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Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VemrhM9Y35M

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utamaru
Mar 8, 2008

BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP
Thanks to anyone who recommended katanagatari. It was great, but I watched all twelve in a row and now I am super bummed out.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

utamaru posted:

Thanks to anyone who recommended katanagatari. It was great, but I watched all twelve in a row and now I am super bummed out.

The ending kinda bummed me out, I didn't really understand why he ended up traveling with the princess

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Razzled posted:

The ending kinda bummed me out, I didn't really understand why he ended up traveling with the princess

It's the other way around, Hitei is following him. Her motives are kinda inscrutable but it's probably to do with a sense of responsibility toward him as a descendant of Shikizaki. In turn he lets her tag along as a gesture of forgiveness, demonstrating that he's finally ready to accept Togame's dying wish for him.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Is there anything out there like Satoshi Kon's work? I just burned my way through Paranoia Agent and I've seen all of his movies.

Coaaab
Aug 6, 2006

Wish I was there...

Lord Lambeth posted:

Is there anything out there like Satoshi Kon's work? I just burned my way through Paranoia Agent and I've seen all of his movies.
Some of his manga has been licensed in English, you could look into that.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Is Ben-To as much dumb fun as it sounds?

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Yes. Also comes with a killer soundtrack by way of Taku Iwasaki.

linall
Feb 1, 2007

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Is Ben-To as much dumb fun as it sounds?

If Ben-To is anything it is extremely dumb and extremely fun. There may well be no other way to describe the show.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

linall posted:

If Ben-To is anything it is extremely dumb and extremely fun. There may well be no other way to describe the show.

That's all I want from a show about fighting over discount noodles :allears:.

Linx
Aug 14, 2008

Pork Pro
I almost hate to admit it, but I watched the first season of High School DxD based solely on the fact it has pretty good ratings (I wonder why), and actually ended up enjoying it quite a bit. With that said, is there anything similar that anyone thinks I would enjoy?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Linx posted:

I almost hate to admit it, but I watched the first season of High School DxD based solely on the fact it has pretty good ratings (I wonder why), and actually ended up enjoying it quite a bit. With that said, is there anything similar that anyone thinks I would enjoy?
the other seasons of high school dxd

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Linx posted:

I almost hate to admit it, but I watched the first season of High School DxD based solely on the fact it has pretty good ratings (I wonder why), and actually ended up enjoying it quite a bit. With that said, is there anything similar that anyone thinks I would enjoy?
Aside from the gazongas, what specifically did you enjoy? In a vacuum the most similar thing I can think of is Ichiban Ushiro no Daimou, which has similar supernatural stuff at a school (and also tits).

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

Lord Lambeth posted:

Is there anything out there like Satoshi Kon's work? I just burned my way through Paranoia Agent and I've seen all of his movies.

Makoto Shinkai

Linx posted:

I almost hate to admit it, but I watched the first season of High School DxD based solely on the fact it has pretty good ratings (I wonder why), and actually ended up enjoying it quite a bit. With that said, is there anything similar that anyone thinks I would enjoy?

Tokyo Majin for more supernatural highschool action, Desert Punk for more Shonen with titays.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Linx posted:

I almost hate to admit it, but I watched the first season of High School DxD based solely on the fact it has pretty good ratings (I wonder why), and actually ended up enjoying it quite a bit. With that said, is there anything similar that anyone thinks I would enjoy?

Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere.


El Estrago Bonito posted:

Makoto Shinkai


Tokyo Majin for more supernatural highschool action, Desert Punk for more Shonen with titays.

Also Triage X. It's four episodes in on Funimation, I believe, and AnimeLab (if you're Australian).

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I'm not sure what is similar about them, other than "both made anime movies." Kon's style and themes were pretty distinct/unique for anime films which is why losing him was such a big loss.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

El Estrago Bonito posted:

Desert Punk for more Shonen with titays.

Worth noting that Desert Punk is Gonzo, and as such is pretty good for 2/3rds and then the last disk is utter and irredeemable trash.

Linx posted:

I almost hate to admit it, but I watched the first season of High School DxD based solely on the fact it has pretty good ratings (I wonder why), and actually ended up enjoying it quite a bit. With that said, is there anything similar that anyone thinks I would enjoy?

Trashy but fun? Try Seikirei. It's pokemon but what if the pokemon.... were chicks with huge cans?! The first season is particularly 'good', I enjoyed the second season as well but it is much much MUCH lewder.

Maken-ki is also kinda fun in the same vein as DxD but more focus on said cans and the second season is completely irrelevant bullshit. Also the OVAs are pretty much just excuses to be softcore pornography.

DamnGlitch fucked around with this message at 15:47 on May 2, 2015

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

This is a dumb recommendation. Kon and Shinkai stuff are nothing alike.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Despite being really cliche shounen, Katekyo Hitman Reborn has something really charming about it. I think it's a combination of some really effective character designs/personalities and the humor.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Ytlaya posted:

Despite being really cliche shounen, Katekyo Hitman Reborn has something really charming about it. I think it's a combination of some really effective character designs/personalities and the humor.

Reborn was decent circa the Varia arc. The comedic stuff at the beginning was hit-or-miss, the Mukuro arc and the beginning of the Future arc were mediocre, and the after the notorious real six Funeral Wreaths reveal it's all crap.

Some of the characters had potential, but character development is inexplicably reset at regular intervals (which is actually worse than the One Piece approach of characters not developing much at all). The manga is worse than the anime because the mangaka is bad at panel composition during fights (everyone using color-coded masses of flame in a black-and-white comic doesn't help). The power levels just stop making sense entirely post-Future arc. Also, despite being written by a woman, KHR is sexist even by the standards of its genre.

The character designs are all right, though.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

ViggyNash posted:

This is a dumb recommendation. Kon and Shinkai stuff are nothing alike.

They both do really emotional character study movies and are without a doubt two of the best anime filmmakers of the last fifteen years or so. Shinkai hasn't ever done anything in the same vein as Perfect Blue or Paranoia Agent, but if you like Paprika, Tokyo Godfathers and Millennium Actress I think you'd also really like Place Promised Us, Children Who Chase Voices and 5cm/s. I think their strength is that they both build visually impressive films and have characters with a ton of emotional depth and resonance.

If you define your media only by genre content then, yeah, Kon did mostly movies about "real" settings (except for Paprika and his as of yet unseen final film) while Shinkai is solidly in the Science Fiction/Fantasy camp.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
Shinkai is solidly in the hypermelodramatic camp.

Kon's work is snappier and more much more absurd and comedic.

Linx
Aug 14, 2008

Pork Pro

DamnGlitch posted:

Worth noting that Desert Punk is Gonzo, and as such is pretty good for 2/3rds and then the last disk is utter and irredeemable trash.


Trashy but fun? Try Seikirei. It's pokemon but what if the pokemon.... were chicks with huge cans?! The first season is particularly 'good', I enjoyed the second season as well but it is much much MUCH lewder.

Maken-ki is also kinda fun in the same vein as DxD but more focus on said cans and the second season is completely irrelevant bullshit. Also the OVAs are pretty much just excuses to be softcore pornography.

Trashy but fun is actually a really great way of putting it! Thanks for your suggestions and to everyone else that replied, I'll give them all a go.

linall
Feb 1, 2007

El Estrago Bonito posted:

They both do really emotional character study movies and are without a doubt two of the best anime filmmakers of the last fifteen years or so. Shinkai hasn't ever done anything in the same vein as Perfect Blue or Paranoia Agent, but if you like Paprika, Tokyo Godfathers and Millennium Actress I think you'd also really like Place Promised Us, Children Who Chase Voices and 5cm/s. I think their strength is that they both build visually impressive films and have characters with a ton of emotional depth and resonance.

If you define your media only by genre content then, yeah, Kon did mostly movies about "real" settings (except for Paprika and his as of yet unseen final film) while Shinkai is solidly in the Science Fiction/Fantasy camp.

They both make good movies, and possibly aim for similar themes, but equating them like this is really weird. Kon's movies have a completely different feel, they're a whole lot more bombastic. Shinkai seems to be completely incapable of making something with the same level of energy. Or even getting in the same ballpark. All his stuff feels very meditative. Which is fine, but really quite different from what Kon did. Equating them quality-wise is a mistake to my mind as well. Shinkai makes good films, Kon made masterpieces. If you follow Paprika with Children Who Chase Lost Voices, Children is not going to come out favorably in the inevitable comparison.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012
I think Shinkai's real claim to fame is the cinematography and art direction and his movies. His stuff is some of the most beautiful things to ever be animated. Unfortunately, he's kind of a terrible and uninspired writer, and I didn't like any of his movies/miniseries besides Voices of a Distant Star - probably only for the novelty of it - and Children Who Chase Lost Voices a bit.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I'd go as far as to say that Children Who Chase Lost Voices is kind of a bad movie. It felt like a hollow imitation of a Ghibli adventure with no actual charm to make you want to be on said adventure in the first place. The rest of his filmography has more or less retreaded the same themes and beats as Voices of a Distant Star with only the animation really improving, to the point where Garden of Words is breathtaking to watch but completely stale and listless in all other aspects.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
i'll fight all of you shinkai haters at once

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

I like his themes and his movies.

Except Children Who Chase Lost voices which was super boring and my feelings about it are pretty much exactly the same as Nate RFB's.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Nate RFB posted:

I'd go as far as to say that Children Who Chase Lost Voices is kind of a bad movie. It felt like a hollow imitation of a Ghibli adventure with no actual charm to make you want to be on said adventure in the first place. The rest of his filmography has more or less retreaded the same themes and beats as Voices of a Distant Star with only the animation really improving, to the point where Garden of Words is breathtaking to watch but completely stale and listless in all other aspects.

Eh, I thought of it as a half-decent non-Ghibli Ghibli movie. At least it was different from his other stuff.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

if you want good non-ghibli ghibli movies (lol) you're better of watching a letter to momo or hosoda's movies which all do that shtick way better than shinkai's emotionally empty work

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Davincie posted:

if you want good non-ghibli ghibli movies (lol) you're better of watching a letter to momo or hosoda's movies which all do that shtick way better than shinkai's emotionally empty work

Hey, I never said it was better than a Hosoda movie, just that it was half-decent for what it was.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Silver2195 posted:

Reborn was decent circa the Varia arc. The comedic stuff at the beginning was hit-or-miss, the Mukuro arc and the beginning of the Future arc were mediocre, and the after the notorious real six Funeral Wreaths reveal it's all crap.

Some of the characters had potential, but character development is inexplicably reset at regular intervals (which is actually worse than the One Piece approach of characters not developing much at all). The manga is worse than the anime because the mangaka is bad at panel composition during fights (everyone using color-coded masses of flame in a black-and-white comic doesn't help). The power levels just stop making sense entirely post-Future arc. Also, despite being written by a woman, KHR is sexist even by the standards of its genre.

The character designs are all right, though.

I agree that pretty much all of the actual plot, power-ups, and most of the main character's fights (though some of the side characters have good ones) are pretty bad. All the stuff with the boxes and rings in the Future Arc was painfully dumb and completely out of nowhere; I'm guessing it had something to do with selling toys in Japan. I'm not actually sure what I enjoy about it beyond the art/characters* and the humor (I actually liked a lot of the comedic stuff at the beginning).

It sounds like you haven't read the arc after the whole Future arc. It's really just more of the same, though there's a super bizarre reveal and Deus Ex Machina (not referring the the powers Tsuna gets) at the very end.

*I like pretty much everyone in Tsuna's "family" except Tsuna himself. His refusal (in words only) to join the mob throughout literally the entire series gets really old really fast.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
Shinkai is hit and miss for me. I thought Voices of a Distant Star was trite and inane, but 5 Centimeters Per Second is one of my favorite animated movies.

Everything else I've seen by him is alright but hasn't really stuck with me.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Bad Seafood posted:

Shinkai is hit and miss for me. I thought Voices of a Distant Star was trite and inane, but 5 Centimeters Per Second is one of my favorite animated movies.

Everything else I've seen by him is alright but hasn't really stuck with me.

But 5cm/s is mostly the same as all his other stuff. Albeit it has a nice structure and is one of his best looking movies, but ultimately samey and disappointing.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
If you liked Voices of a Distant Star, there's a manga adaptation of it which I liked better than the anime.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Voices of a Distant Star was done better when it was called Gunbuster.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.

ViggyNash posted:

But 5cm/s is mostly the same as all his other stuff. Albeit it has a nice structure and is one of his best looking movies, but ultimately samey and disappointing.
I am okay with the insinuation that Shinkai just tells the same story over and over again with the understanding that he finally got the formula right in 5 Centimeters.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Bad Seafood posted:

I am okay with the insinuation that Shinkai just tells the same story over and over again with the understanding that he finally got the formula right in 5 Centimeters.

Nope. The only time he got it right was the first time, imo.

My problem with 5cm/s is that instead of a buildup to a climax, is felt bizarrely like an anti-buildup to a non-climax. The whole narrative just felt so pointless by the end, because absolutely nothing was accomplished. Unless or course I'm totally missing the point of the movie. If so, someone please explain it because it makes no sense to me.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
The point is people drift apart, and that's okay. Dude's childhood friend is moving away, and he spends a significant portion of his youth pining for his lost love instead of pursuing new relationships. Meanwhile, another girl takes an interest in him, but their relationship goes nowhere because he's still thinking about "Her" while the new girl can't stop thinking about "Him" even though she knows it's one-sided.

At the end of the film when he thinks he sees his lost love and turns around and the trains speed past, blocking his view, he stands there waiting for them instead of moving on (with his life). When the trains disappear, of course, there's no one there. He was waiting for nobody. He spent all that time waiting for nobody. Finally he smiles, for what seems like the first time since he and his childhood friend parted ways, and moves on.

Watching 5 Centimeters as somebody who's been through that kind of thing - getting bogged down over a relationship that's already over at the expense of forging new ones - it became an incredibly important movie to me.

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ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Bad Seafood posted:

The point is people drift apart, and that's okay. Dude's childhood friend is moving away, and he spends a significant portion of his youth pining for his lost love instead of pursuing new relationships. Meanwhile, another girl takes an interest in him, but their relationship goes nowhere because he's still thinking about "Her" while the new girl can't stop thinking about "Him" even though she knows it's one-sided.

At the end of the film when he thinks he sees his lost love and turns around and the trains speed past, blocking his view, he stands there waiting for them instead of moving on (with his life). When the trains disappear, of course, there's no one there. He was waiting for nobody. He spent all that time waiting for nobody. Finally he smiles, for what seems like the first time since he and his childhood friend parted ways, and moves on.

Watching 5 Centimeters as somebody who's been through that kind of thing - getting bogged down over a relationship that's already over at the expense of forging new ones - it became an incredibly important movie to me.

Thanks for explaining it. I definitely understood the general gist of it, but not nearly so thoroughly. But even so, I think it was a pretty bland story and it didn't resonate with me at all. I guess the idea and the central theme is fine, but the means by which they were conveyed were mechanical and lifeless.

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