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PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

V. Illych L. posted:

there is if your enemies are orcs


how come

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ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


the world would be a better place without pamela gellar

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


also good morning new chat thread you've been busy it seems

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "

WoodrowSkillson posted:

Yeah the whole point of the Seige was Morgoth decides to bide his time and attempt to annihilate everyone in one fell swoop, the Seige was just the Noldor feeling good about themselves. He still misjudges and fails to completely subdue to Elves and Men during the Dagor Bragollach


V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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well they have short generations and really high fecundity

i'm not going to argue this point, though, because getting involved in the logistics of a four-hundred-year siege of a fantasy castle is not something i'm prepared to do today

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


Bless you chatthread

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

I mean I woud imagine this whole period was just kind of a celebratory grill-off where they all loitered around the foothills of thangorodrim eating hot-dogs and such

why interrupt it by doing work, much less waging tunnel warffare against mud people

V. Illych L. posted:

well they have short generations and really high fecundity


I thought they had to be manufactured from leftover elves

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
61 AD: war were declared

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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PupsOfWar posted:

I mean I woud imagine this whole period was just kind of a celebratory grill-off where they all loitered around the foothills of thangorodrim eating hot-dogs and such

why interrupt it by doing work, much less waging tunnel warffare against mud people


I thought they had to be manufactured from leftover elves

initially, yes, but there's a pretty direct reference to them somehow reproducing in the lost tales (i think) where the elves are considering whether humans are actually worth anything

they say something like "sure they're filthy mud people, but their reproductive ability is second only to the orcs"

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib
Orcs reproduce naturally, and Tolkien ended up not resolving where they came from. I personally like to synthesize all the possible origins (genetically engineered elves, genetically engineered humans, genetically engineered animals, minor maiar), but that's just me.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU
I never felt stranger than when I went for a sip of me tea and accidentally got the paper/string end stuck in my mouth.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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do you not brew your tea in a kettle

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "

Effectronica posted:

Orcs reproduce naturally, and Tolkien ended up not resolving where they came from. I personally like to synthesize all the possible origins (genetically engineered elves, genetically engineered humans, genetically engineered animals, minor maiar), but that's just me.

just pull a warcraft 3 and make them aliens

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

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Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

V. Illych L. posted:

do you not brew your tea in a kettle

It was in a cup.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

V. Illych L. posted:

well they have short generations and really high fecundity

i'm not going to argue this point, though, because getting involved in the logistics of a four-hundred-year siege of a fantasy castle is not something i'm prepared to do today

Its probably more enjoyable then work.

Also orcs may be immortal in the manner of the elves, it was never proven but its referenced a few times.

The ideology eater
Oct 20, 2010

IT'S GARBAGE DAY AT WENDY'S FUCK YEAH WE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT
The best meme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JneLm426_NQ

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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atm i'm bottlenecked by some text extraction being much slower than anticipated, so i have literally nothing to do except nerd it the gently caress up on the internet

i normally feel that being pedantic about fantasy logistics etc. is rather missing the point of mythological fantasy, which is that the siege of angband being four hundred years long is meant to illustrate a thematic point about evil rather than saying anything about the military engineering of a bunch of immortal aryans

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Funny, I'm not seeing doge anywhere.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

V. Illych L. posted:

atm i'm bottlenecked by some text extraction being much slower than anticipated, so i have literally nothing to do except nerd it the gently caress up on the internet

i normally feel that being pedantic about fantasy logistics etc. is rather missing the point of mythological fantasy, which is that the siege of angband being four hundred years long is meant to illustrate a thematic point about evil rather than saying anything about the military engineering of a bunch of immortal aryans

The less consequential the topic, the more fun an intense argument about it is.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

see- sports, goku vs superman (john cena), Noldorian logistics doctrine

The ideology eater
Oct 20, 2010

IT'S GARBAGE DAY AT WENDY'S FUCK YEAH WE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT
I was wrong it's definitely this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmqOV4JkRcs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8XfV8aPAyQ

The ideology eater
Oct 20, 2010

IT'S GARBAGE DAY AT WENDY'S FUCK YEAH WE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT

WoodrowSkillson posted:

see- sports, goku vs superman (john cena), Noldorian logistics doctrine

my favorite is definitely batman v superman because you get to pick between american aryan supermensch and trust fund kid who beats up poor people

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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LorrdErnie posted:

my favorite is definitely batman v superman because you get to pick between american aryan supermensch and trust fund kid who beats up poor people

uh superman has dark hair he is clearly no true aryan :colbert:

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Presumably at some point Alan Dershowitz gets tagged as something other than "renowned civil rights lawyer" in articles. Renowned possessor of every stereotyped septuagenarian Jewish man's opinion that is normally followed by a dismissive gesture and "feh!"

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

LorrdErnie posted:

my favorite is definitely batman v superman because you get to pick between a illegal alien masquerading as anamerican aryan supermensch and trust fund kidjob creator who beats up poor people

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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that whole "trust fund kid" thing is why Arrow is so funny, it's a literal frat boy trust fund babby billionaire who runs around killing people

they should have gone further with the whole "rich people are the problem" theme, but otherwise it's all good

oliver queen being so intensely unlikeable is one of the best parts of that series

Sinnlos
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about believing in magical rainbow gold

Who is the best superhero?

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Sinnlos posted:

Who is the best superhero?

john constantine imo

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Sinnlos posted:

Who is the best superhero?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puwllq0fBLs&t=9s

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "

Sinnlos posted:

Who is the best superhero?

Luke Cage duh

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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best part about this dude is that he's a flaming homosexual with the most flamboyant boyfriend in the world

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Sinnlos posted:

Who is the best superhero?

Socialist Red Guardsman


PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 14:07 on May 4, 2015

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

ReindeerF posted:

Presumably at some point Alan Dershowitz gets tagged as something other than "renowned civil rights lawyer" in articles. Renowned possessor of every stereotyped septuagenarian Jewish man's opinion that is normally followed by a dismissive gesture and "feh!"

die schvarzes think they better than us!

Sinnlos
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about believing in magical rainbow gold

I was thinking Black Panther but all of these are solid picks.

The ideology eater
Oct 20, 2010

IT'S GARBAGE DAY AT WENDY'S FUCK YEAH WE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT

Sinnlos posted:

Who is the best superhero?

clearly hancock as portrayed by will smith

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Sinnlos posted:

I was thinking Black Panther but all of these are solid picks.

How come a panther always has to be black with you?

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

God I can't wait for the conservative reactions when disney/marvel starts promoting a movie called "Black Panther"

will be worth it even if the film is bad (probably will be)

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

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Shiki Eiki
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PupsOfWar posted:

God I can't wait for the conservative reactions when disney/marvel starts promoting a movie called "Black Panther"

will be worth it even if the film is bad (probably will be)

I hope it's played by Tim Meadows.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Ughhhhhhhhh

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Did Melkor have a silmaril at that time, I don't remember. During the siege.

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