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I hated the sightlines on the Zipcar Prius I used to use occasionally, and I wouldn't want to have to pass someone on a 2-lane highway, but it seemed solid enough for city erranding. hov stickers sold more of them than fuel economy ever did in this part of the world, I suspect.
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I live in a place with above ground power lines, lots of trees, and a basement with a sump pump. Having a battery backup for that thing only seems nice, and the cost compares pretty favorably with an automatic failover generator setup (especially since I have a propane tank instead of a city gas line). Of course a marine battery and an electric pump as backup would be great, too, if only my sump were deep enough and I could get a stupid plumber to actually give me a quote instead of disappearing.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:oops crossed my wires with monkeymon and rates and job creators what's this about me creating jobs?
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uncurable mlady posted:Priuses are pretty acceptable driving appliances Except for the Prius sedan, which removes the usefulness of the Prius and replaces it with a big dose of bland ugly. Why the gently caress did Toyota make a Prius sedan? Why did anyone buy it?  "Hmm, a car like this would be good for me. I don't want the cargo capacity of the priu s hatchback but the incompetent styling and uselessly small trunk really appeal to me." - a loving poo poo for brains moron who shouldn't be trusted with guarding a hole to make sure they don't fall in
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 Piece of loving poo poo. Look at the lovely styling that tries to say "GREEN" with the... andlges or something and UTTERLY FAILS because they dumped the back end of a toyota echo or w/e on there. The tiny spoiler that they tried to attempt to make the car look appealing with but actually looks like the car got hung up on a hanging metal sheet rolling off the production line and hosed up. That little bit on the rear door that comes out and surrounds the window because toyota enginers couldn't be hosed to design anything more appealing or better than that. Burn it
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it's also a way to let people buy into the Tesla battery supply chain improvement program for 1/20th the cost of a baseline model S. he can't be upset about that prospect. also, tesla has great product design. seeing that in my garage every morning 
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atomicthumbs posted:
that sure is a car
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jetz0r posted:that sure is a car it's literally the only quality it has
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teslas are very pretty and i want one
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:teslas are very pretty and i want one They're fun to drive.
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atomicthumbs posted:it's literally the only quality it has i was gonna ask if regular car reviews guy did a review of the prius and then i realized i have internet on this thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ19Mdca7DY idk where he's going yet but i'm coming with
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eric posted:They're fun to drive. indeed, but the regenerative braking is super aggressive. definitely going to take some getting used to, during the test drive I turned it down to the less-aggressive setting because I couldn't get a sense of the actual braking with it going on.
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hybrids are stupid and diesel does everything better electric is cool unless your power is from coal/gas like most of the us
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Subjunctive posted:indeed, but the regenerative braking is super aggressive. definitely going to take some getting used to, during the test drive I turned it down to the less-aggressive setting because I couldn't get a sense of the actual braking with it going on. Yeah turn that poo poo off
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:hybrids are stupid and diesel does everything better even if it's generated from natural gas I think a modern EV wins. EVs apply more than half the energy they take from the wall to the wheels, and for gas engines it's less than 20% IIRC. this calculator (from tesla's site, to be sure) shows 60% of california's power coming from natgas, but still a 5x improvement in co2 emissions vs...an unspecified gasoline car.  (It's also not clear to me if the gasoline car is supposed to be net of the production/transportation energy costs of the gas itself. I'd assume so, because I'd count them if I were Tesla.)it is funny to me that our Kia, which I think cost a quarter of the model S, has cooled front seats and the model S doesn't. I guess remotely activating climate control is supposed to be the replacement for that, but man those cooled seats on a 32C day...
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even though coal is worse than gas (petrol), moving all the cars to coal generated electric is still a net decrease in emissions due to efficiencies of scale
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:hybrids are stupid and diesel does everything better diesel is dirty as gently caress and requires exotic emissions controls to even be street-legal in the u.s. HAIL eSATA-n posted:electric is cool unless your power is from coal/gas like most of the us natural gas burns a lot cleaner than gasoline or diesel co2 is not the only pollution to worry about
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i also believe it is the year 1980
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mishaq posted:what i got based on what the computer was telling me my average mpg was on highway trips, i get within 5-6 mpg in my normal non-hybrid full size sedan idt u get hybrids m8
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:teslas are very pretty and i want one
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:diesel is dirty as gently caress and requires exotic emissions controls to even be street-legal in the u.s. counterpoint: 
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theflyingexecutive posted:idt u get hybrids m8 an econo shitbox that weighs 2500 pounds should be able to get a lot better highway mileage than my full size sedan that weighs significantly more ityool 2015
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you're not going to make me feel bad about my car purchase before I even take delivery, but keep trying
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i'm assuming since we're discussing stock it's still food chat but i've never really loved pho because apparently i've never had good pho but holy poo poo i had some really good pho in atlanta it was loving nuts
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i'm assuming since we're discussing stock it's still food chat but i've never really loved pho because apparently i've never had good pho but holy poo poo i had some really good pho in atlanta it was loving nuts the word "stock" doesn't otherwise appear on this page, but pho is good and you deserve good pho so yay (are you having thread-identification problems again?)
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Subjunctive posted:the word "stock" doesn't otherwise appear on this page, but pho is good and you deserve good pho so yay no i was on page 353 and that looks close enough to page 363 so i thought it was the last page
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:no i was on page 353 and that looks close enough to page 363 so i thought it was the last page the good news is that red hat isn't a very detail-oriented company, so 
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Americans still buy SUVs and trucks and poo poo because we as a society have the collective memory of a goldfish dosed with LSD
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please don't insult goldfish
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Subjunctive posted:the good news is that red hat isn't a very detail-oriented company, so no wonder they seem so excited about me
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Subjunctive posted:the good news is that red hat isn't a very detail-oriented company, so lol uncurable mlady posted:Americans still buy SUVs and trucks and poo poo because we as a society have the collective memory of a goldfish dosed with LSD i swear to god if a man or woman on the street (especially k-street or wall street) could correctly answer what follows "those who cannot remember the past..." i would poo poo myself
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:no wonder they seem so excited about me they were excited about someone, but couldn't remember who
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uncurable mlady posted:Americans still buy SUVs and trucks and poo poo because we as a society have the collective memory of a goldfish dosed with LSD the people who keep buying trucks never stopped
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i'm reading this book on the topic of the rise of the suv in america recommended by tori cmos and it's v good http://www.amazon.ca/High-Mighty-Dangerous-Rise-SUV-ebook/dp/B001GXQOM8/
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tbh at least modern suvs are better on gas your average modern suv has city mileage better than highway mileage of the same general model 20 years ago
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:toyota lost money on every prius sold from 1997 to 2009 just want to point out that this something like a very expensive but highly effective marketing campaign for a product that came out in 2009 my dad bought a prius in 2011, because he test drove one in 2004 (when it was a $10k engine in a $10k car, or something like that) and was familiar with the brand.
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choose death
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Cold on a Cob posted:i'm reading this book on the topic of the rise of the suv in america recommended by tori cmos and it's v good dta read the 1 star reviews jetz0r fucked around with this message at 03:23 on May 3, 2015 |
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well, what do you mean by SUV? a huge dumb thing or "a slightly bigger hatchback but 6 inches higher"
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