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Striking Yak posted:I saw someone explain this once after being asked why Batman is such a dick to Mr. Freeze in City. Basically, if Batman starts reasoning with people, they might get the idea that Batman is something that can be reasoned with. If Batman's not a total dick to everybody he meets, people might get the impression that he's human after all, rather than a terrifying, invulnerable embodiment of justice in the shape of a fist. I thought he was a dick to Freeze because he was literally dying and post-mindfucked by Ra's Al Ghul and Victor was trying to bargain with him. If he'd just given Batman the cure and then said "Btdubs, he kidnapped Nora, can you help me?" there's 0 doubt Batman would've helped him. Especially since you end up helping him anyway because Batman is good under all that jerk. It would've saved him an asswhooping and taken away an amazing boss fight from us, but it would've made more sense. The only villain I felt bad for was Ivy in Asylum. Then Batman was being 100% rear end in a top hat completely unprovoked and without any excuses.
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Batman took down Ivy because she was a crazy, dangerous person with superpowers hopped up on incredibly volatile experimental chemicals whose plants were shaking a whole island apart and threatening the lives of hundreds of people.
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You think Batman's an rear end in a top hat now, you've seen nothing yet. I had forgotten the depths of his dickishness in this game. I just spent 12 hours working on a thing today for a future video and I am looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
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wiegieman posted:Batman took down Ivy because she was a crazy, dangerous person with superpowers hopped up on incredibly volatile experimental chemicals whose plants were shaking a whole island apart and threatening the lives of hundreds of people. Obviously then, I meant before that. He was a dick when she was still locked up. Then once she was free he was a dick again. By the time she was hopped up on Titan and wreaking havoc, he had basically earned it. I'm anxious to see what could've possibly taken 12 hours to do.
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SonicRulez posted:Obviously then, I meant before that. He was a dick when she was still locked up. Then once she was free he was a dick again. By the time she was hopped up on Titan and wreaking havoc, he had basically earned it. What? No. Ivy's entire characterization is appearing innocent with good intentions to lure people into falling under her spell and making them a slave. She's tried a dozen and one times with Batman and he knows letting her out will only complicate the rest of the night. So he acts like a dick to shut her down so she knows it has no chance of happening, and keeps her right where she really belongs. If you think she wouldn't try the same poo poo, minus Titan, to take over Joker's dudes and ruin his night, then attack Gotham
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I'm not sure Ivy's a great example of unnecessary antagonism by Bats, at least in the Arkham series. Bruce was perfectly willing to let her hang out in her 'island' fortress in City since she wasn't hurting anybody there. He was a touch rough with Freeze at the museum but a later scene makes sense of it since Freeze drags his feet considerably when helping somebody whose name isn't Nora, at the PD Bats doesn't even KO Freeze, he just slaps some sense into him... recalling that slapping someone in a near impentrable metal exoskeleton takes a bit more effort than with a softer target. Really Bats is hardest on the nameless mooks in these games since most of his takedowns are downright malevolent and you do so many of them by end game. You pretty much cut a swath of terrified, broken bodies through Gotham's nobodies. I guess the player could be 'nice' and avoid all unnecessary combat while gently putting everyone to sleep on predator sections but where's the fun in that 
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I think the most sadistic stuff you can do in the Arkham Series is pull or throw mooks into those gaping pits in Arkham Asylum. You know, the same ones that kill Batman if you fall into them.
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Also remember the "thou shalt not kill" policy! It, apparently, only applies to supervillains
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There's a good one in Origins. On the predator map Wrecking Crew if you hit r1 and go up the gargoyle that's above you at start and look to your right you'll see a ladder connecting to a lower section. Put some gel there. If a dude climbs up and gets a face full of explosion he's flung waaaaay into the abyss. This section during storymode occurs when you're near the top of a bridge support and the thug hits water 
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hard counter posted:I'm not sure Ivy's a great example of unnecessary antagonism by Bats, at least in the Arkham series. Bruce was perfectly willing to let her hang out in her 'island' fortress in City since she wasn't hurting anybody there.
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I wouldn't put it past batman having some kind of sensors in his gauntlets that tell him precisely when they've lost consciousness and it's time to release the choke hold before you start inflicting brain damage. As far as Ivy, she's basically a nigh-immortal seductress. No-selling her is the only way to deal with her that isn't going to end terribly for one or both of you.
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Kurieg posted:I wouldn't put it past batman having some kind of sensors in his gauntlets that tell him precisely when they've lost consciousness and it's time to release the choke hold before you start inflicting brain damage.
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I have to say, I was way too excited by Alfred mentioning Christmas ham and not turkey, since ham is what we eat for Christmas in Sweden.
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Thesaya posted:I have to say, I was way too excited by Alfred mentioning Christmas ham and not turkey, since ham is what we eat for Christmas in Sweden. It's the traditional Christmas dish for most of Europe, if I remember correctly, and considered traditional in North America if used less often because Turkey's pretty common/cheap.
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I had no idea there was a traditional food choice for Christmas dinner.
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berryjon posted:"You have an accurate view of the problem. It's your solution that needs to be stopped." - Kidd Radd Kidd Radd was the coolest comic and yes, that is the best way to put it. Seriously, everyone read Kidd Radd. It is well worth the time. Night10194 fucked around with this message at 07:09 on May 3, 2015 |
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Lazy Bear posted:It's the traditional Christmas dish for most of Europe, if I remember correctly, and considered traditional in North America if used less often because Turkey's pretty common/cheap. Over here in the States, it's ham for Easter, turkey for Thanksgiving, and either or for Christmas, despite it becoming more popular to have brunch or a large breakfast instead of a nice dinner.
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I grew up in the US and ham was always a thing. Turkey is mostly something people obsess over for Thanksgiving and toss it into other meals as wanted. Christmas is usually the only time of year I have
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My family has both. A fair-sized turkey and a cottage roll. Man, now I want cottage roll.
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I think it's mostly a familial thing. We do ham for Easter, and turkey for Thanksgiving. If we're having Christmas at my sister's we do Ham, but my parents do Turkey. Regardless we always do Chilli on Christmas Eve for some reason.
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Miz Kriss posted:Over here in the States, it's ham for Easter, turkey for Thanksgiving, and either or for Christmas, despite it becoming more popular to have brunch or a large breakfast instead of a nice dinner. Ham for Easter? You celebrate the holiday where you're not supposed to eat meat with ham?
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Tiggum posted:Ham for Easter? You celebrate the holiday where you're not supposed to eat meat with ham? Err... What? Easter is the Christian party time.
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What? You're only not supposed to eat meat on Fridays during lent. Easter is a feast day of celebration.
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This would be an excellent conversation for some thugs to be having while breaking into a place right before Batman beats them up.
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We usually have ham for easter as well if we do anything special at all outside of maybe getting a chocolate bunny. And Christmas varies between ham or some slow cooked turkey(It was usually Ham until my Step Father decided to cut out red meats for a diet at one point and almost can't eat them now that he's off the diet. Though he makes exception for bacon because he couldn't give that up even if it fucks up his body due to its no longer liking red meat.) But a good Christmas ham is amazing.
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paragon1 posted:This would be an excellent conversation for some thugs to be having while breaking into a place right before Batman beats them up. With a ham.
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my dad posted:With a ham. Nah, by pelting them with cranberry sauce cans.
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Batman is a ham. Ham fisted.
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I want Arkham Knight to have just the inanest henchmen conversations. Like, a million different topics that have zero bearing on the subject at hand, interspersed with the usual low-brow henchman poo poo to keep us on our toes.
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wiegieman posted:I want Arkham Knight to have just the inanest henchmen conversations. Like, a million different topics that have zero bearing on the subject at hand, interspersed with the usual low-brow henchman poo poo to keep us on our toes.
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my dad posted:With a ham. bat ham
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Not to interrupt Christmas Batham talk, but I've got an update. GCPD Blue/Polsy Predator Challenge: Breaking In/Polsy with The Long Halloween Batman
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Miz Kriss posted:Over here in the States, it's ham for Easter, turkey for Thanksgiving, and either or for Christmas, despite it becoming more popular to have brunch or a large breakfast instead of a nice dinner. Here in Denmark it's either duck, ham, turkey, or a combination for Christmas. Duck seems like the most popular. Nalesh fucked around with this message at 11:25 on May 3, 2015 |
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Nalesh posted:Here in Denmark it's either duck, ham, turkey, or a combination for Christmas. Duck seems like the most popular.
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That SWAT fight. 
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Was that God Hand music you used during the SWAT fight?
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ZeButler posted:Was that God Hand music you used during the SWAT fight? Yes, yes it was. Broncobuster
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I'd personally have chosen this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSen7DRQWU Nalesh fucked around with this message at 12:07 on May 3, 2015 |
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Actually I think Branden was the SWAT commander in Year One as well. As I recall, Gordon recounts that his team once handled a protest in a park-and didn't even leave the statues standing. And clearly this is the objectively correct music for that fight:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAG-IS_Ntjg 
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my dad posted:That SWAT fight. I'm really impressed that he pulled that off without smoke bombing the entire group before jumping. Sadly on the new game plus modes they start giving the gunmen armor and you can't take down the lot of them nearly as easy.
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