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CobiWann posted:AND made me go read Richard III again. When I had to read Shakespeare in school I absolutely hated it - then we got taken to see an actual play (The Tempest) and I realized that of COURSE they're terrible to read, because they're explicitly designed to be performed. I get the importance to the English language/writing etc, but in my opinion nothing sours a young kid on Shakespeare faster than having to read it, and nothing gets them more enthralled with him than actually watching his plays being performed. Edit: Also yes, everybody who hasn't should watch Ian McKellan's filmed version of Richard III, which is incredible.
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from the toxx threadMooseontheloose posted:Let's be real J-Ru the worst episode Moffat wrote is coming up and is The Time of the Doctor and was an awful regeneration episode which makes it double worse.
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May 10, 2015 00:16
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Time of the Doctor has problems, but yeah I was kinda shocked to hear its name bandied about as not just bad, but somehow worse than the utter drek that is Doctor, Widow, Wardrobe. That's opinions for you, though!
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May 10, 2015 00:19
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I thought Time of the Doctor was okay. TBH, it was closer to what I was expecting the anniversary to be -- fanservice where they just threw all of the Doctor's enemies at him. In retrospect I'm glad Day of the Doctor was what it was, but Time is a pretty decent episode if you just think of it as 50th anniversary fan porn.
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May 10, 2015 01:09
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Jerusalem posted:but in my opinion nothing sours a young kid on Shakespeare faster than having to read it There is one thing worse than just reading it - that Godawful ritual of making the class take turns to read the play out loud...
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May 10, 2015 01:30
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Trin Tragula posted:There is one thing worse than just reading it - that Godawful ritual of making the class take turns to read the play out loud... Oh Jesus Christ the flashbacks 
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May 10, 2015 01:40
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Trin Tragula posted:There is one thing worse than just reading it - that Godawful ritual of making the class take turns to read the play out loud... I went to an all-boys high school, and our English teacher made us do that with Romeo and Juliet. I'm torn on whether that was a good idea, because giving a class full of teenage boys that script will actually make the comedic intentions of the play very clear.
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May 10, 2015 01:40
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My high school english teacher showed us Zefirelli's Romeo & Juliet.... needless to say, most of the guys in the class were enthusiastic about it. (There is nudity in it.)
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May 10, 2015 01:48
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Cleretic posted:I went to an all-boys high school, and our English teacher made us do that with Romeo and Juliet. Accurate to the original production at least.
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May 10, 2015 02:01
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thexerox123 posted:My high school english teacher showed us Zefirelli's Romeo & Juliet.... needless to say, most of the guys in the class were enthusiastic about it. Well technically speaking, I think 15 year old boys are the only ones who are allowed to be enthusiastic about the nudity in that film. All joking aside, it's supposed to be an amazing film, sadly I haven't seen it.
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May 10, 2015 02:05
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thexerox123 posted:My high school english teacher showed us Zefirelli's Romeo & Juliet.... needless to say, most of the guys in the class were enthusiastic about it. Hahaha, yes, mine too. (She didn't know about the nudity ahead of time.)
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May 10, 2015 02:21
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My first Shakespeare play was The Merchant of Venice...
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May 10, 2015 02:21
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docbeard posted:Hahaha, yes, mine too. Mine actually did know about it, and warned/enticed the class with that knowledge ahead of time. Jerusalem posted:Well technically speaking, I think 15 year old boys are the only ones who are allowed to be enthusiastic about the nudity in that film. Haha, this is very true. And it was a very well done film, from what I recall. I was a nerd who was already into Shakespeare, so I enjoyed it throughout. thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 02:33 on May 10, 2015 |
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May 10, 2015 02:29
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Those boobs are an American rite of teenage passage.  
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May 10, 2015 02:38
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Just catching up on the thread, and while I don't want to start all the Owen stuff again, I would pay real money for the gadget Tosh has that you plonk on a book and it downloads the text to your PC.
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May 10, 2015 02:38
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docbeard posted:Hahaha, yes, mine too. I remember one of my teachers showing us The Name of the Rose and "accidentally" fast-forwarding through the sex scene, his face basically purple with embarrassment as he did it, Christian Slater going at it like a jackrabbit on the screen behind him 
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May 10, 2015 02:41
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After The War posted:Those boobs are an American rite of teenage passage. Not just American. I got them in 4th year English here in the UK too. (For the 'read the play aloud' stuff we didn't do that for Shakespeare. We did it for Tennessee Williams instead. Me, the girl who 'played' Blanche and the girl from Glass Menagerie and the one dude in our class who was super-into theatre were the only ones who tried the accents)
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May 10, 2015 03:08
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CobiWann posted:My first Shakespeare play was The Merchant of Venice... I know your pain. Luckily I got to do Hamlet the year after, which I actually still remember.
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May 10, 2015 03:15
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I actually enjoyed that part. I got to be Angry Laertes Post-Ophelia Suicide. It wasn't often you got to shout at the top of your lungs in class.
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May 10, 2015 03:51
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I liked the reading out loud from Shakespeare thing, but I was a theatre kid in high school, and theatre was, coincidentally, where one got to see boobs all the time, so I am not disappointed that I never saw the boob version of R&J.
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May 10, 2015 03:57
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Jerusalem posted:Time of the Doctor has problems, but yeah I was kinda shocked to hear its name bandied about as not just bad, but somehow worse than the utter drek that is Doctor, Widow, Wardrobe. That's opinions for you, though! I rewatched it lately and I feel like it's improved greatly with time. And it does strike a large number of the themes of Eleven's run. It still feels like there's a lot of cut material, though. And it had the disadvantage of coming off one of the best all-around episodes of Doctor Who's run.
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May 10, 2015 12:10
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Found this interesting. Reading DWM's "The Fact of Fiction" on "Rose" in DWM 485, RTD clarifies something that many people have argued about since it aired in 2005, and it's no, the Doctor had not just regenerated.
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May 10, 2015 14:03
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Davros1 posted:Found this interesting. Reading DWM's "The Fact of Fiction" on "Rose" in DWM 485, RTD clarifies something that many people have argued about since it aired in 2005, and it's no, the Doctor had not just regenerated. Please. Like RTD would know.  Seriously, I could see it. Nine just might not have seen a mirror yet or was still self conscious about his new body.
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May 10, 2015 14:12
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My English classes were pretty good with Shakespeare; got to watch the Polanski Macbeth, and Kenneth Branagh's Hamlet. Helped that the English teacher encouraged us to talk about the the sex puns, gore, etc, all the good stuff which teenage boys love. She also detested the Romeo + Juliet adaptation, and gave a pretty good break down on why she thought it was complete cack.Jsor posted:I thought Time of the Doctor was okay. TBH, it was closer to what I was expecting the anniversary to be -- fanservice where they just threw all of the Doctor's enemies at him. In retrospect I'm glad Day of the Doctor was what it was, but Time is a pretty decent episode if you just think of it as 50th anniversary fan porn. TOTD, really didn't click with me. It started out alright, then just seemed to fall apart when they arrive in the town. It's obviously going to have a fractured narrative by skipping over large parts of the Doctor's life ( I didn't mind that), but there's something about it overall that doesn't mesh well with me for some reason. I'll have to think on it. 
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May 10, 2015 14:13
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Davros1 posted:Found this interesting. Reading DWM's "The Fact of Fiction" on "Rose" in DWM 485, RTD clarifies something that many people have argued about since it aired in 2005, and it's no, the Doctor had not just regenerated. Pfft, death of the author. Nine wakes up on the floor of the TARDIS console room, decides he needs a change of clothing. As he's doing so, pictures of this blonde girl float through his head like a fading dream. "Cinder...? No, someone else." He plugs himself into the telepathic circuits to find out who she was and the TARDIS zooms to Henrik's department store. But what's this? A Nestene signal here too? Better investigate that first...
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May 10, 2015 14:15
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thexerox123 posted:My high school english teacher showed us Zefirelli's Romeo & Juliet.... needless to say, most of the guys in the class were enthusiastic about it. We watched Sir Kenneth's version of Much Ado About Nothing, which starts with Don Pedro's party arriving and everyone immediately stripping off and running into the showers. Nothing explicit, mind you, but maybe a bit more than anyone was expecting first thing on a Monday morning. Gaz-L posted:Not just American. I got them in 4th year English here in the UK too. AS and A-level English are a bit mixed up for me now, but among the various set works we studied, I remember doing The Glass Menagerie and The Great Gatsby, and we were all quite amused that Sam Waterston played Tom in the former and Nick in the latter. We also got to do Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha, which everybody else in class hated but I quite liked (I was already familiar with Doyle, though, so maybe I just knew what to expect).
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The_Doctor posted:Pfft, death of the author. Nine wakes up on the floor of the TARDIS console room, decides he needs a change of clothing. As he's doing so, pictures of this blonde girl float through his head like a fading dream. Nothing ever immediately follows anything else. Every off-screen moment has to be available for Big Finish.
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After The War posted:
drat straight, that's probably why Moffat gave Matt Smith an extra 300 off-camera years for them to play with
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May 10, 2015 16:28
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After The War posted:
Eccleston has that gap at the end of Rose for solo adventures to play in, and between The Doctor Dances and Boomtown for Rose and Jack shenanigans.
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May 10, 2015 16:35
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The_Doctor posted:[..] and between The Doctor Dances and Boomtown for Rose and Jack shenanigans. BF set a story during that period, for their 50th anniversary audios; Night of the Whisper was the 9th Doctor specific one 
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May 10, 2015 16:46
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The_Doctor posted:Eccleston has that gap at the end of Rose for solo adventures to play in, and between The Doctor Dances and Boomtown for Rose and Jack shenanigans. But this way we can have angry, post-War, pre-Rose Nine in addition to post-"Everybody Lives" mellower Nine, depending on the story requirements. We already have something like that going on with the Six audios, with the Evelyn-era Doctor being more world-weary and drained by the extreme measures he took earlier in his incarnation (ie, the televised episodes). C:\>Baker does this perfectly and, should hell freeze over, I'm sure Eccleston would too.
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Espilae posted:drat straight, that's probably why Moffat gave Matt Smith an extra 300 off-camera years for them to play with Well, yeah. Matt Smith's got what, a good 50 or 60 years of Big Finish audios in him? They're going to need all the narrative space they can get to fit those in.
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Organza Quiz posted:Well, yeah. Matt Smith's got what, a good 50 or 60 years of Big Finish audios in him? They're going to need all the narrative space they can get to fit those in. By that point, cybernetically-enhanced, wheelchair-bound Nick Briggs will actually have become Davros, so that's a win for everybody.
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May 10, 2015 17:24
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We'll still have to put with scripts from the Brain of Lidster, I'd expect. 
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After The War posted:We'll still have to put with scripts from the Brain of Lidster, I'd expect. The audience, reduced to this, a condition where we envy a vegetable
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May 10, 2015 18:09
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All I want is John Hurt to do a few Time War stories for BF.
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May 10, 2015 18:18
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CobiWann posted:All I want is John Hurt to do a few Time War stories for BF. I wonder how Big Finish would handle the Nightmare Child and The Could-Have-Been King with his army of Meanwhiles and Never-Weres.
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May 10, 2015 18:30
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I wonder how Big Finish would handle the Nightmare Child Haven't you listened to The Holy Terror?
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DoctorWhat posted:Haven't you listened to The Holy Terror? Ah, so bad vocal effects in an otherwise fantastic story, then. I'm down.
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no i mean that my HeadcanonTM is that the kid in the Holy Terror was the Nightmare Child.
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