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PT6A posted:Out of curiosity, why would you take a V6 over the EB4? I love the V6 in my 2011, but I think if I were to buy a new Mustang right now, I'd go either for the EB or the GT, even if V6s were available with the same options. Guinness posted:This is the worst reason to not get a car that you want, no matter what the car is.
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ilkhan posted:The torque curve for the EB falls off a cliff at 5k, and when I drove one I could still feel the turbo lag and it annoyed me. Without a turbo upgrade theres no way to fix the cliff drop, even the tunes are only adding boost at 2k and not helping much at the top end. And a bigger turbo to fix the top end would just make the turbo lag worse. I hadn't heard that, but I'll take your word for it. Guess I'll just have to save up for the GT, oh, woe is me 
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PT6A posted:I hadn't heard that, but I'll take your word for it. Guess I'll just have to save up for the GT, oh, woe is me Its actually more like 5.5k, so you're losing the top 1000-1500rpm pretty badly. 
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ilkhan posted:The torque curve for the EB falls off a cliff at 5k, and when I drove one I could still feel the turbo lag and it annoyed me. Without a turbo upgrade theres no way to fix the cliff drop, even the tunes are only adding boost at 2k and not helping much at the top end. And a bigger turbo to fix the top end would just make the turbo lag worse. I didn't really notice any turbo lag, the boost threshold was pretty low too. The way the EB felt and drove worked very well for me. I understand not liking it though. Everyone has different tastes and Ford is going to attempt to cater to all of them.
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ilkhan posted:The torque curve for the EB falls off a cliff at 5k, and when I drove one I could still feel the turbo lag and it annoyed me. Without a turbo upgrade theres no way to fix the cliff drop, even the tunes are only adding boost at 2k and not helping much at the top end. And a bigger turbo to fix the top end would just make the turbo lag worse. Just twin turbo it! One small snail, one big.
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fknlo posted:I hope they have the same issues moving them they had with the Z28 and I find one for $50k new. I just can't get over how the Camaro looks or I would have probably gone after one. I wouldn't count on it, they are only making 137 2015 cars.
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dreesemonkey posted:I wouldn't count on it, they are only making 137 2015 cars. The Midniter posted:Just twin turbo it! One small snail, one big. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 30, 2015 20:15
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SFH1989 posted:I didn't really notice any turbo lag, the boost threshold was pretty low too. The way the EB felt and drove worked very well for me. I understand not liking it though. Everyone has different tastes and Ford is going to attempt to cater to all of them. I've never heard someone complain about lag with the EB engines personally. That's one area where they shine IMO.
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Even with the 3.5 EB there's definitely some lag but you're not going to notice unless you're hammering it from a stop and it's over with quick. The now behind the times 6 speed auto is a larger cause of delays once you're already going(a tune or staying in S alleviates a lot of this on the SHO).
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howling_mad posted:I've never heard someone complain about lag with the EB engines personally. That's one area where they shine IMO. It wasn't 0.
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The nice thing about Ford products being so popular in the metro Detroit area; on a nice day you can drive around with the windows down and here a bunch new EB cars boosting at 2k rpm. Hell, the Steeda airbox I put on my Fusion really amplifies all the sucking, whistling, and huffing noises. And I love it.
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ilkhan posted:Yeah, woah is us. Isnt a torque curve like that kind of ideal for a sporty street car? like the 86/BRZ/FRS has a hole right in the middle of the rev range.
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Laserface posted:Isnt a torque curve like that kind of ideal for a sporty street car? like the 86/BRZ/FRS has a hole right in the middle of the rev range. Otherwise you want as flat as possible and wide as possible. That hole in the brz curve is horrible.
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ilkhan posted:Ideal is full torque from 0 to 200mph. I think its pretty good considering no one is going to be regularly using 5500RPM+ unless their on a race track. at which point you'd want a better turbo anyway.
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Laserface posted:I think its pretty good considering no one is going to be regularly using 5500RPM+ unless their on a race track. at which point you'd want a better turbo anyway. I think it's pretty standard on pretty much every small displacement turbo engine of the past at least decade or so as well? Go to a smaller turbo to try to kill lag and it's going to run out of steam at the top.
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yeah but turbos have improved a fair bit since then too. like you can get a turbo from Garrett now that hits boost 1000RPM sooner and flows 10-25% more air across the whole range while still fitting into the same form factor as its predecessor. Id say the EB is retarding timing like a motherfucker above 5500.
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There's also variable geometry turbochargers that will probably become the norm when the development costs drop enough.
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Anyone see the "birth" ad for the new Audi RS3? Supposedly we're getting the sedan version in North America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHclD1LZS3Y
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Laserface posted:I think its pretty good considering no one is going to be regularly using 5500RPM+ unless their on a race track. at which point you'd want a better turbo anyway. TBH I don't know what you're on about, I rev my car to redline literally every day I drive it.
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Sigma X posted:TBH I don't know what you're on about, I rev my car to redline literally every day I drive it. A redline a day keeps the mechanic away!
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Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone see the "birth" ad for the new Audi RS3? Supposedly we're getting the sedan version in North America. Holy poo poo, you weren't kidding. 
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Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone see the "birth" ad for the new Audi RS3? Supposedly we're getting the sedan version in North America. So we get the physically deformed little brother that gets sent away to boarding school?
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Kraftwerk posted:So we get the physically deformed little brother that gets sent away to boarding school? And then "forgotten" after a couple of years when no one buys one because it's going to be like $60k.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone see the "birth" ad for the new Audi RS3? Supposedly we're getting the sedan version in North America. Audi posted:Every now and then a film comes along that needs to be viewed on the best possible screen *video is only available in 720p* I dig a super Golf, but a super Audi sedan is just so 
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Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone see the "birth" ad for the new Audi RS3? Supposedly we're getting the sedan version in North America. Jesus loving christ. What were they thinking?? There was nothing technically "gross" about that, but it's horrifying nonetheless.
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The Midniter posted:Jesus loving christ. What were they thinking?? It looks like something you'd see out of an old Quake game.
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It's funny, when I first started looking into replacing the Miata a few months ago, there were no RWD cars I was excited about and I was basically at the "I guess a Mazda3 or Focus ST would be OK until I can afford something I really want" phase. Then Ford came along and dropped this new Mustang into the mix and I think I could be pretty happy with that car until I'm making real gently caress you dollars.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:It's funny, when I first started looking into replacing the Miata a few months ago, there were no RWD cars I was excited about and I was basically at the "I guess a Mazda3 or Focus ST would be OK until I can afford something I really want" phase. Then Ford came along and dropped this new Mustang into the mix and I think I could be pretty happy with that car until I'm making real gently caress you dollars. One of the drivers in my autocross region just got a new 5.0. It dominated our pro class at its first outing. The new mustang in 5.0 trim is going to be a real contender this year I think.
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Sadi posted:One of the drivers in my autocross region just got a new 5.0. It dominated our pro class at its first outing. The new mustang in 5.0 trim is going to be a real contender this year I think. Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone see the "birth" ad for the new Audi RS3? Supposedly we're getting the sedan version in North America. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 04:16 on May 2, 2015 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone see the "birth" ad for the new Audi RS3? Supposedly we're getting the sedan version in North America. Well, that's weird.  The ceramic breaks are probably worth half a Focus ST on their own.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:It's funny, when I first started looking into replacing the Miata a few months ago, there were no RWD cars I was excited about and I was basically at the "I guess a Mazda3 or Focus ST would be OK until I can afford something I really want" phase. Then Ford came along and dropped this new Mustang into the mix and I think I could be pretty happy with that car until I'm making real gently caress you dollars. EB, v6 or 5.0 mustang?
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Coredump posted:EB, v6 or 5.0 mustang? By the time we have our finances sorted out to buy, the gt should be right at the top of my price range. The only options I give a poo poo about are ac, Bluetooth, and cruise control so I save some money not needing prostate massage seats or whatever the gently caress they're putting in cars these days. The MUMPSorceress fucked around with this message at 16:04 on May 2, 2015 |
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[quote="LeftistMuslimObama? post="444810173"] By the time we have our finances sorted out to buy, the gt should be right at the top of my price range. The only options I give a poo poo about arena, Bluetooth, and cruise control so I save some money not needing prostate massage seats or whatever the gently caress they're putting in cars these days. [/quote] Get that massage brother, you'll enjoy it OH YEAJ
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As much as I hate GM I think the new Camaro is going to be better than the Mustang, given that it's on the smaller, lighter, by all accounts excellent ATS platform. GM also does V8 engines better than anyone.
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Wheeee posted:As much as I hate GM I think the new Camaro is going to be better than the Mustang, given that it's on the smaller, lighter, by all accounts excellent ATS platform. I wonder if they'll make outward visibility better.
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El Scotch posted:I wonder if they'll make outward visibility better. Sure doesn't look like it http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a6333/spy-photos-give-the-clearest-look-yet-at-the-2016-chevrolet-camaro/
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Expect it to drive brilliantly and have a poo poo awful interior with worse blind spots than a Soviet tank.
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Spiffness posted:Sure doesn't look like it I can't wait for one of these to cut me off every day
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