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Murodese posted:“I don’t think it’s a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door.” But outside of marriage?
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"I don't think it's a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door. ... I think the people we accept should be coming the right way and not the wrong way. ... If you pay a people-smuggler, if you jump the queue, if you take yourself and your family on a leaky boat, that's doing the wrong thing, not the right thing, and we shouldn't encourage it." http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-11/burnside-an-unchristian-view-of-asylum-seekers/4123872
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May 3, 2015 08:51
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Jesus was pretty keen on the poor and the meek, not sure where the wealthy people who proactively seek out people smugglers fit in that general schema
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May 3, 2015 08:51
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Christianity basically built the pillar of martyrdom around being persecuted so running away really doesn't get you any brownie points
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May 3, 2015 08:52
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Murodese posted:“I don’t think it’s a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door.” We're talking refugees, we'll get to gay marriage later. e: hmm kind of beaten
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May 3, 2015 09:01
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Graic Gabtar posted:Since when did the campaign against domestic violence become an issue solely of the Left? I think what he's getting at is that Right-wingers beat their wives
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May 3, 2015 09:06
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Cartoon posted:I'm actually finding it hard to locate biblical support for "Jesus knew that there was a place for everything." Most of that sort of stuff is in the Old Testiment. http://biblehub.com/colossians/1-17.htm Colossians has this but it's not a very clear statement of NTATA's claim. The ponies aren't making me any less angry at these quotes. Also, I think this Cardinal Pell bloke needs to be drawn and quartered. I leave out the hung bit because that way the rest of it happens while he is alive.
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May 3, 2015 09:10
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The Catholic Church agreed with Tony and promoted him to Chief Scandal Coverer-upper instead.
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May 3, 2015 09:11
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Lmao I thought that abbott quote sounded familiar
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May 3, 2015 09:13
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katlington posted:"I don't think it's a very Christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door. ... I think the people we accept should be coming the right way and not the wrong way. ... If you pay a people-smuggler, if you jump the queue, if you take yourself and your family on a leaky boat, that's doing the wrong thing, not the right thing, and we shouldn't encourage it." Why does he say the same thing three times using slightly different words for everything he argues? Same message, three ways, none of them make what he's saying any better.
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May 3, 2015 09:43
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If Jesus was going to endorse anyone would it be the wealthy who escape persecution by underhanded means, or the teeming masses who suffer to be left behind?
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May 3, 2015 09:51
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After all for every rich person who people smuggles their way to freedom there are 10,000 poor people who have no choice but to suffer persecution.
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May 3, 2015 09:53
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Negligent posted:After all for every rich person who people smuggles their way to freedom there are 10,000 poor people who have no choice but to suffer persecution. You're right, we should send planes over for those guys too.
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May 3, 2015 09:58
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but Jesus knew not everyone is rich and selfish enough to people smuggle their way out of persecution. Tony Abbott knew it too, thats why he said everyone has their place and not everyone's place is to come to Australia
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May 3, 2015 10:01
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Jesus was all like, bless the poor! bless the meek! so if you're a rich gently caress who selfishly uses your money to escape persecution how much time do you think Jesus has for you?
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May 3, 2015 10:04
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wait a minute, if the asylum seekers on boats were rich wouldn't tony be rolling out the gold carpet for them checkmate negligailure
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May 3, 2015 10:06
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Murodese posted:wait a minute, if the asylum seekers on boats were rich wouldn't tony be rolling out the gold carpet for them Doesn't count, they'd have crazy foreigner money backed by drugs or governments. Not like the glorious Ozzie, sailing on the iron ore sea, with a northerly wind strait out of Gina's arse.
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May 3, 2015 10:14
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Laserface posted:Why does he say the same thing three times using slightly different words for everything he argues? The rule of three is a very common device in writing and rhetoric, Cicero was king of this and as a Roads Scrotum Abbott would have cribbed more than a little. Except it's supposed to be pairing three adjectives, nouns, or concepts - you're not supposed to just say the same thing three different times. They're supposed to build within a flow or be mutually strengthened by association, you lose impact if you just spew out an entire message then repeat it twice using different words. It's a real thing but he's an absolute moron and it's remarkable that he can still manage to gently caress up one of the most basic, well-understood techniques in oratory e: Also he's probably just fishing for a sound bite. Throw a bunch of different brainstormed slogans out and see which one the media likes - quantity over quality, especially when you know that the media is on your side. You're essentially saying "I know you gotta buy something from me at the end of the day, so here's about 15 different things, pick whichever one is going to make you less cranky, I don't care" Sulla Faex fucked around with this message at 10:27 on May 3, 2015 |
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May 3, 2015 10:24
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Negligent posted:If Jesus was going to endorse anyone would it be the wealthy who escape persecution by underhanded means, or the teeming masses who suffer to be left behind? Jesus isn't real, dude
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May 3, 2015 10:59
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God helps those who help themselves.
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May 3, 2015 11:08
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Jumpingmanjim posted:I would legit pay money to see Lee Lin Chin fight Andrew Bolt It's not Andrew Bolt, but you can at least pretend? http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/11/27/last-lee-lin-chins-fight-death-broadcast-battleground
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May 3, 2015 11:34
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Word cloud for April: 2015: JFM 2014: JFMAMJJASOND 2013: AMJJASOND April's top posts: Bifauxnen posted:GEE GOOD THING WE GOT RID OF THAT CARBON TAX THEN Sulla-Marius 88 posted:"I'm sorry if my words have upset you but I really do believe I've been made to feel unsafe in my mouth was falling out? Would you rather I drag myself to the temple and a degree with a whole bunch of his body out of life' rather than hand-waving it away as an objectively impossible task that shouldn't be my responsibility because I had a medical condition that directly stemmed from a medical complication?" Murodese posted:The nail in these guys' coffin was slammed home the instant the Greens would've been much improved if they had loudspeakers all over the camp that just played mortar explosion noises and HMG fire on repeat, for serious. Then just kick back and wait for the last several conferences, and literally nothing has changed except that we now imprison and torture children.
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May 3, 2015 11:38
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Calling bullshit, I don't think I've ever been that succinct or coherent
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May 3, 2015 11:48
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:Calling bullshit, I don't think I've ever been that succinct or coherent You said every single one of those words though not necessarily in that order
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May 3, 2015 11:51
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May 3, 2015 11:57
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Could y'all stop rising to Negligents bait, he's either serious and won't change his mind for anything, or trolling and won't change his tune for anything - in either respect the thread becomes infinitely more poo poo to read.
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May 3, 2015 11:58
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Urcher posted:Word cloud for April: Could I grab the script you use for these? Id love to see a wordcloud/post generator for the AFL thread.
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May 3, 2015 11:59
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Urcher posted:You said every single one of those words though not necessarily in that order How do you pick posters and then generate it? Do you just randomly generate it according to some measure of phrases of certain length separated by conjunctions?
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May 3, 2015 12:01
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tithin posted:Could y'all stop rising to Negligents bait, he's either serious and won't change his mind for anything, or trolling and won't change his tune for anything - in either respect the thread becomes infinitely more poo poo to read. Are you serious and won't change your mind for anything on some topics? In that case are you just making the thread infinitely more poo poo to read as well? Is the problem Negligent's posts or the fact you just don't like people posting that don't agree with you?
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May 3, 2015 12:06
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Graic Gabtar posted:Are you serious and won't change your mind for anything on some topics? It's amusing you're asking me of all people this considering I've changed positions based on arguments itt in the past. My position is malleable on many things, depending on the persuasiveness of the argument. I don't argue with Negligent because I don't see the point, the acrid nature of his arguments have driven good posters from this thread because he's stubborn and won't budge on anything (one need only look at the lawful vs legal argument from a year ago to realise this).
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tithin posted:It's amusing you're asking me of all people this considering I've changed positions based on arguments itt in the past. My position is malleable on many things, depending on the persuasiveness of the argument. I don't argue with Negligent because I don't see the point, the acrid nature of his arguments have driven good posters from this thread because he's stubborn and won't budge on anything (one need only look at the lawful vs legal argument from a year ago to realise this). Tithin how can you unironically beg people to stop replying to Negligent and then immediately reply to graic grabtar Do you smell toast? Try to lift your arms. Is there someone nearby who can help you?
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May 3, 2015 12:15
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tithin posted:It's amusing you're asking me of all people this considering I've changed positions based on arguments itt in the past. My position is malleable on many things, depending on the persuasiveness of the argument. I don't argue with Negligent because I don't see the point, the acrid nature of his arguments have driven good posters from this thread because he's stubborn and won't budge on anything (one need only look at the lawful vs legal argument from a year ago to realise this). Well I guess I wasn't lucky enough to be here for that debate. Must of been a hoot. There are some people here I don't respond to as I don't find them at all interesting or they are just completely abusive for no sensible reason. There are people that say they ignore me for whatever reason of their own. I don't mind being swayed or just being challenged as it you should let your views be validated. What does poo poo me is schoolyard grade posts saying, "don't talk to so and so" or "block so and so". People here seem to be smart enough to make their own choices or maybe they just don't like their own views being questioned.
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May 3, 2015 12:22
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Urcher posted:Word cloud for April: Why is "ANZACS" on there twice?
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May 3, 2015 12:24
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Graic Gabtar posted:Well I guess I wasn't lucky enough to be here for that debate. Must of been a hoot. I'll be honest, I had you on ignore until very recently - in part because of an extremely poor insult from yourself to me, and in part because I had you classed in the same position as negligent, who won't believe sources, regardless of impartiality. I only took you off a day or so ago.
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May 3, 2015 12:31
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Graic Gabtar posted:Is the problem Negligent's posts
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May 3, 2015 12:37
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tithin posted:I'll be honest, I had you on ignore until very recently - in part because of an extremely poor insult from yourself to me, and in part because I had you classed in the same position as negligent, who won't believe sources, regardless of impartiality. What did I say to you? From memory it was a pretty lovely framed argument about your job?
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May 3, 2015 12:40
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Graic Gabtar posted:What did I say to you? From memory it was a pretty lovely framed argument about your job? Nah, this was during the last months thread. I had made a comment about my kids having autism (as in, actual diagnosis - can't remember the context to the comment now though) and you responded with basically laughing and saying "well, I'm gonna go spend time with my normal kids now, see ya"
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May 3, 2015 12:41
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I thought we got somewhere towards the end of last month when some of the less regular posters showed up. At the very least that's encouraging, and we should try to keep up effort because people will read this.
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May 3, 2015 12:43
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OK. Well I'm kind of tuning him out at the moment because he's arguing about religion FFS. It may poo poo me but I'm not going to start posting that he should be blocked by everyone because he's banging about Jesus.
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