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jivjov posted:Yup, I think at this point the only major DBZ thing that has not gotten an American release is Yo Son Goku Don't be surprised if it gets added to Dragonball Super's first season as a 'lost episode' or something on the bluray release.
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Thyrork posted:Isn't Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans also unreleased in the US? I assume since it has Cooler in, its not very big on the DBZ radar anyway. It got remade and included with Raging Blast 2 if I remember properly(Funimation really needs to stick it, Yo Son Goku, and Episode of Bardock on a DVD and release it here in the States, maybe include the first Bardock special and History of Trunks as well if they need to pad it out some more, even if those two already have DVD releases from Funimation)
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May 3, 2015 19:23
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I just had a crazy thought: what if the makers of Super decide to do something like what Futurama did and turn the movies into episodes of the season?
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May 3, 2015 20:08
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Goku, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, Kuririn and Vegeta: Japanese or Ocean voices Frieza: New Funimation voice The rest: Who cares? But...Ocean or Japanese probably. I grew up with Funimation, and I loving hate their voice actors apart from Schemmel and I especially hate their buttrock soundtrack. Honorable mention goes to the Mexican dub they aired on Telemundo. It was pretty great too.
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May 3, 2015 21:25
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The buttrock totally betrays the tone of Dragonball in like 90% of the situations, but I suppose it speaks volumes about Dragonball that it can remain good despite that.
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May 3, 2015 21:30
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The real problem with the old Funi soundtrack is the same problem as pretty much every other dub-original soundtrack from that era: It's totally tone-death and feels the need to fill every second with instrumental flourishes lest the audience lose interest in the show due to more than a second going by without any music.
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May 3, 2015 21:54
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The japanese soundtrack for dbz is bad as are the grandma voices
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May 3, 2015 22:25
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The Faulconer soundtrack is better but they play it too loud and often. I imagine that the Super dub will be more restrained.
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May 3, 2015 22:30
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Ruggington posted:The japanese soundtrack for dbz is bad I disagree on the soundtrack. I absolutely agree on the grandma voices. Even I, who am usually really pro-sub, can't take Dragon Ball in Japanese at all entirely because of Nozawa's Goku. The right choice is the Latin American dub no matter what, but when that's not avaliable, I prefer to stick with the English voices.
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May 3, 2015 22:30
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Sean Schemmel's Goku is like half my childhood and Faulconer's Soundtrack is  . Suck it it weaboos, dub forever.
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May 3, 2015 22:32
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Blaze Dragon posted:I disagree on the soundtrack. I absolutely agree on the grandma voices. Even I, who am usually really pro-sub, can't take Dragon Ball in Japanese at all entirely because of Nozawa's Goku. Nozawa playing Goku, Gohan, Goten, and Bardock is so loving dumb. Like it makes sense enough when the characters are kids but come on. The Japanese score I could give or take, Faulconer would be ideal but I can handle its absence.
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May 3, 2015 22:34
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*vegeta powers up his planet-eradicating garlic gun* *japanese soundtrack cues up the sound of a cartoon dinosaur comically falling over*
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May 3, 2015 22:36
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I can tolerate the japanese dub but it feels like fake prototype early access dragonball where they haven't worked out all the bugs
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May 3, 2015 22:36
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Ruggington posted:*vegeta powers up his planet-eradicating garlic gun* tbf he turns into a giant monkey soon after
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May 3, 2015 22:37
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Neo_Crimson posted:Sean Schemmel's Goku is like half my childhood and Faulconer's Soundtrack is Yeah, I gotta say, the first time I saw Battle of Gods it was subbed, and I only thought it was "okay." Once I watched it dubbed, I thought it was "loving hilarious and awesome." I really can't stand how high-pitched Goku sounds in Japanese. Also this scene is way better with the Faulconer score  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdEbG49_Zkc
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May 3, 2015 22:38
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:tbf he turns into a giant monkey soon after this is a very serious situation that requires very serious synth-filled buttrock
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May 3, 2015 22:44
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Is the Latin American dub available on the internet anywhere? I want to listen to it despite knowing less than zero Spanish because everybody says it's awesome.
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May 3, 2015 22:48
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Yeah, the Faulconer score is generally quite good, it's just not always used well. Take a look at Freeza and Cell's death, for instance - they both use the Ginyu Body Change leitmotif while the baddies are getting blown up, but it works way worse for Cell because Vegeta's theme is playing as Vegeta distracts Cell, then Gohan freaks out and finally starts to overpower him all while the music build - and then the music just slam-cuts to the Ginyu music out of nowhere without even trying to stay with the choreography. poo poo like that really lets the music itself down a bit.
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May 3, 2015 22:49
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Spiritus Nox posted:Yeah, the Faulconer score is generally quite good, it's just not always used well. Take a look at Freeza and Cell's death, for instance - they both use the Ginyu Body Change leitmotif while the baddies are getting blown up, but it works way worse for Cell because Vegeta's theme is playing as Vegeta distracts Cell, then Gohan freaks out and finally starts to overpower him all while the music build - and then the music just slam-cuts to the Ginyu music out of nowhere without even trying to stay with the choreography. poo poo like that really lets the music itself down a bit. Alternatively, that was dope.
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May 3, 2015 22:54
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Szmitten posted:Alternatively, that was dope. Yeeeah, its good music, but i agree with Spiritus Nox. Faulconer's score was poorly used in the show, but its still good! It wouldn't have hurt to have an occasional moment of quiet for atmosphere when it suited the scene!
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May 3, 2015 23:00
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I really wish they'd bring his music back for Super, with the benefit of hindsight they'd be better able to fit the score to the action and even drop it when it's not needed. But it's never gonna happen, I wouldn't doubt that Toei has a contract in place that says Funi needs to use the original music, so we're gonna be stuck with whatever they end up using.
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May 3, 2015 23:18
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Xad posted:Also this scene is way better with the Faulconer score If by "better" you mean "a thousand times more cringe-worthy", then yes you are correct.
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May 3, 2015 23:23
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Augus posted:If by "better" you mean "a thousand times more cringe-worthy", then yes you are correct. I dunno I thought it was synced up pretty well, even if the song doesn't work out right for the alternating tone of the scene.
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May 3, 2015 23:25
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What happened to Faulconer anyway? Did he do anything after DBZ? Any reason why he wasn't called in to do another soudntrack for Kai?
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May 3, 2015 23:27
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Let's just cut the pretense and get Team Four Star to do all the dubbing, it's what the people (the good people) want anyway
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May 3, 2015 23:27
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Neo_Crimson posted:What happened to Faulconer anyway? Did he do anything after DBZ? Any reason why he wasn't called in to do another soudntrack for Kai? Likely just the fact that re-scoring anime soundtracks kind of fell out of fashion after the 90's with all the dubbing studios that had half a brain behind them (aka not 4kids)
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May 3, 2015 23:29
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Xad posted:Yeah, I gotta say, the first time I saw Battle of Gods it was subbed, and I only thought it was "okay." Once I watched it dubbed, I thought it was "loving hilarious and awesome." I really can't stand how high-pitched Goku sounds in Japanese. Also this scene is way better with the Faulconer score I didn't really like any of the old dbz movies but this is like one of my top moments in all of DBZ 
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projecthalaxy posted:Let's just cut the pretense and get Team Four Star to do all the dubbing, it's what the people (the good people) want anyway Most of the VAs dubbing the new stuff are phenomenal, I love TFS but it's not really fair to have a handful of people come in to replace more actors who are doing a great job.
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May 3, 2015 23:34
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I dunno I thought it was synced up pretty well, even if the song doesn't work out right for the alternating tone of the scene. It doesn't match the tone of the scene period. It's just a 12-year old's idea of "how do I make this scene 10 times more epicer?" The Falconer soundtrack as a whole is mediocre at best. Yeah there are a handful of highlights that fans will never let you forget because they'll keep making videos where they use them to make every scene from every anime more epicer, but all-around it's mostly just dull ambience. The only appeal I really see in it is nostalgia for a better age where dubbing companies didn't really care about the source material or quality assurance and also didn't really think much of the audience.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I dunno I thought it was synced up pretty well, even if the song doesn't work out right for the alternating tone of the scene. He couldn't just let the part of the scene where Bulma freaks out on Beerus/Bills be silent? The build up didn't fit in at all. Vegeta powering up was pretty epic though.
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Xad posted:Yeah, I gotta say, the first time I saw Battle of Gods it was subbed, and I only thought it was "okay." Once I watched it dubbed, I thought it was "loving hilarious and awesome." I really can't stand how high-pitched Goku sounds in Japanese. Also this scene is way better with the Faulconer score Nah, it doesn't fit the tone of the film at all. The Bruce Faulconer score worked best for Cool Serious Scenes but not for light hearted stuff like BoG
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Augus posted:It doesn't match the tone of the scene period. It's just a 12-year old's idea of "how do I make this scene 10 times more epicer?" I think that's really unfair. Nostalgia is a factor for a ton of people but I think Falconer's score does a lot for intense scenes. Sure the Japanese score works, but the way Falconer uses synth really complements the way you're supposed to feel the energy crackle off of these characters when they let loose. The Japanese score doesn't have any of that quality, if you ask me. Drowning Rabbit posted:He couldn't just let the part of the scene where Bulma freaks out on Beerus/Bills be silent? The build up didn't fit in at all. Vegeta powering up was pretty epic though. Well it's an edit, but the editor should have cut the music at that part. It's really dumb. Arsonist Daria fucked around with this message at 23:44 on May 3, 2015 |
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May 3, 2015 23:38
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Augus posted:a better age where dubbing companies didn't really care about the source material or quality assurance and also didn't really think much of the audience. Say what you will about other dubs at that time period but I think that's a really unfair thing to say about Funimation Dragon Ball.
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May 3, 2015 23:43
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FeedingHam2Cats posted:The Bruce Faulconer score worked best for Cool Serious Scenes but not for light hearted stuff like BoG Yes, thank you. The Faulconer score is terrible outside of the "epic scenes". The loving "joke music" tracks they would use during any kind of light hearted scene was so bush league even when I was like 12. Kai is so good in part because they use the Japanese soundtrack. This is what I'm talking about, and you hear this like four times a week at least on Toonami: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsUJ_k3-1QE (around 10 seconds into the video)
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May 4, 2015 00:10
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tbh I generally prefer the dub soundtrack but it can be used pretty poorly
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May 4, 2015 00:21
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Forgot how bad Frieza voice was in the older dub. So used to his newer voice from Kai and Xenoverse. Do like Abridged Frieza a lot in tone, but sometimes the lines reminds me of Stewie from Family Guy and that just bugs me.
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May 4, 2015 00:27
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I really really dig the newer Schemmel, starting from when they re dubbed the old vanilla Z going forward, and from Kai on he's been loving phenomenal. I also love love love Sonny Strait as Krillin. I like Sabat's Piccolo but I really do not like his Vegeta. I never have and I don't think I will. It's been much better ever since he made it his own, but Ryo Horikawa's smooth rich rear end in a top hat voice makes the character. So my magical ideal dub would basically be the current Funi cast but with Japanese Vegeta's voice. If that makes me a weeaboo then so be it.
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May 4, 2015 00:48
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I mostly like Schemmel because he/Funi give Dub Goku more classically heroic delivery and lines, which make him seem a bit less like a creepy, punch-obsessed man-child. And, I mean, he's drat good at the punchy screamy bits too.
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May 4, 2015 00:54
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I accidentally ignored a phone call from Sean Schemmel once and I pray to his altar for forgiveness everyday
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Bunch of weebs itt complaining about faulconers good soundtrack and gokus manly dub voice
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