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Hot Dog Day #82
Jul 5, 2003

Soiled Meat
President Taft went on to join the Supreme Court. I hope that is the route that Bill Clinton's career will take!

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Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
the Cuck Brothers are backing Sanders!

Male Tiers
Dec 27, 2012

Why don't you just lay down your weapons now?
My plan is to vote Bernie in the primaries and then in the election either Clinton or whoever's heading the Green Party these days because the state I'm in is solidly blue.

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

Concerned Citizen posted:

kagan and sotomayor own

:agreed:

disregard_last
Mar 30, 2015
I wanted Lenin but I got Sanders. I'll take it.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
bernie sanders has the most important voting demographic on lockdown: shut-in 20 and 30-something marxists

give it up hitlery, its over

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

closeted republican posted:

bernie sanders has the most important voting demographic on lockdown: shut-in 20 and 30-something marxists

give it up hitlery, its over

lmbo

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

Animal-Mother posted:

the Cuck Brothers are backing Sanders!

Good.

Also, first result on Google for "Bernie Sanders plan"

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/agenda/

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Under the vegetable posted:

they are cool people but i have no faith in Hillary to nominate anyone who isn't explicitly pro corp/bank/dereg

she will nominate liberals because the calculus is fairly simple. liberal justices will not overturn her policies, conservatives will. and centrists tend to drift over time so there's essentially no benefit to doing anything other than nominating the most liberal person you can get away with.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
I don't know who this guy is, but if all of you like him so much I'm going to assume he's unelectable, so hopefully he gives Hillary a run for her money.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Concerned Citizen posted:

she will nominate liberals because the calculus is fairly simple. liberal justices will not overturn her policies, conservatives will. and centrists tend to drift over time so there's essentially no benefit to doing anything other than nominating the most liberal person you can get away with.

i don't think her policies will be very liberal at all, Concerned Citizen!

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
Well, maybe neoliberal, but those are indistinguishable from conservative

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Under the vegetable posted:

i don't think her policies will be very liberal at all, Concerned Citizen!

doesn't matter. there's no constitutional basis to overturn almost any deregulation, so appointing a conservative/moderate gains her nothing even if they agree with her. but she still supports numerous government programs that are threatened by conservative justices, so she will always want the most liberal justice possible to protect those.

basically game theory would suggest that there is no reason for a democrat to ever appoint a moderate

1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer
$22 so far? That is nothing.

Zev
Apr 3, 2009

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Concerned Citizen posted:

she will nominate liberals because the calculus is fairly simple. liberal justices will not overturn her policies, conservatives will. and centrists tend to drift over time so there's essentially no benefit to doing anything other than nominating the most liberal person you can get away with.

exactly. justice stevens was nominated by gerald ford, and justice souter by bush 1, and they turned into the most reliably liberal votes on the supreme court by the end of their tenures. as politics have become more polarized since the early nineties, presidents have learned their lesson

resting bort face
Jun 2, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Frackie Robinson posted:

I don't know who this guy is, but if all of you like him so much I'm going to assume he's unelectable

SA supported Obama mr smarty pants :D

AbbadonOfHell
Jul 16, 2004
You know I would try to think of something funny to put here but ill just pass on that and threaten people with a + 2 board with a nail in it.
He seems like one of the okay old white dudes, know dude probably won't win but we could always hope.

Neptr
Mar 1, 2011

*raises right hand*

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Concerned Citizen posted:

doesn't matter. there's no constitutional basis to overturn almost any deregulation, so appointing a conservative/moderate gains her nothing even if they agree with her. but she still supports numerous government programs that are threatened by conservative justices, so she will always want the most liberal justice possible to protect those.

basically game theory would suggest that there is no reason for a democrat to ever appoint a moderate

to clarify, this is not entirely accurate. while there is generally no constitutional grounds to overturn deregulation, beyond extremely technical issues such as federalism concerns, there are often grounds to overturn it under administrative law (which is the constitutional law equivalent of the regulatory state) when justices feel like it.

Deadbeat Poetry
Mar 6, 2004

Sorry if my costume scared you
Just posting itt so dudes will have to give money to a dude

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

Savings Coupon posted:

Just posting itt so dudes will have to give money to a dude

socialism at its finest

EngineerSean
Feb 9, 2004

by zen death robot

EngineerSean posted:

I don't want to run afoul of any campaign finance laws so please skip me when calculating how much you should donate.

Just kidding, donate early and donate often.



Just quoting this so Bernie gets another dime.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Jagchosis posted:

to clarify, this is not entirely accurate. while there is generally no constitutional grounds to overturn deregulation, beyond extremely technical issues such as federalism concerns, there are often grounds to overturn it under administrative law (which is the constitutional law equivalent of the regulatory state) when justices feel like it.

i was thinking more along the lines of GLBA than executive action, but yes that's true.

Male Tiers
Dec 27, 2012

Why don't you just lay down your weapons now?
Do you think there will be a Democrat in the primary further left than our pal Bernie? If not then I guess I already got my vote figured out.

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
a vote for anybody but bernie is a vote for waiting around until bridges collapse before doing anything about it

say to the hillary or jeb machines 'hey lets fix our poo poo' they say 'whats in it for me?' status quo motherfuckers getting rich

generations can go by without the chance to put a philosopher king into power i sure as hell am going to jump in with both feet if not only for historical involvement

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

Male Tears posted:

Do you think there will be a Democrat in the primary further left than our pal Bernie? If not then I guess I already got my vote figured out.

Don't think it's possible, there aren't any other self-avowed socialists

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Male Tears posted:

Do you think there will be a Democrat in the primary further left than our pal Bernie? If not then I guess I already got my vote figured out.

Nope progressives like warren said they have no interested in running and most of the the primary tier Democrats are the moderate let's not be mean to job creator types.

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
Alan Grayson is the only person who comes close at the federal level

Rubies
Dec 30, 2005

Live Forever
Die Every Day

:h: :s: :d: :c:

mysterious frankie posted:

Bernie will kill all of us, myself included, and when the last body has fallen he will turn his gun upon himself and end this horrible chapter in the earth's history. In heaven Jesus and Marx will put us to work digging ditches, while the unlucky will descend to hell and spend eternity arguing with Trotsky while hanging out on bean bags.

ugh finally

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

huskarl_marx posted:

Alan Grayson is the only person who comes close at the federal level

grayson isn't left-wing

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Concerned Citizen posted:

i was thinking more along the lines of GLBA than executive action, but yes that's true.

oh yeah she could always veto poo poo like that if ~the base~ got upset enough (which is much more likely to occur in the present era of social media than it was in 1999). i suppose sanders needing less prodding to veto it would be the primary difference between the two.

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot

Concerned Citizen posted:

grayson isn't left-wing

yeah grayson is a reformist at best but he's pretty critical of financial world trade

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
he could pull off a convincing lyndon johnson/jimmy carter act is what im saying

cool tree bro
Jul 27, 2010
we need
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shitposts

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Hot Dog Day #82 posted:

President Taft went on to join the Supreme Court. I hope that is the route that Obummer's career will take!

ManSauceGuzzlr
Jul 18, 2004

"That man...I'm...fascinated by him. That look...his whole look. It's hypnotic."
I'm gay... for Bernie sanders

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

i had to quote this from a zillion pages ago to say every day that goes by man....

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

huskarl_marx posted:

yeah grayson is a reformist at best but he's pretty critical of financial world trade

yeah grayson got rich off telecoms which are not much better than the finance industry re:loving everyone

grayson is more libertarian now than anything, after he was voted out of office and then back into office in a more heavily democratic district he has been surprisingly effective in the house by cobbling together libertarian republican/democrat coalitions on various issues. he's not a socialist by any means, let alone compared to sanders, but if he was running for president internet people would suck his dick endlessly

Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 05:48 on May 1, 2015

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huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
I want to see The Office: SCOTUS edition there's a huge potential for that 'look at the camera' thing and with the right actor, Clarence Thomas' patented Complete Silence On All Issues, Vote As Scalia Does schtick could be funny as gently caress

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