form the ghosbusters cartoon, that lived in another dimension that accessed all closets on earth. So, a Monsters Inc. prequel?
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Dr_Amazing posted:Scariest boogeyman was the one form the ghosbusters cartoon, that lived in another dimension that accessed all closets on earth. No arguments here.  
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DrBouvenstein posted:No arguments here. That thing's chin is a butt. A hairy butt.
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Back to the Daredevil thing but wouldn't Foggy have been pissed off not because "You can really see!" but, "You had me dragging your rear end across the street and poo poo when you didn't need my help at all". Which is reasonable.
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