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Kajeesus posted:Uhh, I don't know what you meant to say here, but that doesn't make sense. Calling something petty escapism heavily implies that there exists non-petty escapism from which it is distinct. Otherwise, he'd just call it escapism. Yeah, I could have stated that better and I'd agree with your interpretation if we just had that isolated line to go by. I felt in the post as a whole though, he was making a strong distinction between work that relates to the real world that has meaning that he finds valuable, and work that avoids dealing with the real world that he finds not valuable. That latter definition sounds like escapism to me and his opinion of it is very negative. So given that, I don't think he meant to suggest that non-petty escapism exists as he views any work that isn't grounded in the real world as not worthwhile. So I think it is more likely he is using petty to emphasize his dislike for that kind of writing, and not to suggest that non-petty escapism exists in his eyes. Though I could very easily be wrong, so who knows. But that wouldn't be suggested by the line itself, so I shouldn't have typed it like that.
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What exactly is the controversy here? Calling escapism petty isn't exactly a revolutionary view.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Nah, my thing is because Dragonlance is taking too long to produce more sequals to Kang's Regiment and I want more, but instead of writing fanfiction I'll write something I can try to publish instead. 50 Shades of Raistlin?
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Colonial Air Force posted:50 Shades of Raistlin? Raistlin isn't the only cool character to exist in that setting.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Raistlin isn't the only cool character to exist in that setting. Soth was always cooler. I was pretty excited in OotS when Xykon made up a bunch of wannabe Soths for the assault on Azure City. Edit: Actually, he made Xykon clones. I think one was a death knight? Now I have to go read all that again. rocketrobot fucked around with this message at 19:41 on May 6, 2015 |
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rocketrobot posted:Soth was always cooler. I was pretty excited in OotS when Xykon made up a bunch of wannabe Soths for the assault on Azure City. They're more or less fulfill the same sort of role Soth does in being a Death Knight but one certainly was. In that they were nigh unstoppable undead killing machines.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Raistlin isn't the only cool character to exist in that setting. First one I could remember.
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Raenir Salazar posted:They're more or less fulfill the same sort of role Soth does in being a Death Knight but one certainly was. In that they were nigh unstoppable undead killing machines.
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May 7, 2015 00:54
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May 7, 2015 04:20
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Always good to see more Mama Thundershield.
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Nice to see the dwarves are so progressive.
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Cabbit posted:Nice to see the dwarves are so progressive. I dunno, that's a pretty American-style healthcare system.
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May 7, 2015 05:59
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Stop the Odincare death panels!
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You'd think he could've sent the cost home. He's been wealthy enough for ages.
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Kajeesus posted:Uhh, I don't know what you meant to say here, but that doesn't make sense. Calling something petty escapism heavily implies that there exists non-petty escapism from which it is distinct. Otherwise, he'd just call it escapism. The opposite of petty escapism is great escapism, as practiced by Steve McQueen. *** So, when Durkon was a kid, the only dwarven cleric who was high-level enough to restore limbs (and hence to cast Resurrection) was the High Priest of Odin. And we know that guy is dead. We also know that, barring the odd Hilgya, these dwarves don't like to leave their comfortable society and go out on adventures. So it seems likely that none of the other priests have leveled up enough to cast Resurrection in the intervening period. They're gonna get to the dwarven homeland, and nobody will be able to rez Durkon. At least, nobody who's not Redcloak...
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Former linear-guild lokicleric possibly could, being not QUITE durkon's rival but close enough that she might just get to be the same level as him, and also COULD have the motive to not want an evil spirit going around in a guy she kind of liked's body. But then again she also might not want to off her god's daughter's only high level priest.
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She worshiped Loki, not Hel.
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What part of "lokicleric" makes it seem like I think she worship's Hel?
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Cliff Racer posted:She worshiped Loki, not Hel. reignonyourparade posted:Former linear-guild lokicleric possibly could, being not QUITE durkon's rival but close enough that she might just get to be the same level as him, and also COULD have the motive to not want an evil spirit going around in a guy she kind of liked's body. But then again she also might not want to off her god's daughter's only high level priest.
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EDIT: Beaten multiple times.
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That's why he said daughter.
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Yeah, I missed that. Don't think that will be a big deal though, if Norse/Northern gods act anything like Greek ones do. And even beyond that loving around with a relative seems like something that Loki would be okay with.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:The opposite of petty escapism is great escapism, as practiced by Steve McQueen. I think your over thinking it, it's likely the next High Priest got the remaining levels to act as High Priest 'off panel' and so on.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:The opposite of petty escapism is great escapism, as practiced by Steve McQueen. They could always phone up that resurrection service the Oracle uses.
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It's weird to see Durkon getting his character actually fleshed out this late in the game and postmortem, but I like it. Dwarven society seems pretty terrible, too. Maybe bringing death and destruction to it won't be such a bad thing.
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The whole "pay ridiculous amounts of money to priests for vital spells" has always been something that D&D settings struggle to deal with.
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Colonel Cool posted:The whole "pay ridiculous amounts of money to priests for vital spells" has always been something that D&D settings struggle to deal with. How it's supposed to be is that typically the Church gains a tithe, and that tithe pays for 80% of services to the local village/town/seigneurie.
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Colonel Cool posted:The whole "pay ridiculous amounts of money to priests for vital spells" has always been something that D&D settings struggle to deal with. I always figured that was just a "foreigner adventurer bullshit is not covered by the church" thing. I don't remember anything in the rules specifying that normal people are paying these kinds of rates for spells.
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I guess if there's only one cleric in the Dwarven lands high enough level to cast level 7 cleric spells, he might have enough legitimate uses of that spell slot every day that a peasant's missing arm wouldn't make it up the list on its own. If the church only has a few casts of Regenerate, Raise Dead, Resurrection and so on to ration out then selling those services at exorbitant rates could give the church enough gold to do far more mundane, temporal good like running poor houses, orphanages and conventional hospitals.
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Taciturn Tactician posted:I always figured that was just a "foreigner adventurer bullshit is not covered by the church" thing. I don't remember anything in the rules specifying that normal people are paying these kinds of rates for spells. Priest: "So, when was the last time you went to confession?" Adventurer: "Oh, well, just last week." Priest: "Where?" Adventurer: "It was in... uh... this town you wouldn't have heard of." Priest: "Look, just donate a new baptismal font and I'll stop the bleeding." Adventurer: "Deal."
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Cabbit posted:Nice to see the dwarves are so progressive. I agree but moreso for the 'lass or lad' statement than the rest of it. Dwarves have no social stigmas against gays.
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Sefer posted:I like that Thor's version of Sunday School happens on Thursdays A missed chance to just straight up call it Thorsday.
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Three updates in a short while. Is Rich okay? 
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nimby posted:A missed chance to just straight up call it Thorsday. Why do you think Thursday is called Thursday?
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khy posted:I agree but moreso for the 'lass or lad' statement than the rest of it. That's what I was referring to. Makes me wonder if I missed something else!
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This rapid update cycle has me very disoriented.
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khy posted:I agree but moreso for the 'lass or lad' statement than the rest of it. That's not exactly progressive though. Has there been any stigma against gays shown on the comic, hell even Miko wasn't taken aback when two female paladins hurriedly made plans with each other rather than spend new years with her.
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Yeah, it may be homophobia simply isn't a concept in the OotS world and gay people are just an accepted fact.
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It's less that the OotS world is a certain way and more that Rich is not-too-subtly making a point, as well as trying to make up for the girdle of gender swapping arc and that early strip where everyone was leering at Haley.
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