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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:All this wanking over US battleships and US pseudo-battleships is just making me pine for the Takao and Akizuki more. If Ise and Hyuga are not going to be in this game in their hermaphrodite carrier roles, someone needs to be fired.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:All this wanking over US battleships and US pseudo-battleships is just making me pine for the Takao and Akizuki more. I want the Tone, for its wacky gun layout.
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May 7, 2015 03:02
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They should make the Arizona a premium ship, people will pay for that poo poo. I will pay for that poo poo.
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May 7, 2015 03:04
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wdarkk posted:I want the Tone, for its wacky gun layout. Same but Nelsol/Rodnol. Never not full steam nearly straight into Team Red firing all guns and ending with a ram attack when low on health. Think of England, gentlemen  
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May 7, 2015 05:43
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:They should make the Arizona a premium ship, people will pay for that poo poo. I will pay for that poo poo. It won't be worth it. It'll just sink the first time it gets hit by a Japanese bomb. 
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May 7, 2015 09:06
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You can pretty much guarantee the following will be premiums offered for sale on respective famous dates: USS Arizona (Dec 6th), USS Missouri (VJ Day), USS Enterprise (Midway), HMS Prince of Wales (Bismarck/Sinking), HMS Exeter (River Plate), HMS Belfast (Partnership with the museum), Admiral Graf Spee (River Plate)
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May 7, 2015 09:20
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Why would they sell premium ships that would be a specific hull from a ship class already present in the regular ship tree ? How would they differentiate it gameplay wise ? there wouldn't be much differences in primary weapons or ship stats. Concerning anti air. When is it worthwile to pick the anti air range upgrade ? I've got it on my Cleveland but don't notice much difference in effectiveness against aircraft, my captain is quite low level though so I don't have the active ability upgrade yet.
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May 7, 2015 09:42
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Same but Nelsol/Rodnol. Never not full steam nearly straight into Team Red firing all guns and ending with a ram attack when low on health. Nelson and Rodney? It's the only true way to fight!, Full steam ahead guns blazing for Queen and county 3x3 Forward facing 16" guns is nothing to sneeze at really. With 12 6" guns on the back, 2 24.5" torpedo tubes and 64 AA guns of different types to top it off. Pretty slow sadly though.
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May 7, 2015 09:55
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Krogort posted:Why would they sell premium ships that would be a specific hull from a ship class already present in the regular ship tree ? They have to though otherwise the trees are going to get weird. I don't see how they can't put Queen Elizabeth Class in to the British line, I'm assuming the Warspite is in the alternate configuration after it's reconstruction and the others will be as built Queen Elizabeth Class.
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May 7, 2015 09:58
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Krogort posted:Why would they sell premium ships that would be a specific hull from a ship class already present in the regular ship tree ? Ships aren't the same as tanks, as long as they didn't sink WW1 and interbellum vessels underwent a variety of upgrades to hulls, guns, armour and other systems across their lifespan as technology improved, because it was treaty compliant (and occasionally cheaper) to do so. It may not play hugely different, but you can pick a layout from a particular point in time that isn't being represented by the ship class in the tree and you've got a unique vessel. It's not like Fury is vastly different from an Easy Eight, and the new T-54 early sounds pretty similar to a T-44.
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May 7, 2015 10:16
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God drat I go away for a while and come back to find NTRabbit's actually made a post which is not only factual but also funny. Jesus. I ran into a wall (my own stupidity and ineptitude) on destroyers so I started down the IJN cruiser line, because I'd rather have a pretty ship than an effective one  . I'm up to Aoba right now and I quite like it. I'd like it more if my team didn't repeatedly do everything in their power to get me killed, though. It's even worse in my Yamato. Oh, you're in the biggest battleship ever built? Great! You can fend off the entire loving enemy team while all the rest of us piss about in the far corner of the map looking for carriers that aren't there! I like raked funnels and I cannot lie
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May 7, 2015 11:54
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rossmum posted:God drat I go away for a while and come back to find NTRabbit's actually made a post which is not only factual but also funny. Jesus. Well sometimes it's a bunch of other assholes that conspire to get you killed  I didn't even realize it was you until I'd dropped that torpedo salvo, I was bitching to Hazdoc and Dalael about how "this goddamn cruiser is being twitchy as gently caress".
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May 7, 2015 12:21
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My first sign of trouble was three cruisers barrelling down that strait, which I didn't really expect. I would've gladly duked it out with one, maybe two, but three? The moment your planes turned up and I noticed Dalael, I knew I was done. RIP.
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May 7, 2015 12:45
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rossmum posted:My first sign of trouble was three cruisers barrelling down that strait, which I didn't really expect. I would've gladly duked it out with one, maybe two, but three? Captain Ross Mumsdorff to Dr Beach Bumann, morning of 14 December 1939 NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 13:24 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 13:21
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Same but Nelsol/Rodnol. Never not full steam nearly straight into Team Red firing all guns and ending with a ram attack when low on health. I always loved the nicknames, Nelsol and Rodnol. Krogort posted:Concerning anti air. On the Cleveland, I recommend the accuracy upgrade instead of the AA one. I have chosen both AA perks on my cruiser captain though and the second AA upgrade on my Baltimore. It simply murders planes.
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May 7, 2015 14:25
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rossmum posted:God drat I go away for a while and come back to find NTRabbit's actually made a post which is not only factual but also funny. Jesus. Welcome to the dark side. You're gonna like the Mogami. 
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May 7, 2015 16:47
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I've been having a load of fun in the Japanese cruisers playing sort of close support to the Battleships. Destroyers just seem to get all torpedo crazy around Battleships and ignore you until you sink them.
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May 7, 2015 16:51
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rossmum posted:God drat I go away for a while and come back to find NTRabbit's actually made a post which is not only factual but also funny. Jesus. I just got the Aoba and played one game in it before bed. I got straight up murdered in two salvo's from (I think) a Pensacola while only getting about 4 salvo's out, and ended up at the very bottom of the team for xp. I was less than pleased. Hopefully I can do better in it next time, because I'm really used to being at the top of the team xp list in my Pensacola (or Cleveland). It was on that stupid ice map though, I really don't care for that map. Aramoro posted:I've been having a load of fun in the Japanese cruisers playing sort of close support to the Battleships. Destroyers just seem to get all torpedo crazy around Battleships and ignore you until you sink them. I prioritize DD's as targets anytime that they are within 10km or so, because I hate torpedoes and if you let one of them get to point blank by tunnel-visioning on something else, they will straight up murder you and there's nothing that can be done about it when they drop a spread too close to dodge in any way. It's also pretty funny when the chat explodes after you alpha a DD off the map in a single salvo (from a cruiser or BB). The Locator fucked around with this message at 17:00 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 16:58
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The Locator posted:I just got the Aoba and played one game in it before bed. I got straight up murdered in two salvo's from (I think) a Pensacola while only getting about 4 salvo's out, and ended up at the very bottom of the team for xp. I was less than pleased. Hopefully I can do better in it next time, because I'm really used to being at the top of the team xp list in my Pensacola (or Cleveland). It was on that stupid ice map though, I really don't care for that map.
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May 7, 2015 17:04
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So, this was the most one-sided match I've ever seen.     Also, I bloody ammo-racked a Yamato with two torpedos hitting for over 70k damage. 
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May 7, 2015 17:28
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Magni posted:Also, I bloody ammo-racked a Yamato with two torpedos hitting for over 70k damage. This right here is why I murder DD's whenever possible.
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May 7, 2015 17:34
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Aramoro posted:I've been having a load of fun in the Japanese cruisers playing sort of close support to the Battleships. Destroyers just seem to get all torpedo crazy around Battleships and ignore you until you sink them. I have been doing this in the Atlanta along with the aa mod. Murdering planes was never so hilarious. As for Ross, wait till you hit the mogami. That is an amazing ship. I am going to be sad when I have to play the myoko instead next patch. I don't forsee myself unlocking the myoko before then.
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May 7, 2015 18:01
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Insert name here posted:Yeah but I mean, I don't see how it's too different from what we had now though. Since presumably the first line would still be standards capped off by fast BBs at the end which is... exactly how it is now. Noooooooo!!! God damnit, I just unlocked the Essex and want to enjoy my tier X dominance!! Okay... now that I finished crying, anyone know what happens when a tier X gets demoted? Will i be reimbursed or will they give me a midway. Im actually hoping for a refund. I want some time to play wih my new toy.
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May 7, 2015 18:13
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Dalael posted:Noooooooo!!! God damnit, I just unlocked the Essex and want to enjoy my tier X dominance!! This question, but for ships getting swapped around as well. I've got the Mogami, and exp-wise I'm closing in on the Myoko, so what's going to happen when they reverse them?
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May 7, 2015 18:17
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Why are people so obsessed with the Admiral Graf Spee and the Prinz Eugen? Like, I can understand the Japanese ships and the Bismark, but I had never even heard of the other two until I started playing this game and they seem to pop up everywhere. Seems like the Spee spent most of its time shooting unarmed ships and running away before she got in a real fight and got scuttled, and the Eugen escorted the Bismark for a bit before becoming a support vessel. It doesn't seem like either of them have illustrious histories or super-ships (Bismark and Yamato, while ineffective, are cool just for their firepower). Is it just people who are way into Nazi Germany or are they special to germans a la the Arizona?
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May 7, 2015 18:19
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ranbo das posted:Why are people so obsessed with the Admiral Graf Spee and the Prinz Eugen? Like, I can understand the Japanese ships and the Bismark, but I had never even heard of the other two until I started playing this game and they seem to pop up everywhere. Seems like the Spee spent most of its time shooting unarmed ships and running away before she got in a real fight and got scuttled, and the Eugen escorted the Bismark for a bit before becoming a support vessel. The Spee was scuttled after innacurate reports of a fleet waiting to ambush it. If that alone does not make you want it, nothing will. God I would pay good money for a picture of Hitlers face when he was told one of his ships was scuttled for absolutely no reason.
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May 7, 2015 18:24
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ranbo das posted:Why are people so obsessed with the Admiral Graf Spee and the Prinz Eugen? Like, I can understand the Japanese ships and the Bismark, but I had never even heard of the other two until I started playing this game and they seem to pop up everywhere. Seems like the Spee spent most of its time shooting unarmed ships and running away before she got in a real fight and got scuttled, and the Eugen escorted the Bismark for a bit before becoming a support vessel. People adore them some Nazi German ships for no discernable reason. I think it might be because they get a wrong impression from all the mistakes the Brits made and how they portrayed the Kriegsmarine as actually competent to hide how terrible a job they did. gently caress those assholes, SMS Emden was the best commerce raider.
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The Germans didn't have a lot of famous ships, and by virtue of the battle - the first naval battle of the war between the UK and Germany - all 4 ships involved have some measure of fame and/or notoriety, Admiral Graf Spee, Exeter, Ajax and Achilles. Famous ships are the ones that will be turned into the first round of money spinning premiums. There's also a really cool movie about it from the 50s, which has the real Achilles in it playing herself 
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May 7, 2015 18:33
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The German ship that I would say I most look forward to is the Scharnhorst/Gneisenau, but it really depends on how they are put into the game. They were battlecruisers, but for some reason a lot of people now call them Battleships. They had 9 x 11" guns that were quite accurate by all reports, and they would be terrifying cruisers, but as a battleship? Not so much. So I guess it would depend on where they got tiered, and as what. Also, their secondaries - 12 x 5.9", 14 x 4.1" all in turret mounts + AA 16 x 37mm, 16 x 20mm, and 6 x 533mm torpedo tubes.
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May 7, 2015 18:53
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I'm not going to lie, the German line is probably going to be fun to play. Their ships are fast and mostly have oversized guns. Bismarck has an armor scheme designed to frustrate cruisers. It's like a line full of brawlers.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:I'm not going to lie, the German line is probably going to be fun to play. Their ships are fast and mostly have oversized guns. Bismarck has an armor scheme designed to frustrate cruisers. It's like a line full of brawlers. And half the tree will have the best flag the game will have.
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Personally, I'm just looking forward to the Deutschland-class (including Graf Spee) because they're a pretty interesting (if flawed) design that might allow for a somewhat unique playstyle. Same as for Scharnhorst/Gneisenau or the Alaska-class or, hell, the Bismarck. Smaller guns than other T8 BBs, but potentially high rate of fire and fast turret turn times on a fast plattform is potentially quite interesting.
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May 7, 2015 18:59
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Magni posted:Personally, I'm just looking forward to the Deutschland-class (including Graf Spee) because they're a pretty interesting (if flawed) design that might allow for a somewhat unique playstyle. Same as for Scharnhorst/Gneisenau or the Alaska-class or, hell, the Bismarck. Smaller guns than other T8 BBs, but potentially high rate of fire and fast turret turn times on a fast plattform is potentially quite interesting. The Deutschlands were lightly armored by cruiser standards fyi.
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May 7, 2015 19:12
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Prinz Eugen, while not terribly interesting or auspicious in its career, was known as a lucky ship. So lucky, it survived the war to do a stint as the USS Prinz Eugen in the American Navy and survived two atomic blasts in the Bikini Atoll testing. It even had a combined German and American crew for it's voyage to Boston from Europe.
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The Locator posted:The German ship that I would say I most look forward to is the Scharnhorst/Gneisenau, but it really depends on how they are put into the game. They were battlecruisers, but for some reason a lot of people now call them Battleships. "Battleship" was the official Nazi propaganda name.
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xthetenth posted:The Deutschlands were lightly armored by cruiser standards fyi. Meh, I'm halfway through the Ibuki. I sure hope I'd know my way around glass cannons by now. With the T8 thing in particular I was talking about the Bismarck. Only 8*15in, but IIRC they had a high rate of fire and the turrets were quite fast.
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I think wargaming has implied that Deutschland, Alaska and other related ships will be low tier battleships instead of high tier cruisers 
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Alaska and Scharnhorst I could see as BBs, but the Deutschlands would be hell to try and balance that way. Tier her too low and she'd break the game at low tiers hard by mulching cruisers and outranging low-tier BBs. Tier her higher than that and she'd become fodder for other BBs and struggle even against cruisers. Implementing her as high-ish tier cruiser that's built around (for the class) extraordinary powerful, but slow-firing primaries would work better imo.
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May 7, 2015 19:43
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xthetenth posted:And half the tree will have the best flag the game will have. If you are talking about the swastika, I'm willing to bet it won't be added. If they do, it will make the game illegal in Germany and wargamming will not want to lose this player base. They know abunch of them will thrown money at the Bismark and any other ships they can buy.
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Dalael posted:If you are talking about the swastika, I'm willing to bet it won't be added. If they do, it will make the game illegal in Germany and wargamming will not want to lose this player base. They know abunch of them will thrown money at the Bismark and any other ships they can buy. I am going to guess he means the Imperial German Navy flag.
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