terrible programmers: my god, it's full of chars

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware/Software Crap > YOSPOS > terrible programmers: my god, it's full of chars

«‹›1446 »

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Snapchat A Titty posted:

no u

but is there a less ugly way to write this?
Swift code:
if costSoFar[next] == nil || newCost < costSoFar[next]! { ... }

Swift code:


if let cost = costSoFar[next] where newCost < cost { ... }

# ? May 5, 2015 18:26

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 26, 2024 09:41

VikingofRock: Aug 24, 2008

DimpledChad posted:

so my company is planning to scrap its lovely php codebase and rewrite the product using a better language/platform. yay! only thing is, i think my boss wants to use go. i know that the terrible programmers here have a general antipathy towards go, and i'm inclined to agree. does anyone have any good articles/arguments i can use to make the case to the higher-ups for why we should not use golang?

edit: it's obviously still a lot better than PHP, so it's a win-win i guess. still, might as well try.

I think the main problem people have with Go is the lack of generics. How much will that affect you? I've actually heard it's a decent language otherwise.

# ? May 5, 2015 18:30

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

fleshweasel posted:

Swift code:

if let cost = costSoFar[next] where newCost < cost { ... }

ty but that isnt the same

i need like this, either the key isnt there, or it is, but its val is larger than newCost:

code:

if (!costSoFar.hasKey(next) || newCost < costSoFar[next]) {

# ? May 5, 2015 18:45

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

Valeyard posted:

grab your junk and shout "program this" and walk away

# ? May 5, 2015 18:57

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Snapchat A Titty posted:

no u

but is there a less ugly way to write this?
Swift code:
if costSoFar[next] == nil || newCost < costSoFar[next]! { ... }

C# code:

double nextCost;
if(costSoFar.TryGet(next,out nextCost) && newCost < nextCost )
{
	//stuff
}

# ? May 5, 2015 19:11

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

Shaggar posted:

C# code:

double nextCost;
if(costSoFar.TryGet(next,out nextCost) && newCost < nextCost )
{
	//stuff
}

cute joke, but you made the same mistake fleshweasel did in comprehending what the code actually does

# ? May 5, 2015 19:21

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

which is even less understandable; how do you see || and write &&?

# ? May 5, 2015 19:21

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

anyway, no, OP, the way you wrote it is pretty much fine for the particular case you are presenting

maybe there is a way to not be in the situation which produces a desire for that conditional in the first place, but if you need to perform that check then the code you wrote is fine

# ? May 5, 2015 19:24

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

comedy

Swift code:

if newCost < (costSoFar[next] ?? Int32.Max) { ... }

i don't know if that compiles and you shouldn't do it if it does

# ? May 5, 2015 19:26

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Dessert Rose posted:

cute joke, but you made the same mistake fleshweasel did in comprehending what the code actually does

oh lol. yeah.

# ? May 5, 2015 19:26

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Oh i got it! this works:

if newCost < (costSoFar[next] ?? Int.max) {

e: I guess great minds &c

# ? May 5, 2015 19:28

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Dessert Rose posted:

comedy
Swift code:
if newCost < (costSoFar[next] ?? Int32.Max) { ... }
i don't know if that compiles and you shouldn't do it if it does

it compiles & works so im just gonna put a //lol and move on, maybe fix it later when i dont have time

# ? May 5, 2015 19:31

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Shaggar posted:

C# code:

double nextCost;
if(!costSoFar.TryGet(next,out nextCost) || newCost < nextCost )
{
	//stuff
}

there u go.

# ? May 5, 2015 19:31

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

its me, im the terrible programmer

# ? May 5, 2015 22:56

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Im using Java and I just don't understand why any programmer would choose to program in an object oriented language without interfaces and generics

# ? May 5, 2015 23:42

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

Im using Java and I just don't understand why any programmer would choose to program in an object oriented language without interfaces and generics

I miss generics so much

# ? May 5, 2015 23:50

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

Im using Java and I just don't understand why any programmer would choose to program in an object oriented language without interfaces and generics

interfaces arent pythonic

incidentally every time I read the word pythonic in context im more convinced its just a synonym for "stupid"

# ? May 6, 2015 00:08

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

St Evan Echoes posted:

interfaces arent pythonic

incidentally every time I read the word pythonic in context im more convinced its just a synonym for "stupid"

Rubyist

# ? May 6, 2015 00:40

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

What do you guys use to do like design diagrams / umls?? Like omni graffie??

# ? May 6, 2015 00:41

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

St Evan Echoes posted:

interfaces arent pythonic

incidentally every time I read the word pythonic in context im more convinced its just a synonym for "stupid"

it's just a way of saying "i don't like that" but in a way more annoying manner

# ? May 6, 2015 00:43

Deacon of Delicious: Aug 20, 2007; I bet the twist ending is Dracula's dick-babies

that is a good question I would also like to know the answer to

# ? May 6, 2015 00:44

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

shards of glass, the blood of the fallen, tender naive flesh

# ? May 6, 2015 00:44

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

python is pretty bad

# ? May 6, 2015 00:44

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

how does one represent a monad in uml?

# ? May 6, 2015 00:44

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

very carefully

# ? May 6, 2015 00:45

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Luigi Thirty posted:

how does one represent a monad in uml?

wget https://www.chipotle.com/public/hero.jpg

# ? May 6, 2015 00:47

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

What do you guys use to do like design diagrams / umls?? Like omni graffie??

draw.io or visio

# ? May 6, 2015 00:47

PleasureKevin: Jan 2, 2011

Shaggar posted:

google has never released a finished product and tying yourself to them is a disaster waiting to happen.

meanwhile asp.net is far and away the best web stack there is and Microsoft has a proven record of constant updates and improvements as well as long term support.

i want to agree but angular is pretty good

# ? May 6, 2015 00:52

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

PleasureKevin posted:

i want to agree but angular is pretty good

which one? they've already rewritten it once.

# ? May 6, 2015 00:53

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

gliffy is OK if your an atlassian shop

# ? May 6, 2015 00:58

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

PleasureKevin posted:

i want to agree but angular is pretty good

angular is probably the exception but I think that was also a side project by some people who happened to work at google.

knockout is better tho

# ? May 6, 2015 01:01

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

does Google use Angular (either version) for anything important?

# ? May 6, 2015 01:13

Jabor: Jul 16, 2010; #1 Loser at SpaceChem

I would guess that most big projects that pre-date angular don't currently use it, because rewriting your application just because you can is basically never worth it no matter how much of an improvement the new hotness is. So I guess the answer to your question depends on whether you think any small applications that started development (or had a UI rewrite where it was worth switching toolkits) are actually "important".

(As an aside, this is the same reason Go uptake is slow. If your metric for success is " everyone immediately drops everything to rewrite their already-working code " then you really do belong in this thread.)

# ? May 6, 2015 01:42

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

Angular isn't good tho. It's retarded and the upcoming rewrite - - while desperately needed - - just goes to show how asinine and obtuse it is.

if u wanna see angular's future just look at GWT it's a goddamn crystal ball.

# ? May 6, 2015 01:51

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

i watchjed the angular tutorial videos and liked the little jingle

SHAPING UP WITH AAAAAAAANGULAR

# ? May 6, 2015 01:53

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

one of these places I've been talking to said they were rewriting their api from webapi to node and short of new(ish) hotness I have no idea why. also they described their culture (when I asked about how they work, generally speaking) as a "war room" which I assume means 80 hour work weeks

# ? May 6, 2015 01:56

kitten emergency: Jan 13, 2008; get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

shags, whats your beef with EF anyway

# ? May 6, 2015 01:59

more like dICK: Feb 15, 2010; This is inevitable.

VikingofRock posted:

I think the main problem people have with Go is the lack of generics. How much will that affect you? I've actually heard it's a decent language otherwise.

it's petty but I have a real visceral reaction to seeing "import github.com..." in code, so go is right out

# ? May 6, 2015 02:03

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Jabor posted:

I would guess that most big projects that pre-date angular don't currently use it, because rewriting your application just because you can is basically never worth it no matter how much of an improvement the new hotness is. So I guess the answer to your question depends on whether you think any small applications that started development (or had a UI rewrite where it was worth switching toolkits) are actually "important".

(As an aside, this is the same reason Go uptake is slow. If your metric for success is " everyone immediately drops everything to rewrite their already-working code " then you really do belong in this thread.)

it doesn't need to be big to be important. google has built plenty of things that are important to their business since angular was launched, I'm just not sure if any of them use angular. if you magically eradicate react from the world, Facebook is in trouble, and that trend is increasing.

# ? May 6, 2015 02:38

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 26, 2024 09:41

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

google is the worst at dogfooding

# ? May 6, 2015 02:59

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware/Software Crap > YOSPOS > terrible programmers: my god, it's full of chars

«‹›1446 »