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How are you going to vote on May 7th?
This poll is closed.
Conservative 72 6.22%
Labour 410 35.41%
Liberal Democrat 46 3.97%
UKIP 69 5.96%
Green 199 17.18%
SNP 121 10.45%
DUP 0 0%
Sinn Fein 35 3.02%
Plaid Cymru 20 1.73%
Respect 3 0.26%
Monster Raving Loony 56 4.84%
BNP 23 1.99%
Some flavour of socialist party 37 3.20%
Some flavour of communist party 27 2.33%
Independent 3 0.26%
Other 37 3.20%
Total: 1158 votes
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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Phoon posted:

If you want to keep the UK together and in the EU the safest vote is labour - even if they are reliant on the SNP for support they have made it clear they will not compromise on a referendum and the SNP are claiming they won't demand one -

This makes sense - the SNP are currently trying to cement themselves as a permanent multi issue party and not a single issue one, and they lost the referendum recently enough that it will play badly in the media if they demand another so soon.
They stand to benefit from steering well clear of eu referendum issues because any firm commitment from westminster either way could be leveraged into another scotindyref so long as they're not too strident in support or opposition to an eu ref.

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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Phoon posted:

If you want to keep the UK together and in the EU the safest vote is labour - even if they are reliant on the SNP for support they have made it clear they will not compromise on a referendum and the SNP are claiming they won't demand one -

This makes sense - the SNP are currently trying to cement themselves as a permanent multi issue party and not a single issue one, and they lost the referendum recently enough that it will play badly in the media if they demand another so soon.
They stand to benefit from steering well clear of eu referendum issues because any firm commitment from westminster either way could be leveraged into another scotindyref so long as they're not too strident in support or opposition to an eu ref.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Pissflaps posted:

Your vote is like your virginity: do not give either away lightly.

A political party first let me cast my vote for them when I was underage. :smuggo:

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

hookerbot 5000 posted:

Good. I don't care about royalty but seeing newspaper articles talking about whether or not she should induce was annoying me. The end of pregnancy is crap enough with just your friends and family asking why you haven't popped yet - never mind the associated press of an entire country.

Problem is that it'll be a front page news item right before the election and I have a feeling that 'new royal baby' is going to boost Conservative votes and/or force Labour to make some really cringy comments which pisses off their voters.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Despite all the opprobrium the current scots tuition fee set up has generated in the thread, it's by its nature a temporary sticky-plaster.
Either they were going to get independence and have to cancel the fees for UK students. Or now that that's failed to happen, the fees will fall over the next couple of parliaments back in line with Scotland the rest of the EU. 4 years now we've had them cut since the £9k was introduced and hasn't been uplifted with inflation. Now Labour are jumping ahead with a ⅓ cut to £6k. This downwards trend will continue.

hyper from Pixie Sticks
Sep 28, 2004

Rakosi posted:

A Labor/SNP coalition hasn't been ruled out

Ummm...

Ed Miliband, March 16th posted:

Labour will not go into coalition government with the SNP. There will be no SNP ministers in any government I lead

Rakosi posted:

because Ed is full of poo poo and will bargain at the earliest chance he gets to take No. 10, in spite of everything he has said so far.

Ah, Ed's lying. You'd best vote for a leader who will keep his promises after the election. How about that nice Mr Camero...


Out of curiousity, why do you spell the party's name Labor? Aside from the natural Tory inclination to justify anything with 'gently caress U', that is.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

OwlFancier posted:

So, the NUS supports extending the free education policy to residents of the rest of the UK?

I get that they won't campaign for it in the rest of the UK on account of, obviously, being NUS Scotland, but they do support the idea?

Yeah, free education is NUS policy. Labour Students don't like it, and historically, never have. There's a twenty-year old EDM about an NUS President who suspended his Vice-President for opposing him changing the NUS policy from free education to supporting Labour's plan: one Jim Murphy.

Peven Stan posted:

So apparently Millibrand is out there scaremongering and telling people he's not going to form a coalition with the SNP while the SNP's own internal documents show that they're ready to buddy up if needed. Is that standard for UK politics for Labour to be little bitches about a potential coalition?

Happens a lot of time at council level. Calderdale Labour spent about eighteen months bitching about the Lib Dems and screwing over the independent councillor who was giving them supply and confidence (including proposing to put him out of business by way of roadwork disruption!), and then had the temerity to be shocked when both of them voted to bring the administration down.

TinTower fucked around with this message at 10:35 on May 2, 2015

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

It's funny this didn't get picked up on but the manchester central UKIP candidate tweeted then deleted an image that said "gently caress the immigrants"

http://www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/content/010573344-fck-immigrants-manchester-ukip-candidate-slammed-supporting-offensive-tweet

The image came from 4chan

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

a pipe smoking dog posted:

It's funny this didn't get picked up on but the manchester central UKIP candidate tweeted then deleted an image that said "gently caress the immigrants"

http://www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/content/010573344-fck-immigrants-manchester-ukip-candidate-slammed-supporting-offensive-tweet

The image came from 4chan

Weirdly, Power is one of the few UKIP candidates to have signed the Non-Binary Pledge.

Still a shitbag, though.

(I find it funny that more UKIP candidates than Tory candidates have signed a pledge for trans rights)

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

TinTower posted:

Weirdly, Power is one of the few UKIP candidates to have signed the Non-Binary Pledge.

Still a shitbag, though.

(I find it funny that more UKIP candidates than Tory candidates have signed a pledge for trans rights)

My understanding from people that know him is that he's a libertarian (hence the supporting trans rights, and reading 4chan I guess) and as such is just a bit of an idiot. Stopped clock and what have you.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

TinTower posted:

Weirdly, Power is one of the few UKIP candidates to have signed the Non-Binary Pledge.

Still a shitbag, though.

(I find it funny that more UKIP candidates than Tory candidates have signed a pledge for trans rights)

A cynical attempt to appeal to voters in a demographic whose issues mean nothing to them, and a means on insulating themselves against accusations of bigotry. :|

Inazuma
Jun 20, 2005
I've got a question about my postal vote. I've not posted mine off yet, is it too late to post it or will I have to take it along to the polling station on the 7th?

lmaoboy1998
Oct 23, 2013

namesake posted:

Problem is that it'll be a front page news item right before the election and I have a feeling that 'new royal baby' is going to boost Conservative votes and/or force Labour to make some really cringy comments which pisses off their voters.

Maybe Kate, The People's Jasmine Princess, tactically timed this baby to protect us from Red Ed and the SNP? Brave. Inspiring

I wish death on every adult Royal and I'm hoping she has a miscarriage

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

lmaoboy1998 posted:

I'm hoping she has a miscarriage

wow rude

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

lmaoboy1998 posted:

Maybe Kate, The People's Jasmine Princess, tactically timed this baby to protect us from Red Ed and the SNP? Brave. Inspiring

I wish death on every adult Royal and I'm hoping she has a miscarriage

That's not a cool thing to post.

kapparomeo
Apr 19, 2011

Some say his extreme-right links are clearly known, even in the fascist capitalist imperialist Murdochist press...
Even if it was all at the maximum rate of £9000 p.a., at the SNP could generate 60,000 free university places at the stroke of a pen by using their powers in the Scottish Government to raise the Scottish Variable Rate and progressively generate over £500M.

The SNP have demonstrated their commitment to social democracy and progresssive politics by... not touching the income tax rate by so much as a farthing for their entire length in government. Huh.

kapparomeo fucked around with this message at 11:08 on May 2, 2015

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

kapparomeo posted:

The SNP have demonstrated their commitment to social democracy and progresssive politics by... not touching the income tax rate by so much as a farthing for their entire length in government. Huh.

Is the income tax rate a devolved issue?

According to what I can find, Scotland can only vary the basic rate, so they can't really raise taxes for the wealthy.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 11:12 on May 2, 2015

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

lmaoboy1998 posted:

Maybe Kate, The People's Jasmine Princess, tactically timed this baby to protect us from Red Ed and the SNP? Brave. Inspiring

I wish death on every adult Royal and I'm hoping she has a miscarriage

That's a bit strong mate, having it born next week and then having all hereditary privilege removed by a organised peoples movement is more what I'm hoping for.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

lmaoboy1998 posted:


I wish death on every adult Royal and I'm hoping she has a miscarriage

It wouldn't be a miscarriage it would be a still birth. Hoping that someone has to push the corpse of their highly anticipated and wanted child out of their body is a bit horrible.

And would probably lead to even more support of the royal family and the conservatives if that is even a thing that the royal baby was going to lead to.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

lmaoboy1998 posted:

I wish death on every adult Royal and I'm hoping she has a miscarriage

Wow you're an intensely lovely person aren't you.

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you
It's a(n alive) girl. Let's now head off the miscarriage derail.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
oh rupert



original claim in a big front page headline, retraction buried in small print half way through the paper

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

Is the income tax rate a devolved issue?

According to what I can find, Scotland can only vary the base rate.

Scottish parliament has the power to increase or decrease income tax by 3p in the £1 from the UK base rate. And it's never been used because actual progressive taxation powers would enable Holyrood to increase and decrease the different income tax bands independently.

lmaoboy1998
Oct 23, 2013
The miscarriage will probably save more lives, given we won't be paying for castle upkeep or having to redirect whole army units to protect them when they get a fake military job 18 years from now. pragmatism.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

LemonDrizzle posted:

oh rupert



original claim in a big front page headline, retraction buried in small print half way through the paper

Don't forget the headline being contradicted in the original article!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

LemonDrizzle posted:

oh rupert



original claim in a big front page headline, retraction buried in small print half way through the paper

this poo poo really needs fixing

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
All this blood orange cider has given me diabetes and prodromal schizophrenia.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jose posted:

this poo poo really needs fixing

"Newspapers are required to print corrections on the same page, in the same size text as the original inaccuracy" would be pretty funny.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

OwlFancier posted:

"Newspapers are required to print corrections on the same page, in the same size text as the original inaccuracy" would be pretty funny.

Thats exactly what I want.

The baby is also probably good news for labour since it keeps Miliband/Sturgeon off the front pages of most of them for a while

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

"Newspapers are required to print corrections on the same page, in the same size text as the original inaccuracy" would be pretty funny.

Should absolutely have been part of the outcome of Leveson. If you're going to put someone's picture on the front of your newspaper and basically declare him a murderer and then it turns out he was innocent, well, you should have him picture on the frontpage along with the words "Definitely not a murderer"

kapparomeo
Apr 19, 2011

Some say his extreme-right links are clearly known, even in the fascist capitalist imperialist Murdochist press...

forkboy84 posted:

Scottish parliament has the power to increase or decrease income tax by 3p in the £1 from the UK base rate. And it's never been used because actual progressive taxation powers would enable Holyrood to increase and decrease the different income tax bands independently.

More than that, under the Scotland Act 2012 the Scottish government can now vary income tax by up to 10p in the pound.

kapparomeo fucked around with this message at 11:41 on May 2, 2015

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
It's been a while since I've done anything by way of psephology but does anyone else find it odd how heavily people seem to be weighting ashcroft's polls? As far as I'm aware it's the first time constituency level polling has been used so widely on a national scale but it seems like most forecasters are embracing it even though it's relatively untested. As I'm not an expert though was wondering if anyone has an explanation/ a link to one.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

Should absolutely have been part of the outcome of Leveson. If you're going to put someone's picture on the front of your newspaper and basically declare him a murderer and then it turns out he was innocent, well, you should have him picture on the frontpage along with the words "Definitely not a murderer"
That or libel law reform so that people who aren't lords or Jimmy Savile can afford to sue the press, and people who aren't national newspapers are protected from being sued over a twitter slapfight.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


kapparomeo posted:

More than that. In addition to getting new borrowing powers and exclusive use of stamp duty revenue under the Scotland Act 2012 the Scottish government can now vary income tax by up to 10p in the pound.

You should update the Wikipedia page on the Scottish variable rate then.

And it's still not particularly progressive if we don't have the ability to change the various bands, only a change across all bands.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
I have a subscription to Majesty magazine so I knew this baby was due weeks ago.

ukle
Nov 28, 2005

forkboy84 posted:

Should absolutely have been part of the outcome of Leveson. If you're going to put someone's picture on the front of your newspaper and basically declare him a murderer and then it turns out he was innocent, well, you should have him picture on the frontpage along with the words "Definitely not a murderer"

It is if Labour get there way. Why do you think the Press have been after Labour more than ever before, as Milliband has said hes going to implement Leveson in full along with further additions.

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

forkboy84 posted:

You should update the Wikipedia page on the Scottish variable rate then.

And it's still not particularly progressive if we don't have the ability to change the various bands, only a change across all bands.

One can just imagine the howls of derision from their usual detractors if the SNP did in fact raise a blunt cross-band tax to fund university places.

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

a pipe smoking dog posted:

It's been a while since I've done anything by way of psephology but does anyone else find it odd how heavily people seem to be weighting ashcroft's polls? As far as I'm aware it's the first time constituency level polling has been used so widely on a national scale but it seems like most forecasters are embracing it even though it's relatively untested. As I'm not an expert though was wondering if anyone has an explanation/ a link to one.

I think it's a response to the fact that ultimately, uniform swing projections may often paint a misleading picture of what's going on. In the constituency-based FPTP system, voter responses in individual constituencies of interest (generally marginals) can give a better idea of what's likely to happen in a particular seat. I think in that respect it's both a supplement to nation-wide polling, but also perhaps a reflection of the fact that the number of political parties appearing throwing spanners in the works are making it harder to make effective guesses as to what's going to happen next week.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
The thing I don't understand is that she's had the baby today and it's apparently been growing inside her tummy for about nine months - so how did it get there in the first place?

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hyper from Pixie Sticks
Sep 28, 2004

Pissflaps posted:

I have a subscription to Majesty magazine so I knew this baby was due weeks ago.
If it was due weeks ago I'd have thought she'd be induced before now.

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