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VMA Gun is great but it's a lot darker and bluer than Boltgun was. VMC Gunmetal is the best replacement I've found, though I hear the Scale75 metallics are great.
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VMA Gungrey is good for dirty boltgun look but it's air-brush-only, surprisingly poor for brushing on, especially since VMA Steel does it just fine. I use Army Painter Gunmetal now and I love it, it's hmm a tiny bit brownish (or less blue?) but it adds to the effect if anything. Not sure how it compares to the actual citadel one because my pot of Boltgun Metal is probably caked solid from disuse 
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JoshTheStampede posted:VMA Gun is great but it's a lot darker and bluer than Boltgun was. VMC Gunmetal is the best replacement I've found, though I hear the Scale75 metallics are great. Scale 75 metallics are super legit, but there isn't a direct boltgun replacement there either. VGC gun metal is really close color wise, but ughhhh vallejo metallics that aren't air. But, I've thrown off the shackles of gun metal and do all my true metallics in scale 75 and golden fluid acrylics now. And then promptly ruin them by varnishing over them.
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I don't know if any of you are in the Philadelphia area, but if so, anyone planning to go the Miniature Figure Collectors of America annual show this weekend? The group is focused on painting and sculpting, as they had a rift in the 1980s to boot out game playing. Other fun facts; they are the oldest group of minature figure painters in the country, this convention is either the oldest or second oldest of it and wargaming's ilk in the country, and they held the first public fantasy based wargame ever at one of their conventions in the 1960s (Lord of the Rings Based of course). There are a ton of photos of the mini's from last year's show here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.880144182002699.1073741837.100000213758410&type=1 I'll be there Saturday for a few hours with my camera. Should be fun.
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May 6, 2015 17:27
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BULBASAUR posted:... Where did you pick up the frosted glass?
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It's actually micro-etched glass on my desk. Its black, but somehow also reflects light despite being a pretty matt surface. I dunno where to get it outside of the desk manufacturer.
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BULBASAUR posted:It's actually micro-etched glass on my desk. Its black, but somehow also reflects light despite being a pretty matt surface. I dunno where to get it outside of the desk manufacturer. It's all good. I think I can use some cheap photo frame glass and some etching solution to get myself a sheet. In other news, Deathjackin':  click for more!
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May 7, 2015 03:55
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!amicable posted:It's all good. I think I can use some cheap photo frame glass and some etching solution to get myself a sheet. This loving rules.
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!amicable posted:It's all good. I think I can use some cheap photo frame glass and some etching solution to get myself a sheet. That is loving legit!
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I'm getting married in a couple of months, and my fiancee suggested I could paint the caketoppers myself. Anyone happen to know about a cool set of bride and groom minis? Preferably 28mm. Googling is hard since the results are inundated with regular terrible plastic caketoppers. Edit: could also be some sort of mounted medieval lady/princess, which I'm having a hell of a time finding. Fish and Chimps fucked around with this message at 07:48 on May 7, 2015 |
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Vampire minis often wear nice dresses, would probably need a head swap though lol
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Throbbing blob posted:I'm getting married in a couple of months, and my fiancee suggested I could paint the caketoppers myself. Anyone happen to know about a cool set of bride and groom minis? Preferably 28mm. Googling is hard since the results are inundated with regular terrible plastic caketoppers. Hasslefree Miniatures do a lot of ladies in nice evening dresses (and a fair few without). Not sure where you'd get the guy though. They do a goonish figure though!
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Yeah thanks but apparently it's impossible to find a non-titty mini when you search for 28mm woman/lady/princess miniature.
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Throbbing blob posted:Yeah thanks but apparently it's impossible to find a non-titty mini when you search for 28mm woman/lady/princess miniature. Not sure what's a titty mini in your book. It might be hard to find one that doesn't look like a C+ cup but I found a few that don't seem to turn the exploitation up to 11. http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/dress/latest/02582 http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/dress/latest/02391 http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/dress/latest/02793 None of those is a proper wedding dress but they might be close enough to work with. Couldn't find a mounted princess type miniature by Reaper. There are a few nice female adventurers/fighters on horseback but I dunno if you want to theme your wedding that way !amicable posted:It's all good. I think I can use some cheap photo frame glass and some etching solution to get myself a sheet. This is like if a WM jack stepped into the hair metal era of 40k. Which is to say it owns.
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JerryLee posted:Not sure what's a titty mini in your book. It might be hard to find one that doesn't look like a C+ cup but I found a few that don't seem to turn the exploitation up to 11. Nice suggestions, thanks. Yeah I meant not showing boobs or rear end or whatever. Not quite what I was looking for though. Dark Sword minis have some GoT ones that look pretty cool: http://www.darkswordminiatures.com/shop/index.php/miniatures/george-r-r-martin-masterworks.html?p=1 We're not going for a theme or anything, so any model of a woman in a dress would probably fit. The important thing is that it's not overly sexualised and that it doesn't look terrible.
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28mm minis are probably going to be too small for cake toppers. Unless you're going to have a tiny cake.
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Throbbing blob posted:Yeah thanks but apparently it's impossible to find a non-titty mini when you search for 28mm woman/lady/princess miniature. Speaking of Reaper, the lady is Cinderella from their Chronoscope line (no idea about the guy)  Also there's plenty of non-titty stuff from Hasslefree: http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=miranda~hfh030&category=fantasy-%26%0D%0Asteampunk~fantasy-humans http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=rae~hfsf114&category=modern-%26%0D%0Apost%252dapoc~modern-non%252dcoms-%2F-civilians http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=gina~hfsf115&category=modern-%26%0D%0Apost%252dapoc~modern-non%252dcoms-%2F-civilians Though if your fiance is not well endowed then maybe you shouldn't use the typical gamer female stereotype with DD cups.
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Good suggestions, thanks. I'll show them to the lady in question and see which ones she likes most.Bucnasti posted:28mm minis are probably going to be too small for cake toppers. Unless you're going to have a tiny cake. I'll call it a vignette instead
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This is phenomenal http://mumumuno53.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-68.html  I can't even wrap my head around how thats been made and painted to look like that.
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serious gaylord posted:This is phenomenal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHUSkyslMQ And I thought the comic style Gundam was the pinnacle of 3d 2d art...
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serious gaylord posted:This is phenomenal As someone who used to do a lot of inking and drawing, and going by the wonky translation Chrome did of the article, I'd wager the person used a lot of penwork and those press-on screen tones for manga to get that look. I'm pretty sure he's based it on Kazutaka Miyatake's work, the guy who did mechanical designs for Macross, so it's safe to say he pulled up a lot of references and worked from there to get that 'drawn' look.
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Slimnoid posted:As someone who used to do a lot of inking and drawing, and going by the wonky translation Chrome did of the article, I'd wager the person used a lot of penwork and those press-on screen tones for manga to get that look. I'm pretty sure he's based it on Kazutaka Miyatake's work, the guy who did mechanical designs for Macross, so it's safe to say he pulled up a lot of references and worked from there to get that 'drawn' look. There are a couple of shots of cut up screen tone sheets. I'm surprised it looks as good as it does from all angles. I always thought these gimmicky paint schemes were mono-angle only.
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!amicable posted:It's all good. I think I can use some cheap photo frame glass and some etching solution to get myself a sheet. serious gaylord posted:This is phenomenal
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!amicable posted:It's all good. I think I can use some cheap photo frame glass and some etching solution to get myself a sheet. This is everything I want to be able to paint like
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Z the IVth posted:There are a couple of shots of cut up screen tone sheets. I'm surprised it looks as good as it does from all angles. I always thought these gimmicky paint schemes were mono-angle only. For certain kinds of NMM it can look bad at any angle that isn't the one the artist painted it at (and you used to see a lot of those ~10 years ago or so), but I think the fact that it is intentionally 'manga'-esque in monochrome color and detail is what makes that robot kit work. Good photography probably helps it, too.
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Is there anyone who does Chimera track armor? My old Chimeras don't have extras like that...
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berzerkmonkey posted:Is there anyone who does Chimera track armor? My old Chimeras don't have extras like that... FW no longer produces the track guard kits (which were total rear end and warped all to hell every time), and I haven't found a suitable replacement either.
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Reynold posted:FW no longer produces the track guard kits (which were total rear end and warped all to hell every time), and I haven't found a suitable replacement either. Oh, it was an FW thing? I thought they were on some extras sprue. I don't really need them, but I was going to be lazy and not put on all of the track sections.
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They were on the old IG accessory sprue, which you can still get from GW: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Imperial-Guard-Tank-Accessories
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SRM posted:They were on the old IG accessory sprue, which you can still get from GW: Ah ha! Thanks! As a side note, for a planet covered in pollution and ash storms, an awful lot of my Steel Legion models are not wearing their goggles... Has anyone used the Games and Gears silicone brush yet? I'm curious as to how well it works (or doesn't). berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 18:10 on May 7, 2015 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:Ah ha! Thanks! I cannot for the life of me get it to work like the dude in their promo video makes it work.
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Slimnoid posted:For certain kinds of NMM it can look bad at any angle that isn't the one the artist painted it at (and you used to see a lot of those ~10 years ago or so), but I think the fact that it is intentionally 'manga'-esque in monochrome color and detail is what makes that robot kit work. And even the degree to which NMM has a sweet spot is drastically overstated by people who like to say they just don't like NMM when they mean they actually don't want to learn how to do it.
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JoshTheStampede posted:And even the degree to which NMM has a sweet spot is drastically overstated by people who like to say they just don't like NMM when they mean they actually don't want to learn how to do it. On the other hand, NMM is likely popular for no other reason than people who can paint NMM likely just don't want to paint with metallic paints period. Does it look better or does it just look fine without destroying brushes and sometimes getting little flakes of the metallics showing up on the color sections of the model? I strongly suspect NMM vs MM is 95% about things other than how the final result looks. (i.e. not destroying brushes, only needing one water pot/brush cleaner container/set of brushes, being a cool kid technique, etc.)
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Cyclomatic posted:On the other hand, NMM is likely popular for no other reason than people who can paint NMM likely just don't want to paint with metallic paints period. Does it look better or does it just look fine without destroying brushes and sometimes getting little flakes of the metallics showing up on the color sections of the model? You're probably right. The reason I prefer it recently is that I think metallics look bad most of the time on 28mm scale models - if I were painting a bust or a 72mm dude I would probably use metallics, but the sparkly effect is out of scale with most of what I paint and I think it looks chintzy. But making metallics look really good/realistic ("TMM" or whatever you want to call it) takes as much time and effort as NMM anyway, so I may as well not get flakes in my water and not be limited to what colors I have in metallic. I also think that even if you don't prefer NMM, learning it is useful, as it teaches you a lot of things about light and color and painting textures, which all come in handy for lots of things. People get really worked up about it but it's just another texture. There's no cloth paint so people use normal paint and try to make stuff look like cloth. NMM is the same poo poo its just that there IS metallic paint so people think it's some whole different world of painting. That said, there is no such thing as quick and easy tabletop-level NMM like there exists for metals, so metals will always have a place. You can base, wash, drybrush metals and they look perfectly good for tabletop, especially across a whole army.
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BULBASAUR posted:Vallejo Liquid Gold is the poo poo, good sir As is VMA steel.
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JoshTheStampede posted:And even the degree to which NMM has a sweet spot is drastically overstated by people who like to say they just don't like NMM when they mean they actually don't want to learn how to do it. This comment comes from a time where everyone and their uncle did that hideous S-E (sky-earth) NMM. God that was hideous. For those not in the know, SENMM involved painting an artificial brown/blue horizon on all your metal parts to make it look like mirrored chrome. Nevermind that real chrome looks absolutely nothing like that anyway. It looked horrid and unnatural and because of that horizon line, only worked from one angle.
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