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Meepo
Jul 30, 2004

Franco Potente posted:

Bad news, forums poster HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Looks like you're stuck with the Nerd

I'm sure that has nothing to do with his signature road funding proposal being voted down by 80% of the voters.

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Was it ever revealed why Santorum dropped out of the 2012 race? He was vague with why and many thought it was something medical with his family.

His youngest daughter has a fatal condition, Trisonomy-18, and was having medical issues during the last month of his campaign that caused him to have to spend more time with her in the hospital than on the campaign trail. After about a week of that, he ended the campaign, which was already doomed at that point anyhow.

That daughter is still alive, even though nearly everyone with her condition dies within the first couple of years.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

GalacticAcid posted:

A ton of Republicans in Pittsburgh hate him for Hurricane Ivan and for being loving weird and embarrassing.

Quinn and Rose will worship him like the libertarian manchild and pseudo-Michele Bachmann they are and if they're still on talk radio I'm sure they'll smear some Santorum all over the place.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
One interesting difference between Sanders and the other Democratic candidate: he's done at least two MSNBC spots every day since announcing and he wasn't at all shy of appearing on the network prior to the announcement.

Contrast that with Hillary who has yet to do any cable TV spots since announcing. Bernie's going to get a lot of airtime for his ideas because those networks have 24 hours to fill and no other candidates to fill it with.

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

joeburz posted:

how is hispanic worse off than black, im legitimately surprised

I'd guess it's about immigration.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
At a Huckabee campaign event today. 'MERICA

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
On wikipedia it says that the South Carolina primary acts like a 'firewall' to keep the crazies from actually winning the election; do the Democrats have something like that?

Also when is the first debate starring America's sweetheart, Bernie Sanders?

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Full Battle Rattle posted:

On wikipedia it says that the South Carolina primary acts like a 'firewall' to keep the crazies from actually winning the election;

That must come as a comfort to the winner of the 2012 South Carolina primary: the Definer of Civilization's Rules and Leader (possibly) of the Civilizing Forces, Newt Gingrich.

Weltlich
Feb 13, 2006
Grimey Drawer

Joementum posted:

At a Huckabee campaign event today. 'MERICA



That's a terrible thing to do to such a fine expression of a tractor :(

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Full Battle Rattle posted:

On wikipedia it says that the South Carolina primary acts like a 'firewall' to keep the crazies from actually winning the election; do the Democrats have something like that?

There was a ton of "firewall" nonsense spewed during the 2008 Democratic Primaries. It is mostly horse race coverage bullshit.

""In These Times" posted:

Google the phrase “Clinton firewall” and you will come up with an ever-lengthening list of scenarios that Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign has said will stop Barack Obama’s candidacy. The New Hampshire primary, said her campaign, would be the firewall to end Obamamania. Then Super Tuesday was supposed to be the firewall. Then Texas. Now Pennsylvania and Indiana.

""The New Republic" posted:

Could hostility toward and rivalry with blacks be a factor in Obama’s abysmal support among Latinos? It’s hard to say, but it’s certainly possible. And if it is a factor--and not simply the result of the Obama campaign’s inattention to Latino voters--then Clinton should benefit from this vote in the primaries and caucuses in states like California even if she loses in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.

""Daily Kos" posted:

TX, OH and PA may be real firewall

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Meepo posted:

I'm sure that has nothing to do with his signature road funding proposal being voted down by 80% of the voters.

Also, a general dislike of campaining/people/Republicans.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Full Battle Rattle posted:

On wikipedia it says that the South Carolina primary acts like a 'firewall' to keep the crazies from actually winning the election; do the Democrats have something like that?

Anyone claiming South Carolina is the place to reject crazy Republicans is clearly out of their god drat mind. Or stuck in an 1860s mindset.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Haha South Carolina is also where the Bush campaign destroyed McCain in 2000 by spreading rumors that he had literally lost his mind in the service and that he had a black lovechild.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe


Who's ready to read about America's next president?

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Nintendo Kid posted:



Who's ready to read about America's next president?

What the hell does that even mean? What a stupid book title.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Gyges posted:

Anyone claiming South Carolina is the place to reject crazy Republicans is clearly out of their god drat mind. Or stuck in an 1860s mindset.

Depends on your definition of "crazy".

Meg From Family Guy
Feb 4, 2012

Joementum posted:

One interesting difference between Sanders and the other Democratic candidate: he's done at least two MSNBC spots every day since announcing and he wasn't at all shy of appearing on the network prior to the announcement.

Contrast that with Hillary who has yet to do any cable TV spots since announcing. Bernie's going to get a lot of airtime for his ideas because those networks have 24 hours to fill and no other candidates to fill it with.

Call it the Schumer Strategy

Tobermory
Mar 31, 2011

AsInHowe posted:

What the hell does that even mean? What a stupid book title.

Perfect Enough was written by George Anders, a business journalist. The books actually written by Fiorina were Tough Choices: A Memoir and its sequel, Rising to the Challenge: My Leadership Journey. Rising to the Challenge came out yesterday, just in time for her campaign announcement.

Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.

DaveWoo posted:

Ben Carson has some... interesting views about checks and balances:

This is a whole thing for far-right social conservatives. As usual, Carson is just parroting bullshit others have said before.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/01/nullification-now-coming-to-the-supreme-court/384704/

Huckabee posted:

One thing I am angry about, though, Hugh, is this notion of judicial supremacy, where if the courts make a decision, I hear governors and even some aspirants to the presidency say well, that’s settled, and it’s the law of the land. No, it isn’t the law of the land. Constitutionally, the courts cannot make a law. They can interpret one. And then the legislature has to create enabling legislation, and the executive has to sign it, and has to enforce it.

It's a piece of red meat to dangle in front of social conservatives: If I'm President, I'll use my authority to make gay marriage bans constitutional. There's a significant body of far-right social conservatives that hate-hate-hate judicial oversight going back to Roe v. Wade, or Plessy v. Ferguson if we're being totally honest. It's been a longstanding talking point to "hold judges accountable" for ruling against right-wing laws, ie. "judicial activism".

Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band

What the hell kind of uniform is that?

Seriously.

What the gently caress is that? And in a painting? It's like a parody of I don't even know what.


UberJew posted:

Oh, we don't hate Jeb for his bloodline



You have got to be loving kidding me. You know, I worry a bit that Hillary's movement to the left is just telling us what we want to hear, and that we would see the same old conflicted or straight up corrupt people in her administration. (Although at least The Macker is distracted by his new hobby.)

But look at that! God drat. If IniTrade were still operating, I'd think that Jeb had bet his entire savings against himself. Usually Republicans don't rehire felons for their administrations once they've resigned in disgrace and been convicted.

Winter Stormer
Oct 17, 2012

Ceiling fan posted:

What the hell kind of uniform is that?

Seriously.

What the gently caress is that? And in a painting? It's like a parody of I don't even know what.

Texas A&M Corps of Cadets; hence the Texas A&M jersey (?).

TheBalor
Jun 18, 2001
Military outfit for "military" people who don't do much more than march around and cosplay.

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
Did he actually join the military in any capacity after college?

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Barracuda Bang! posted:

Did he actually join the military in any capacity after college?

I believe that uniform was from when he was in the Texas A&M corps of cadets, so not real military, but I believe he did spend some time in the Air Force as a pilot for a bit too.

Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band

Winter Stormer posted:

Texas A&M Corps of Cadets; hence the Texas A&M jersey (?).

:stare:

If that's what the cheerleaders for their marching band look like, what do the brave defenders in the Texas State Guard wear in their struggle against the invading United States military? A coonskin hat, Gadsden flag T-shirt, and Lone Star flag trousers?



I can't wait until Perry announces. :jerky:

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



My little sister goes to A&M... but she works with elephants. She has to go to Houston to see 'em, though, because the elephants were smart enough to stay away from A&M.

What I'm saying here is that I hope A&M becomes an element of the national political campaign.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Ceiling fan posted:

:stare:

If that's what the cheerleaders for their marching band look like, what do the brave defenders in the Texas State Guard wear in their struggle against the invading United States military? A coonskin hat, Gadsden flag T-shirt, and Lone Star flag trousers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOgN-4QnZ4

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

UberJew posted:

Oh, we don't hate Jeb for his bloodline



to be fair, any top tier presidential candidate's team will draw from people with foreign policy experience and for a goper that almost necessarily implies working for w., h.w., or reagan

Tobermory
Mar 31, 2011

What are the odds that this becomes an issue in the primary debates?

quote:

Conservatives in Florida were aghast: State documents said that Gov. Jeb Bush and other overseers of Florida's pension system had shifted retirees' money into a company called Movie Gallery, one of the largest film rental firms in America. Most of the titles were standard comedy and action fare, but a fraction were X-rated titles.

In short, the state of Florida was investing taxpayer money in pornography.

eternalname
Nov 25, 2014

I have a strange feeling...that people are having sex...and it's not with me

Tobermory posted:

What are the odds that this becomes an issue in the primary debates?

My initial reaction to this is who actually cares

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Tobermory posted:

What are the odds that this becomes an issue in the primary debates?
I mean, did the company lose money or something? Who cares if a fraction of a fraction was in porno?

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

eternalname posted:

My initial reaction to this is who actually cares

Yes, that would be the reaction of an ostensibly sane person. However, that was not the question. The question is whether it might become an issue in the GOP primary, a.k.a., Der Clown Haus.

I could see someone bringing it up in a debate as a cheap dig in response to Bush, but I don't really think it has legs. In the era of "OBAMA'S DRONES ARE GONNA LOOK AT YOUR MAIL!" him doxxing Floridians via his e-mail dump didn't hurt him, and that was pretty ridiculous.

Tobermory
Mar 31, 2011

ErIog posted:

Yes, that would be the reaction of an ostensibly sane person. However, that was not the question. The question is whether it might become an issue in the GOP primary, a.k.a., Der Clown Haus.

Yeah, pretty much this. As actual issues go, it's both factually true and completely unimportant. In counterpoint, we currently have candidates claiming that the US military is actively planning to drag off Tea Party members into secret FEMA death camps under Walmart.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
I'd vote for that.

eternalname
Nov 25, 2014

I have a strange feeling...that people are having sex...and it's not with me

ErIog posted:

Yes, that would be the reaction of an ostensibly sane person. However, that was not the question. The question is whether it might become an issue in the GOP primary, a.k.a., Der Clown Haus.

Why be so rude? I'm offering my own opinion.

eternalname fucked around with this message at 10:11 on May 7, 2015

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
New Quinnipiac Iowa poll has Chafee surging from "na" to "-"

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

The first rule of No Avatar Club is: you do not talk about No Avatar Club. The second rule of No Avatar Club is: you DO NOT talk about No Avatar Club
Grimey Drawer

Joementum posted:

New Quinnipiac Iowa poll has Chafee surging from "na" to "-"



Huge drop for Warren though.

We'll see how she recovers

The Real Paddy
Aug 21, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Boy, you know I have to agree with some of these people here who have serious doubts about the Republican Party's chance of winning.

I mean, really the only conceivable way they could win would be if the Democratic candidate had some *real* scandal revealed to the media, why then even a Ted Cruz could win, with enough Koch in his hands.

Sure is a good thing the Democratic field is deep with talent.

Wait, two people more or less dominate the current discourse? Everyone says only one of them has a shot at winning the primary?

Huh, well which one do you think is least likely to have a real, actual scandal (or something that could be made to look like one)?

That seems to me to not be an irrelevant question given the consequences.

Yes, the Democratic tradition of telling the voters that the candidate they really want can't win is in full swing to the point of becoming mantra.

And while that may very well be true, I do not for a second think that would be true in the general, where he would have a shot. And having this fearless person of integrity speaking to the nation with authenticity would be an extremely healthy thing for this democracy - see, we hardly even say the word anymore and believe it at the same time.

As such, given the advantage the Democrats have going into this, combined with his reduced likelihood of scandal, and the net negative opportunity cost of going with Sanders (we gain much more by having that message be at the forefront to impact the conditions of debate), and the highly precarious nature of what democracy we have left, it seems to be a good idea to, aw what the heck, maybe try a little bit, even if he won't win the Primary.

I've donated, will be volunteering.

The Real Paddy fucked around with this message at 12:24 on May 7, 2015

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

The Real Paddy posted:

Yes, the Democratic tradition of telling the voters that the candidate they really want can't win is in full swing to the point of becoming mantra.

And while that may very well be true, I do not for a second think that would be true in the general, where he would have a shot. And having this fearless person of integrity speaking to the nation with authenticity would be an extremely healthy thing for this democracy - see, we hardly even say the word anymore and believe it at the same time.

As such, given the advantage the Democrats have going into this, combined with his reduced likelihood of scandal, and the net negative opportunity cost of going with Sanders (we gain much more by having that message be at the forefront to impact the conditions of debate), and the highly precarious nature of what democracy we have left, it seems to be a good idea to, aw what the heck, maybe try a little bit, even if he won't win the Primary.

I've donated, will be volunteering.

Yes but it's very important that I qualify every statement I make on his campaign with "he can't possibly win" because it will be a big crisis for me if in a year someone goes through my post history and makes fun of me for being an optimist.

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Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

The Real Paddy posted:


Huh, well which one do you think is least likely to have a real, actual scandal (or something that could be made to look like one)?

The one who has had a rabid conservative propaganda machine trained on her every slightest action for the last 30 years and still comes out smelling like a rose, not the one who hasn't seen the slightest scrutiny once in his career?

See, it's all really fun to try and fantasize that all Bernie has to do is tustle his hair and calmly explain what true socialism is for America to suddenly love it, but if you want to be realistic, you'll understand "is actual socialist" is the big scandal.

Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 12:53 on May 7, 2015

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