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Under the vegetable posted:Spoilers, if it's Hillary vs a Republican, you're voting for both banks AND wars no matter what you do. When do you believe we will invade Iran and will you toxx on it
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Venom Snake posted:Are people really that upset by Clinton they would throw their vote away? Because it's like the most immature temper tantrum thing to throw your vote away because the candidate you liked in the primary lost. Trends have shifted to the right. Obama was much more to the right than Bill was, and Hillary will likely be even moreso if she gets the presidential seat.
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Segmentation Fault posted:I'd vote for Philip Banks if he was running https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vg7ZAaR7AU
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Under the vegetable posted:Trends have shifted to the right. Yes, trends have shifted to the right since the literal death of Communism.
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computer parts posted:When do you believe we will invade Iran and will you toxx on it I'll absolutely toxx on the fact that Hillary will, if President of the United States, enter into meaningless illegal wars, i'm sorry, military actions, with other nations on trumped up pretext, much like Obama. I don't know if it will be Iran and won't dream of trying to call specifics.
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computer parts posted:Yes, trends have shifted to the right since the literal death of Communism. I'm glad we can agree that Venom Snake is incorrect on the direction of political drift of the Democratic Party of the United States.
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Under the vegetable posted:Trends have shifted to the right. Obama was much more to the right than Bill was, and Hillary will likely be even moreso if she gets the presidential seat. how can you actually believe this
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Under the vegetable posted:I'm glad we can agree that Venom Snake is incorrect on the direction of political drift of the Democratic Party of the United States. I mean if you're totally ignorant about what the actual trends in the 1990s were I can see why you would think that.
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Vermin Supreme is not the president America wants. But the president it deserves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE
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Hillary is legit actually saying poo poo her own Husband did was wrong, and things that Obama are doing is wrong because it's not leftist enough. Gay marriage is gaining popularity nation wide. Stop being so pessimistic.
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bernie is good, hillary is bad
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Segmentation Fault posted:bernie is good, hillary is bad pee pee doo doo it is a bad electoral system
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computer parts posted:I mean if you're totally ignorant about what the actual trends in the 1990s were I can see why you would think that. moderate southern Democrats losing their seats in the early 1990s spurring a brief, one-off shift to the left is not indicative of an overall trend but sure, whatever.
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Venom Snake posted:Hillary is legit actually saying poo poo her own Husband did was wrong, and things that Obama are doing is wrong because it's not leftist enough. Gay marriage is gaining popularity nation wide. Ah, gay marriage, the one true signifier of leftist policy. She also wants abortion to be safe, legal, and as uncommon as possible. What a progressive.
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Venom Snake posted:Are people really that upset by Clinton they would throw their vote away? Because it's like the most immature temper tantrum thing to throw your vote away because the candidate you liked in the primary lost. Yup. Just ask President Gore. So many liberals threw their votes away on Nader trying to pull him left that they made his win in Florida questionable, and open to theft. Read this thread. These are the same drat kind of fools. They'll happily give us another Bush presidency than endure another Clinton who doesn't kiss their asses as often as they'd like.
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My problem with Clinton is that she's a war criminal and in the pocket of the banks.
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Under the vegetable posted:Ah, gay marriage, the one true signifier of leftist policy. She also wants abortion to be safe, legal, and as uncommon as possible. What a progressive. Hows the death penalty with American left? [legit question] Fluo fucked around with this message at 03:02 on May 4, 2015 |
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Under the vegetable posted:Trends have shifted to the right. Obama was much more to the right than Bill was, and Hillary will likely be even moreso if she gets the presidential seat. This is absolutely not true, wow. Do you really believe this?
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TEAYCHES posted:My problem with Clinton is that she's a war criminal and in the pocket of the banks. better not vote ever then.
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Fluo posted:Hows the death penalty with American left? Opposed if you ask outright but it's not a big topic nationally.
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TEAYCHES posted:My problem with Clinton is that she's a war criminal and in the pocket of the banks. And cattle futures too.
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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/02/28/clin-f28.html Clinton Foundation raked in cash from right-wing regimes, corporations By Tom Hall 28 February 2015 Wow look at this promising leftist progressive. I bet everything she says is the gospel truth, just like that guy Obama who implemented single-payer health care, rewarded and encouraged whistleblowers, eliminated all oil and gas tax loopholes, mandated that publicly traded financial partnerships pay the corporate income tax, closed loopholes in the corporate tax deductibility of CEO pay, created a national infrastructure reinvestment bank, started to tax carried interest as ordinary income, signed the employee free choice act to encourage unionization, barred corporations in bankruptcy from giving CEOs bonuses, prevented drug companies from blocking generics, required employers to provide at least seven paid sick days a year, expanded the Family Medical Leave Act to include reasons related to domestic violence or sexual assault, took nuclear weapons off hair trigger alert, etc etc im not listing every single lie but you get the idea
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Venom Snake posted:better not vote ever then. Wow, great argument. It's hosed up that we live in a world where we settle for unexciting oligarch war criminals.
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Fluo posted:Hows the death penalty with American left? [legit question] I don't know but I hate it and think it's barbaric.
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Under the vegetable posted:https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/02/28/clin-f28.html She's going to win, hope this helps. TEAYCHES posted:Wow, great argument. It's hosed up that we live in a world where we settle for unexciting oligarch war criminals. So go run.
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Under the vegetable posted:I'll absolutely toxx on the fact that Hillary will, if President of the United States, enter into meaningless illegal wars, i'm sorry, military actions, with other nations on trumped up pretext, much like Obama. I don't know if it will be Iran and won't dream of trying to call specifics. who can forget all those wars Obama got us into
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Nintendo Kid posted:She's going to win, hope this helps. no she wont
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Nintendo Kid posted:She's going to win, hope this helps. I am not old enough to run for President of the United States.
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spoon0042 posted:who can forget all those wars Obama got us into Libya is doing pretty well these days, if I recall correctly.
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don Jaime posted:Yup. Just ask President Gore. So many liberals threw their votes away on Nader trying to pull him left that they made his win in Florida questionable, and open to theft. Read this thread. These are the same drat kind of fools. They'll happily give us another Bush presidency than endure another Clinton who doesn't kiss their asses as often as they'd like. Hmmm, yes, tell us more how Ralph Nadar stole the election away from a wooden man that hired image coach after image coach to try to make himself seem like a human.
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TEAYCHES posted:I am not old enough to run for President of the United States. Didn't stop the PSL.
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. He's certainly not bad on race, but I definitely wish he was better. He is not trying to make a point, he is trying to poo poo up the thread. Stop reading his posts.
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TEAYCHES posted:Libya is doing pretty well these days, if I recall correctly. so one, maybe. still waiting on "meaningless illegal wars" (plural) "on trumped up pretext".
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Nintendo Kid posted:Didn't stop the PSL. Please don't follow the PSL's dumb example.
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Obama throws drones into Yemen and Pakistan....but it's disingenuous as hell to compare that to Iraq & Afghanistan
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Please don't follow the PSL's dumb example. No, people like him should definitely do that.
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spoon0042 posted:who can forget all those wars Obama got us into Who can forget all those american citizens Obama killed with drones, and who can forget the war without borders against IS, and who can forget his enthusiastic continuation of the Afghanistan conflict, who can forget the war in Somalia, who can forget the military actions in the Horn of Africa, who can forget the violation of promises made to not put troops on the ground in Mali, who can forget the expansion of Bush-authorized drone attacks in Pakistan on civilians, who can forget the 2014 Iraq intervention, who can forget firing 110 tomahawk missiles at Libya? You?
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visceril posted:Obama throws drones into Yemen and Pakistan....but it's disingenuous as hell to compare that to Iraq & Afghanistan The drones and the Afghanistan war were actually Good
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Nintendo Kid posted:No, people like him should definitely do that. People like me? You mean people who believe that we shouldn't support candidates who are bought and paid for by financial institutions and complicit in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people? I think it's sad that you believe that's a reasonable, mature, serious option.
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visceril posted:Obama throws drones into Yemen and Pakistan....but it's disingenuous as hell to compare that to Iraq & Afghanistan Yeah, it's disingenuous to connect Obama to his authorization of 17,000 new troops and expanded airstrikes in Afghanistan and his return of American troops to Iraq just four years after he announced we were out for good.
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