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wateroverfire posted:Are you a college sophmore? You are, aren't you. i am all things and nothing, i am the inherent paradox of rationality as actualised by ur posting
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:don't like your McJob? you're free...to die in a gutter Or, you know, go look for a different job. You would make a terrible poor person.
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May 6, 2015 18:00
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wateroverfire posted:Which is, actually, quite a lot when you consider it. They can not go many colleges and not have all kinds of healthcare. Stupdendous. Look at all the cars they cant afford.
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May 6, 2015 18:01
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euphronius posted:They can not go many colleges and not have all kinds of healthcare. Stupdendous. Look at all the cars they cant afford. Medicaid, pell grants, subsidized student loans forgiven after 10 years on income based repayment. Hmm. It has historically always sucked to be poor (citation needed, I know). But I posit it sucks a lot less than it ever has.
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May 6, 2015 18:02
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You know, when you think about it impoverished people have a lot of choice. McD's, Taco Bell, or Wendy's? The choices are practically infinite.
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May 6, 2015 18:03
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Medicaid!!! Ha hah HAAAA! It's also 20-25 years of IBR repayments.
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euphronius posted:Medicaid!!! Ha hah HAAAA! Oh sorry. 20-25 years of paying 0 or next to 0 followed by forgiveness instead of 10.
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May 6, 2015 18:10
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wateroverfire posted:Oh sorry. 20-25 years of paying 0 or next to 0 followed by forgiveness instead of 10. Yeah 20-25 years of wage garnishments and no fiscal stability sounds like the Miller High Life to me.
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May 6, 2015 18:11
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I warned ya'll last page.
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Gravel Gravy posted:Yeah 20-25 years of wage garnishments and no fiscal stability sounds like the Miller High Life to me. Paying a token amount toward the cost of your education before getting the rest written off by the government - true injustice.
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i, a middle class white man with a stable job and no debt, wish i had no problems in my life like poor people. they've got it made, they just sit around on their porches all day drinking rum and listening to jazz records
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ITT people in the top 20% of the world by income, who'd probably see their living standards halved if income were distributed equally globally, complain about how unfair the world is to them
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May 6, 2015 18:14
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wateroverfire posted:Paying a token amount toward the cost of your education before getting the rest written off by the government - true injustice. You're right, the choice of spending 20+ years of being broke after your education or facing serious wage garnishment sounds like a great great choice.
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wateroverfire posted:Paying a token amount toward the cost of your education before getting the rest written off by the government - true injustice. "token amount" = 10%-25% of one's income for 2 decades.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i, a middle class white man with a stable job and no debt, wish i had no problems in my life like poor people. they've got it made, they just sit around on their porches all day drinking rum and listening to jazz records I would expect this kind of bigotry from a poster with the forum name Popular Thug Drink. But I am still disappointed.
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wateroverfire posted:Paying a token amount toward the cost of your education before getting the rest written off by the government - true injustice. you pay income tax on that write off. No one has gotten there yet though. I suspect in 15 years when the first people get there it will be changed.
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May 6, 2015 18:16
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wateroverfire posted:Paying a token amount toward the cost of your education before getting the rest written off by the government - true injustice. Better option -- moving overseas to pursue a career. Thank g-d for Israel, eh?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I warned ya'll last page. I find it amusing. Nothing substantial was ever going to come of any discussion here. Or any D&D thread. wateroverfire posted:Paying a token amount toward the cost of your education before getting the rest written off by the government - true injustice. Tells me the cost of the education was over priced to begin with. And if you say something about picking the wrong majors I can introduce you to 70+ underemployed law grad baristas.
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My Imaginary GF posted:"token amount" = 10%-25% of one's income for 2 decades. TBH 10% sounds not bad. 25% might be into "not worth it" territory. OFC if you get an expensive education and go back to working a McJob you're doing it wrong.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Better option -- moving overseas to pursue a career. Only if you are Jewish. And not black/brown.
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"you poor people would not be poor if you got an education and a good paying job" - Poster wateroverfire
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May 6, 2015 18:17
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Gravel Gravy posted:I find it amusing. Nothing substantial was ever going to come of any discussion here. Or any D&D thread. Hmm.
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May 6, 2015 18:19
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euphronius posted:"you poor people would not be poor if you got an education and a good paying job" - Poster wateroverfire I ran the numbers and it checks out
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Lotka Volterra posted:I ran the numbers and it checks out hosed up if true.
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May 6, 2015 18:21
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Gravel Gravy posted:I find it amusing. Nothing substantial was ever going to come of any discussion here. Or any D&D thread. Law was a lovely choice for a major no matter how you look at it over the last few decades
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May 6, 2015 18:22
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wateroverfire posted:Paying a token amount toward the cost of your education before getting the rest written off by the government - true injustice. Making public college education completely free would pay for itself several times over, but retarded conservative can't stand the idea of a sound investment if it benefits poor people at all Other countries are feeling so bad for us that they're starting to offer free college education to American students, that's how boneheaded and backwards-thinking our conservative leadership is
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*in bizarro world where college is free in the US* left-wing goons: It's so unfair how free education is a subsidy to corporations who don't have to spend money on training employees *in another bizarro world where corporations pay students' tuition fees* left-wing goons: It's so unfair that I didn't get into college because no company wanted to pay for my arts degree
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I lolled. I tip my hat to you.
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Bizarro world = the rest of the developed world. How bizarre.
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Typo posted:Law was a lovely choice for a major no matter how you look at it over the last few decades The idea existed that if you wanted a good job you had to go to law school, no matter your profession or interest law degrees are useful. That bubble burst pretty hard.
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do one about the bizarro world where the machines have thrown down their human overlords and installed robocommunism, i love that one
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V. Illych L. posted:capitalism leading to innovation is one of those relations that are, uh, somewhat more complicated than they appear Lotka Volterra posted:Ascribing "innovation" to a system of economics without acknowledging the myriad other factors that drive innovation (necessity, for one) seems incredibly shortsighted. Guys, guys, what if... what if it were possible to believe that capitalism can be beneficial as long as it kept within the confines of utilitarian social welfare and social democracy?
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Gravel Gravy posted:The idea existed that if you wanted a good job you had to go to law school, no matter your profession or interest law degrees are useful. That bubble burst pretty hard. oh god won't someone think of the poor lawyers student loan debt is pretty low on the list of real problems we have in this country and it's really immature to bring it up in a discussion about the minimum wage
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paranoid randroid posted:do one about the bizarro world where the machines have thrown down their human overlords and installed robocommunism, i love that one uhh yeah in that one the machines decided to put the guys who started businesses in medium income countries first against the wall and have installed people who were unable to get rewarding jobs after college as their new politburo (the robots know their limits and need human rulers)
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QuarkJets posted:Making public college education completely free would pay for itself several times over That's pretty questionable but I'm open to and agree with the idea that college could be both a lot cheaper and subsidized and that with the right kind of accountability it could work out better than what we do now.
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Geriatric Pirate posted:*in bizarro world where college is free in the US* There's also kind of contradiction where we are suppose to believe that free college education will make back the costs in terms of tax revenues while simultaneously stating that college grads are all under/unemployed.
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Geriatric Pirate posted:*in bizarro world where college is free in the US* *in a bizarro world where OP isn't an idiot* "wow it's sure nice that I can get an education without having to go tens of thousands of dollars into debt!"
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down with slavery posted:oh god won't someone think of the poor lawyers Pipe down, Rufio.
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down with slavery posted:oh god won't someone think of the poor lawyers its actually a huge problem, just not a huge problem for poor people I guess. its a reall problem though because it is a huge drag on the economy.
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