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HEY GAL posted:i should Let's Read the 1632 series Please do.
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Chamale posted:Please do.
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Murgos posted:By the time rifles were common in the ACW though, well, I know a guy who can hit a a 20" target at 400 yards with his antique. Well, the Austrian Giradoni air rifle, which predated Napoleonic wars, was pretty accurate up to like 200 yards, supposedly, in addition to having a tube magazine, though it was more of a curiosity than a viable mass-produced weapon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juOQ9Ij3G1c
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V. Illych L. posted:i suspect that the authors may have somewhat mischaracterised gustav adolf Pretty sure they won against the Hanseatic League and against the Duke of Mecklenburg when the Duke decided that he was actually the rightful King of Denmark (the King of Denmark politely disagreed).
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# ? May 6, 2015 22:29 |
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I'm in just for hegel complaining constantly and telling glorious stories about how it really was.
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I'd read it.
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steinrokkan posted:Well, the Austrian Giradoni air rifle, which predated Napoleonic wars, was pretty accurate up to like 200 yards, supposedly, in addition to having a tube magazine, though it was more of a curiosity than a viable mass-produced weapon. So that's what inspired the air rifles in the powder mage trilogy. HEY GAL posted:i should Let's Read the 1632 series
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Swim trunks and the black beret of the armored forces is a totally appropriate uniform getup when testing out deep fording equipment. I wanna go take a swim now... Also, pop quiz: what is going on here? More pics: http://imgur.com/a/p8sYy TheFluff fucked around with this message at 23:34 on May 6, 2015 |
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SeanBeansShako posted:This page goes into a little more detail about Napoleonic uniforms than I can properly be spergy about. Huh, that was quite a good read. I like that the shakos had pockets for toiletries and tobacco. Speaking of hats, is there a gradual transition from troops wearing metal helmets to troops wearing fabric hats between, say, 1500 and 1700? If so, would this be related to the increasing role of firearms?
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SeanBeansShako posted:This page goes into a little more detail about Napoleonic uniforms than I can properly be spergy about. that site is run by an insane sperg and I love him for it it's the most detailed resource online about the napoleonic wars by far, although it has some weird questionable spots
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Murgos posted:e: VVVV That's not how machine guns work irl. It's how they work in movies and video games but not the real world. Machine guns, with their long, heavy barrels, sturdy bases and large caliber, heavy rounds are extremely precise and accurate out to very long ranges. And they fire quickly. The way he described machine guns is fairly accurate. The sights aren't set up to make extremely accurate shots and the longer that a burst is fired the wider the beaten zone becomes. Beyond that, the method in which they are often employed precludes 'sniping' dudes. Machine guns in coax mounts(tanks/afvs/etc) are able to more precisely employed because they have a 30-80ton base and the advantage of optics(often computer assisted).
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Machine guns are pretty decently accurate. However they are generally *not* used as precision weapons but rather as suppression weapons. That doesn't mean that they aren't, esp. when you're talking about HMGs, but you generally don't try to snipe people with them. And suppression doesn't mean that you're not also trying to kill the guys you're shooting at. They're pretty good at that if people are standing up, but when they're not making themselves easy target the MG is mainly keeping them pinned.
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Ok dude. I'll just go with you instead of my personal experience carring an M240 (effective on point targets to 800m) across Africa and manning M2s (effective range of 1850 meters, about where the eye can no longer discern individual objects). Some poorly trained people may use them as you said but that's not actually how they are employed or intended to be used by anyone competent. The killing power of a modern infantry squad is its integral MGs, (well it's radios really) not small arms.
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You most definitely can employ MGs at sniping people. See Carlos Hathcock and his scoped-M2.
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You can probably snipe someone with a machine gun, but you're such a big fat obvious target that you're asking to be countersniped by someone who's remaining hidden. Probably why you'd want to not stop shooting lest they shoot you back in return.
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Murgos posted:Ok dude. I'll just go with you instead of my personal experience carring an M240 (effective on point targets to 800m) across Africa and manning M2s (effective range of 1850 meters, about where the eye can no longer discern individual objects). Cool. I'll keep speaking from my experience, too. The FM on machine guns/my own experience seems to agree. quote:Most engagements are within 300 meters. However, the gunner must still engage targets out to
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Disinterested posted:that site is run by an insane sperg and I love him for it It is a great taster, and while a few things might be wrong I still love reading it every few years. Plus the dedication with the MS paint art stuff rocks.
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Thomamelas posted:Not a major sea battle but the HMS Dreadnought did that to a sub in WWI. It's the only kill of a submarine by a battleship. "Congratulation Telegram from the public posted:BUNGA BUNGA STOP
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# ? May 7, 2015 02:43 |
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I'd actually life to encourage this machine gun slap fight, it's really interesting. Even the petty arguments in this thread are good.
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Disinterested posted:it has some weird questionable spots "Uniform dress became the norm with the adoption of regimental systems, initially by the French army in the mid 17th century." - wikipedia.org Edit: quote:The uniforms worn during Napoleonic Wars HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 02:53 on May 7, 2015 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:I can't give you a solid recommendation, but I will say that you are limiting yourself terribly by demanding online access. Most good historical literature is only ever published on physical media. almost any published work can be accessed instantly online; you just need to know the right place to look... of course if you have any scruples regarding file-sharing, not all sources will be equally useful
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Are we even sure he meant digital? He hasn't posted again yet. Maybe he just meant "that I can order from an online retailer."
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Guys, machine guns are clearly for lying down at the end of a hallway and then killing all your enemies who have no choice but to advance through one doorway or stairwell. You use a 1x optical scope because they're 60m away tops, and scopes are cooler than ironsights. Have neither of you played Battlefield or something? VVVVV: over what distances are we talking here? PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 05:04 on May 7, 2015 |
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RE: machinegun chat: an average quality Soviet conscript firing an AK/AKS-74 while prone was expected to get half of his bullets into a 40 cm by 40 cm square while firing short bursts, so a proper machinegun crewed by a competent shooter would be able to reach out and touch someone a lot further away. If the same conscript just sprays and prays, the deviation grows to a hilarious 2+ meters in either direction, whereas for a skilled marksman it remains at a fair 62 by 82 cm.
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Immanentized posted:Outside of the magnificent facial hair, everyone in this picture is just so excited to be doing some ramming. (They missed, the first time at least.) An amazing tidbit from that article: quote:The Italian gunners got a full broadside off at point blank range, but while they had remembered the gunpowder, in the excitement they had forgotten to load the shot. Remove balls to fire blanks.
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V. Illych L. posted:i suspect that the authors may have somewhat mischaracterised gustav adolf Yeah, "too big for our britches" were basically the order of the day. We really wanted to kick swede/german rear end, and had no idea we couldn't. Well, our delusional politicians hadn't, and that's the main thing E: I just want to add that this thread has made me want to learn about Wallenstein, and I'm having a great time at it Tias fucked around with this message at 09:22 on May 7, 2015 |
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Tias posted:Yeah, "too big for our britches" were basically the order of the day. We really wanted to kick swede/german rear end, and had no idea we couldn't. Well, our delusional politicians hadn't, and that's the main thing The fun part was of course that you were fully capable of it since you had a king who was probably one of the richest if not the richest man in Europe at the time. Which of course meant that the Danish parliament really couldn't hold the king back from doing whatever, since the king had more personal income than the state had state income. Denmark and Sweden both have a history where they lose great power status but keep acting like they're still one for about a hundred years until reality sets in.
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Good morning! Anyone here order some war? I've got the invoice right here. Are you sure? It's quite fun (for some people). Fine! Maybe we can hang out instead. (The military woman in the bottom right is trying to cheat the peasant next to her at cards though) Boereverdriet (Peasant's Sorrow), also known as The Horrors of the Spanish War. Set of four engravings after David Vinckboons, by Boetius Adamsz Bolswert. The last one's a lovely quality because I couldn't find an example of it that was not a scan from a book. NB: Check out the woman in the second engraving, bottom left. If you're looking at an early modern piece of art and there's a woman in it who's wearing snazzy formal wear but she's got big old sensible shoes underneath, she's with an army. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 11:53 on May 7, 2015 |
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Klaus88 posted:I visited Gettysburg, stood on Cemetery hill, and listened to one of my fellow visitors sperge about how the muskets of the day weren't accurate past fifty feet. You should hear what people say at concentration camps.
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Tias posted:E: I just want to add that this thread has made me want to learn about Wallenstein, and I'm having a great time at it
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:Cool. I'll keep speaking from my experience, too. No, it doesn't. quote:Most engagements are within 300 meters. However, the gunner must still engage targets out to quote:Enemy personnel are seldom visible except when assaulting. Repeatedly putting rounds a few inches from where someone is hiding keeps them immobile. Spraying rounds way over their head or off over there somewhere has pretty much no suppressing ability whatsoever, I know this from personal experience too. A flood of tracers 10' over your head are pretty cool to look at though. If they poke their stupid heads out you kill them. You don't call out, "Hey there's guys there out in the open someone kill them! This stupid MG is only good for suppression and I can't hit a loving thing with it." quote:4-12. Short controlled bursts my friend. This section of the FM doesn't say what you think it does. If you are spraying rounds down range wildly you are doing it wrong and you will die. MG's are accurate and deadly weapons and when used as such are a dominant element in battle. edit: If someone want's to know what it really means to qualify with a machine gun you can read this: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-22-68/c04.htm Yes, you are expected to quickly engage man sized targets out to 800 meters with limited time to aim and adjust with an M240 or M249. And by engage I mean hit, ideally with the first round and most of the follow on rounds. You are scored not only on the first round hitting but also subsequent rounds, to score expert MOST of your rounds in a burst have to hit the target. Murgos fucked around with this message at 13:14 on May 7, 2015 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:You should hear what people say at concentration camps. What do people say at concentration camps. I've been to the national holocaust museum and I shudder to think what kind of ignorant poo poo people would spout forth at the sites of some of man's greatest inhumanity against their fellow men.
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Wasn't there a follow-up where she tweets about wanting to shoot the Baltimore protestors?
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gradenko_2000 posted:Wasn't there a follow-up where she tweets about wanting to shoot the Baltimore protestors? I think she's done a whole bunch of dumb tweets.
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Welp, reopen the gas chambers
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Cyrano4747 posted:You should hear what people say at concentration camps. Actually trying to act like you know anything at Auschwitz et al can get you in trouble. They have a policy of only allowing tour guides licensed by the museum itself to prevent crazies and Holocaust deniers from starting poo poo and I imagine they enforce it.
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WW2 Data We continue to cover the various markings of Soviet munitions. Nothing too special, unless you haven't seen the Japanese markings where they also had weight variation markings. Chemical markings are also present and I suggest wiki'ing some info on them if you have the chance. Wikipedia Talks about Lewisite posted:Lewisite was developed into a secret weapon (at a facility located in Cleveland, Ohio (The Cleveland Plant) at East 131st Street and Taft Avenue[14]) and given the name "G-34" (which had previously been the code for mustard gas) in order to confuse its development with mustard gas.[15] Production began at a plant in Willoughby, Ohio on November 1, 1918.[16] It was not used in World War I, but experimented with in the 1920s as the "Dew of Death."[17]
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Someone let a 92 year old former ATA pilot fly a Spitfire. That is one sharp goddamn 92 year old. Both she and the plane were quite good looking back in the day.
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Yeah, a lot of veterans are still fairly active. There was a video of a tanker in his early 90s bouncing around a restored T-34-85 like the war ended yesterday.
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