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I dont even remember watching that episode ("The field..."). Holy gently caress - I may have slept through actual episodes while Netflix moved on. :/
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The Field Where I DIed is a good episode, and I don't understand why people hate it.
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steinrokkan posted:The Field Where I DIed is a good episode, and I don't understand why people hate it. I really dislike the way that these big ideas that would have huge implications for the basic concept of the X-Files as a whole (Fox Mulder is the reincarnation of whoever and has this soulmate etc etc etc) are just tossed off in a random MotW episode and then forgotten about. The concept of the episode is just kind of too big and affects too much about the series to work. I also think it puts its thumb on the scale - it doesn't leave enough room for doubt about what's going on. Also, the episode is just generally dippy. It's too overdramatic to really work on an emotional level for me.
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May 1, 2015 18:54
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It was never among my favorites because it is less sci-fi and more new agey. And shippers hated it because it indicated that Scully and Mulder were platonic soulmates.
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May 1, 2015 18:55
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joepinetree posted:It was never among my favorites because it is less sci-fi and more new agey. Yep Mulder's true soulmate was Glen Morgan's wife.
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bobkatt013 posted:Yep Mulder's true soulmate was Glen Morgan's wife. No it was that one Jewish vampire lady
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Mange Mite posted:No it was that one Jewish vampire lady No it's Dr. Bambi
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OldSenileGuy posted:No it's Dr. Bambi It's clearly the redheaded British woman from Fire man, did that episode blow
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Vintersorg posted:I dont even remember watching that episode ("The field..."). Disable auto watching!
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Bob Ojeda posted:It's clearly the redheaded British woman from Fire I thought it was Mimi Rogers?
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Field is pretty weird in that it just gets completely ignore. Like you would think with Triangle they would have brought it up since that has past live Scully and CSM
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Bob Ojeda posted:It's clearly the redheaded British woman from Fire A shame they never had Mark Sheppard back, though.
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May 1, 2015 19:59
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I had Field built up to me as one I probably wouldn't like, and while I'm pretty ambivalent on it, it's really, REALLY overdramatic. It's like a parody of Twin Peaks when everyone cries. Everyone's trying to swing for the fences.
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Bob Ojeda posted:It's clearly the redheaded British woman from Fire That lady was aggressively British. That's one of my biggest complaints (it's also one of my least favourite episodes) about that episode, that the British people are so British to the point where it's irritating. Wheat Loaf posted:A shame they never had Mark Sheppard back, though. In the X-Files Files episode they did mention how apparently a lot of extra Mark Sheppard stuff was cut out, which would have been interesting to see. Apparently there was a whole bunch of internal monologuing on his end (like how Scully was talking to the tape recorder about what the possible suspect would be like as the scene is following him) that was left on the cutting room floor. My favourite part of the episode however is how they throw out the backstory and motivation for him in one quick line before moving right on. "Oh yeah and also he was abductedbyasataniccultandburnedaliveasatoddler or some poo poo, now let's go X-Files'ing!" piratepilates fucked around with this message at 00:08 on May 2, 2015 |
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May 2, 2015 00:05
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joepinetree posted:It was never among my favorites because it is less sci-fi and more new agey. That's a big reason I disliked the late-season episode where they tried to retcon Samantha from being abducted by aliens to being taken away by walk-throughs or whatever those spirit angels were.
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Chairman Capone posted:That's a big reason I disliked the late-season episode where they tried to retcon Samantha from being abducted by aliens to being taken away by walk-throughs or whatever those spirit angels were. I never watched that far in to the show, was there any provided reason for why they decided to write this in? It really makes no sense in terms of the show, the mytharc, Fox, Samanatha, their father, their mother, CSM, or the overarching journey as to why that would be a good thing to include.
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She was still kidnap by aliens and the government but then she was kidnap by the kid angels to protect her from the abuse of the evil conspiracy or something. It was basically done so she could have kinda a happy ending and Mulder could cry.
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See, that episode didn't bother me as much - I think because it was possible to just regard the walk-in stuff as something that Mulder believed because it was important to him, less as a literal depiction of truth, and also because it provided closure to the Samantha storyline which was p much always bad.
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Paper Hearts was a pretty decent Samantha episode. I kinda liked all the "no paranormal or conspiracy stuff" episodes though there were so few of them. Its a good thing though there were so few of them.
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mr.capps posted:Paper Hearts was a pretty decent Samantha episode. I kinda liked all the "no paranormal or conspiracy stuff" episodes though there were so few of them. Its a good thing though there were so few of them. Oh, you're right, Paper Hearts was good. But other than that... especially any episode where she actually appeared as a clone or whatever. Just dumb.
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mr.capps posted:She was still kidnap by aliens and the government but then she was kidnap by the kid angels to protect her from the abuse of the evil conspiracy or something. Yeah, I thought she was killed by a serial killer who kidnapped her from the smoking man's house after she got cloned or whatever, but her soul was saved at the last minute by magical ghost children so she could frolic in forest glades. Kind of sucks for Mulder that his bland, Frank Grimes nemesis Spender was more of a brother to her than Mulder was, and that fucker didn't even seem to know she got killed or even like her or anything.
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Bob Ojeda posted:I really dislike the way that these big ideas that would have huge implications for the basic concept of the X-Files as a whole (Fox Mulder is the reincarnation of whoever and has this soulmate etc etc etc) are just tossed off in a random MotW episode and then forgotten about. The concept of the episode is just kind of too big and affects too much about the series to work. I also think it puts its thumb on the scale - it doesn't leave enough room for doubt about what's going on. Scully is immortal and they hardly mention that.
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They had a whole episode about it with this other weird old guy. And in the original episode they play it like Peter Boyle is just loving with her.
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That's roughly the same amount of screentime that the past lives got and and one of the two leads being immortal would arguably have a greater impact on the series. Ignoring that stuff is pretty common for episodic sci-fi even with the light serialization elements of the X-Files.
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piratepilates posted:That lady was aggressively British. As a British person, the acting/writing of the British characters in "Fire" is absolutely hilarious. Other than Mark Shepherd, it's one of the few things I enjoy about that terrible episode. Can't believe they ever even considered having Mulder ditch Scully for Phoebe full time. I've never seen two actors with less chemistry than Duchovny and that woman.
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Whenever I rewatch Fallen Angel I always expect to hear "Unmarked Helicopters" by Soul Coughing playing in Max's trailer, and I'm always a little disappointed when it isn't there(it's replaced with generic radio noises.) I guess either the band or the publisher withdrew permission to use it, I don't know. But it's kind of weird that except for off-air recordings from the time, there's no version of that episode with the song still in it. It wasn't on the VHS release, DVD or Netflix. Somehow they managed to clear every other song featured in the show apart from that one.
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Castle Radium posted:Whenever I rewatch Fallen Angel I always expect to hear "Unmarked Helicopters" by Soul Coughing playing in Max's trailer, and I'm always a little disappointed when it isn't there(it's replaced with generic radio noises.) I guess either the band or the publisher withdrew permission to use it, I don't know. But it's kind of weird that except for off-air recordings from the time, there's no version of that episode with the song still in it. It wasn't on the VHS release, DVD or Netflix. Somehow they managed to clear every other song featured in the show apart from that one. Are you sure about this? Last year I rewatched the whole show using the original DVD box sets and I'm almost positive I heard that song in that episode.
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"Unmarked Helicopters" is way later than season 1. I don't even think Soul Coughing was around in 1992.
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Jack Gladney posted:Is Nick Cave still in the where that guy puts Scully in his trunk? Still there in Ascension on Netflix.
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Castle Radium posted:Whenever I rewatch Fallen Angel I always expect to hear "Unmarked Helicopters" by Soul Coughing playing in Max's trailer, and I'm always a little disappointed when it isn't there(it's replaced with generic radio noises.) I guess either the band or the publisher withdrew permission to use it, I don't know. But it's kind of weird that except for off-air recordings from the time, there's no version of that episode with the song still in it. It wasn't on the VHS release, DVD or Netflix. Somehow they managed to clear every other song featured in the show apart from that one. I think it's in the other episode with Max. The two-parter with the plane crash in s4.
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Huh, I guess I really must be confused."Unmarked Helicopters" is in the series, but much later than I thought, in the season four episode "Max". But thing is, there really was a song playing in Max's trailer in the original broadcast - I remember it distinctly because the same song plays twice, first when Mulder goes in and finds Max having a seizure, and again right at the end after Max has disappeared. So what the hell was it, if not that? gently caress, I'm starting to doubt my own memory now. This is turning into some legit X-Files poo poo.  It was there, dammit! I heard it! Maelstache fucked around with this message at 18:20 on May 3, 2015 |
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Jack Gladney posted:"Unmarked Helicopters" is way later than season 1. I don't even think Soul Coughing was around in 1992. They were apparently around in 1992, but as far as I know "Unmarked Helicopters" was written for Songs in the Key of X and then used later on in the series.
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What's the widely considered "point of decline" for the series? I used to watch the show all the time and I thought the first movie was pretty awesome and set up the end-game for the mythology episodes but funny enough I kind of stopped watching the show after the movie. I've watched the first two seasons and half of the third again, so far and aside from a few mediocre episodes, contrivances (Oh hey, we missed each other's call by like one second a dozen times! HAW), and TV idiot logic (Why yes, I'll explore a dark room with an unknown monster in it by myself thankyouverymuch), I'm reminded at how solid the show was, especially the mythology episodes as the show went on. The string of episodes from season's two finale to the first couple episodes of season three are really freaking good.
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Why the gently caress does Tooms spend so much time crawling through poo poo pipes trying to pop out of toilets when he could get plenty livers out of peoples on the street? They write his episodes like the only way to get away with 5 murders in thirty years is to pick victims that are locked up so tight in their houses that the investigators will think that the murderer couldn't have possibly worked for the animal control dept. But of course Mulder starts pawing at the air vent as two seconds after he enters the crime scene. I mean, poo poo, if it's livers you want, I can get you five livers 2-Nite, and I don't even live in a densely populated like DC with plenties hobos. Oh, maybe he needs clean livers, you say? Well the show didn't say anything about that but I seen that dude licking road kill so that doesn't hold up. An then he in jail long enough for his old rats nest to be demolished and a goddamn skyscraper to be erected on it, all the while waiting to get Liver #5. But he don't hook that last liver the second he gets out? I don't think Tooms is eatin these things fresh. You'd think your Liver Meter would drop a bit while being incarcerated for however long it takes to throw up a building, and Mulder is possitive that Tooms is one liver shy of a paper-mâché rear end in a top hat. He must be saving them up. So where's he keep these livers? Ain't in the same potato cellar that Mulder and ol girl clean out; the one with 100 years of murder trophies on a lit table behind an unlocked door. If he had livers in the fridge they would go into evidence and he'd need to get all five over again after he started his work release. Old dude's spider-sense lead him to like thirty goddamn livers in jars over his law-enforcement career, which he still keeps to hand out as a gift whenever a pretty FBI agent visits him in the group home. So like, maybe Stretch stores the livers in old Vlassic jars until he has all five and enough copies of the Times and then eats all the livers before puking up a hammock in a dirty basement. So you'd think that as soon as he was released, dude would run over, yoink his offsite hidden stash, and pick up a hobo on the way. Outta jail at noon, by night be in the cocoon. But what does this guy do? Spends better than a goddamn week playing Roto-Rooter and touching the hell out of everybody's window sills.
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After the movie is the first decline to a plateau of several seasons. The last season with Duchovny is another drop, after that is a sharp decline. The last season is abominable.
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Jimbot posted:What's the widely considered "point of decline" for the series? I used to watch the show all the time and I thought the first movie was pretty awesome and set up the end-game for the mythology episodes but funny enough I kind of stopped watching the show after the movie. I've watched the first two seasons and half of the third again, so far and aside from a few mediocre episodes, contrivances (Oh hey, we missed each other's call by like one second a dozen times! HAW), and TV idiot logic (Why yes, I'll explore a dark room with an unknown monster in it by myself thankyouverymuch), I'm reminded at how solid the show was, especially the mythology episodes as the show went on. The string of episodes from season's two finale to the first couple episodes of season three are really freaking good. I'd put it at the end of season 6, when the Syndicate is mostly killed off. The following three seasons have their moments but the extended mythology is aimless and has no reason to exist.
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