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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Focusing on new initiative spending being lower is also a nice way to highlight how much less your government is doing.

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

This is why I like hone

kaiwero
Aug 22, 2006

Slavvy posted:

I know next to nothing about this gloriavale stuff but Isn't the guy in charge a convicted sex offender?

I think it was the previous leader, when they were based in Canterbury. After the arrests etc they moved to the West Coast to distance themselves / start again.

door.jar
Mar 17, 2010

open24hours posted:

they're on an ancient phone and I can't get them off.

Yeah, getting things over 12 years old off isn't really a thing for Gloriavale.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Vagina Jones posted:

I think it was the previous leader, when they were based in Canterbury. After the arrests etc they moved to the West Coast to distance themselves / start again.

Pretty sure he served his sentence, changed his name and is back in the middle of the community.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012


ftw

Vagina Jones posted:

I think it was the previous leader, when they were based in Canterbury. After the arrests etc they moved to the West Coast to distance themselves / start again.

The guy who founded them back in the 60s is still the leader.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Any Western Springs College alumni here? The school has been trying to complete a rebuild project since 2011 (when I did a practicum there), with almost all buildings bar the S Block near the back of the school badly in need of either renovations or a total rebuild. They were promised the financial resources by the MoE, but officials have dragged their feet since, and it is now at the point where the board and parents have told Ministry officials to go gently caress themselves. The straw that broke the camel's back has been the Ministry's decision to omit the full rebuild from the list of options to be presented to cabinet, despite the fact that it had been made clear by the community that that was their preferred option, and the now broken promises that were evidently made by officials that it would be included in the list of options.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/68207960/school-rebuild-delays-cause-anger-at-western-springs

edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 22:00 on May 2, 2015

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
The Re-Judithing

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Exclamation Marx posted:

The Re-Judithing

I guess Audrey Young has been talking to her, then.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11441957

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.


she has no shame and I'm glad of it

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.


:whitewater: all round

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
I once wondered 'What is it that drives the national party to treat the public like children and then gently caress them in the rear end?'.

I now know the answer to my question :stonk:

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

It's OK guys, Key singling out a woman for repeated harassment was not sexist because he could have been tugging on a bloke's ponytail, presumably while having a beer with him.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/68235578/john-key-ponytail-pull-not-sexist

Leospeare
Jun 27, 2003
I lack the ability to think of a creative title.

Vagabundo posted:

It's OK guys, Key singling out a woman for repeated harassment was not sexist because he could have been tugging on a bloke's ponytail, presumably while having a beer with him.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/68235578/john-key-ponytail-pull-not-sexist

I could've been groping a guy! I didn't, but I could have!

I could've been catcalling at a handsome dude! Sure, it was a lady this time, but you don't know, maybe next time I'll pick a guy and tell him he's got nice legs!

Just because I paid my female employees less than male employees, that doesn't mean anything! Hypothetically I could have paid them more! It's possible! It could happen!

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I haven't watched all the footage of me touching hair but all I can say is it's a world where you touch things. No biggie.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

"At the end of the day, the average Kiwi voter blah blah blah."


I have been thinking about why this has picked up so much traction, and it's really the first thing that Key has actually been directly implicated in. Even all the Dirty Politics stuff was about people around him being involved and Key was only just skirting the borders of it (although, to be honest, if you're perpetually surrounded by people who are doing dirty poo poo "without your knowledge," then you're either naive, ignorant or lying - none of which are qualities that should be present in a head of state IMO). Sooner or later, you're still going to start to smell like poo poo if you surround yourself with it.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

"I didn't mean to be", "it wasn't the intent", etc is the same defence as always in cases of sexism or racism. That's why he didn't stop when she told him to, or when his wife told him to, and actually only realised she didn't like it when he confirmed with her (male) co-worker. Nah, not sexist.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
The other bad stuff has been incremental, we haven't had big austerity cuts or anything. So it's apolitical (or less political) things like being a hair-touching weirdo, or if he was to push hard against public opinion with the flag, that kinda stick in the public consciousness.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Ben Rachinger has put a bunch more stuff up on his blog since it was last linked here.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Are the subsequent chapters written any better than the earlier ones?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

mirthdefect posted:

Are the subsequent chapters written any better than the earlier ones?

https://medium.com/@benrachinger/the-hacker-and-all-the-pms-men-part-eleven-2f3322a0b22a

This one is worth reading. He says he's 'time-pressed' but it's the most readable entry yet.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

mirthdefect posted:

Are the subsequent chapters written any better than the earlier ones?

He alleges that he was paid to hack The Standard, but still appears to be an innocent lamb stumbling through the world of Dirty Politics
https://medium.com/@benrachinger



Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Exclamation Marx posted:

He alleges that he was paid to hack The Standard, but still appears to be an innocent lamb stumbling through the world of Dirty Politics
https://medium.com/@benrachinger





That was pretty strenuously denied by Farrar:

quote:

I was not the organiser of the party, and was not a party to the conversation. Yet Hager published this as fact. It is reasonably defamatory as various people have smeared me over it.

I did attend a party in 2011 in Palmerston North held the day before a party conference. I was not the organiser. I invited two friends along, of similiar age to myself. Off memory it was called a Princess Party, because the Royal Wedding was occurring around then. As a Republican, I’m an unlikely organiser.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/08/how_hager_got_it_wrong_on_the_princess_party.html

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


mirthdefect posted:

Are the subsequent chapters written any better than the earlier ones?

He's deaf apparently, on top of being an uber nerd, so I doubt it.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Ratios and Tendency posted:

He's deaf apparently, on top of being an uber nerd, so I doubt it.

It does actually make sense that his writing would actually be a bit off because of that, due to the quirks in NZ Sign. I guess his writing style comes off as a bit odd because English wouldn't actually be his first language.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

"As a Republican"




He's an American now?

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

"As a Republican"




He's an American now?

As in nz should become a republic. You know, rather than a vassal state of an empire that died three centuries ago officially ruled over by an inbred and provably mentally deficient monarchy.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Infotainment! posted:

As in nz should become a republic. You know, rather than a vassal state of an empire that died three centuries ago officially ruled over by an inbred and provably mentally deficient monarchy.

But then we'd have to get new money and a new national anthem and actually write up some kind of binding legal document for the people in the country.

More effort than it's worth

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

But then we'd have to get new money and a new national anthem and actually write up some kind of binding legal document for the people in the country.

More effort than it's worth

As if John Key doesn't have drawers full of song lyrics about how rad he is and note designs featuring his face. The tppa already took care of the last problem.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Is the joke that he didn't deny going there for the purpose of date-raping-late-teen-to-twenty-somethings, or am I missing something?

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

But then we'd have to get new money and a new national anthem and actually write up some kind of binding legal document for the people in the country.

More effort than it's worth
What about a flag?

The Sin of Onan
Oct 11, 2012

And below,
watched by eyes of steel
we dreamt

Infotainment! posted:

As in nz should become a republic. You know, rather than a vassal state of an empire that died three centuries ago officially ruled over by an inbred and provably mentally deficient monarchy.

The British Empire died three centuries ago?

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

The Sin of Onan posted:

The British Empire died three centuries ago?

Yes.

newtestleper
Oct 30, 2003

The early 1700's? Please explain your unique yet strongly held views on this subject

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

newtestleper posted:

The early 1700's? Please explain your unique yet strongly held views on this subject

Maybe he's a dog, around 1945ish could be 300 in dog years.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Vagabundo posted:

It does actually make sense that his writing would actually be a bit off because of that, due to the quirks in NZ Sign. I guess his writing style comes off as a bit odd because English wouldn't actually be his first language.

Nah he's just a bad writer. Deaf people write just fine, its not like written and spoken English are much alike at all.

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

newtestleper posted:

The early 1700's? Please explain your unique yet strongly held views on this subject
The independence of the United States was the death blow (60 ish years isn't too bad for internet hyperbole), the body just writhed around for a bit on the way out.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

Infotainment! posted:

The independence of the United States was the death blow (60 ish years isn't too bad for internet hyperbole), the body just writhed around for a bit on the way out.
Because it's not like they still controlled India and significant parts of China or anything.

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whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

Because it's not like they still controlled India and significant parts of China or anything.

Death blow.

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