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So, some poor Officer doing PR for the Jade Helm exercises gets grilled by  during a town meeting.http://video.statesman.com/Bastrop-residents-challenge-Army-colonel-in-Jade-Helm-briefing-28960637 I'm honestly surprised they didn't start throwing poo poo at him. And I bet every single one of those people has a SUPPORT ARE TROOPS sticker on their pickups.
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twistedmentat posted:So, some poor Officer doing PR for the Jade Helm exercises gets grilled by The confident smile of the common ignoramus is such a discouraging sight to behold. Then again, a year from now, all of these yokels will have to come up with convoluted explanations for why nothing happened. That said, best of luck to our Lizard Men in uniform as they bravely enact martial law.
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Animal-Mother posted:Then again, a year from now, all of these yokels will have to come up with convoluted explanations for why nothing happened. 
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Animal-Mother posted:Then again, a year from now, all of these yokels will have to come up with convoluted explanations for why nothing happened.  "The fearless and decisive actions of the Texas State Guard scared the Federal Military into abandoning the plan." There, done.
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the gently caress is jade helm? is that some kinda anti-communist drill they got going on?
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Fairly sure it's a nickname for a penis.
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My Imaginary GF posted:the gently caress is jade helm? is that some kinda anti-communist drill they got going on? The feds are going to invade Texas, kicking off Civil War 2: March Further
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May 9, 2015 05:33
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I thought it was one of the crops in dwarf fortress?
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May 9, 2015 06:02
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its plump helmets!!
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illrepute posted:The feds are going to invade Texas, kicking off Civil War 2: March Further and folks are...against this? why would you be against this?
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May 9, 2015 07:12
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Unfortunately a large chunk of the United States, military, even that from non-Confederate states, is basically composed of neo-Confederates now.
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May 9, 2015 07:24
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That's why the US should rely on the help of less-insane allies whose armies... oh right.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:That's why the US should rely on the help of less-insane allies whose armies... oh right. You're right. When America is down for the count, the only allies we can depend on are England and Israel.
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My Imaginary GF posted:the gently caress is jade helm? is that some kinda anti-communist drill they got going on? It's basically some sort of training exercise involves the special forces that is happening across several states. It's apparently a bit secretive (because it involves, you know, THE SPECIAL loving FORCES) so some details aren't public but the right wing is losing their minds over it and claiming Oblammo is going to use it to invade conservative states and invoke martial law. Because if you want to do that you totally use units that make up a rather small amount of the army like special forces.
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May 9, 2015 19:49
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It's basically some sort of training exercise involves the special forces that is happening across several states. It's apparently a bit secretive (because it involves, you know, THE SPECIAL loving FORCES) so some details aren't public but the right wing is losing their minds over it and claiming Oblammo is going to use it to invade conservative states and invoke martial law. Because if you want to do that you totally use units that make up a rather small amount of the army like special forces. so why not call it Antiterrrorist Drill 15?
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My Imaginary GF posted:so why not call it Antiterrrorist Drill 15? The military likes wacky code names. It always has.
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with the level of surrounding exercise "oh god our military actually does exercises" I kind of wish they'd actually march on town halls to see how many crazy militias start firing
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May 9, 2015 20:25
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The military likes wacky code names. It always has. Industry also likes wacky code names. It's a great way to refer to a project so that you can discuss it in public without anyone outside of the company knowing what you're talking about. I assume it's a similar thing for the military.
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Dirk the Average posted:Industry also likes wacky code names. It's a great way to refer to a project so that you can discuss it in public without anyone outside of the company knowing what you're talking about. I assume it's a similar thing for the military. Yup. And the military actually has quite a lot of very good reasons to be secretive. Plus if somebody finds out "the military is doing something named Purple Goat Balls 37" they've effectively learned nothing.
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Are there websites that track like infowars.com predictions and then compares them to reality? I think that would be funny.ToxicSlurpee posted:The military likes wacky code names. It always has. Code names are easier to remember than random numbers. Companies often code-name products and their components with goofy movie themes and things. It works. asdf32 fucked around with this message at 01:16 on May 10, 2015 |
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Wasn't one of Enron's plots to steal money from everyone called Operation Chewbacca? The Poltoons thread has a lot of cartoons related to Jade Helm, did the Governor really call out the Texas National guard? Also, Chuck Norris's official asskicker status is revoked, I say we replace him with Kurt Russell. He hasn't thrown his had in with crazy people yet.
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The governor called out the Texas state guard irl, which is different and I guess less likely to side with the evil gay brown democrat yankee forces or something
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asdf32 posted:Are there websites that track like infowars.com predictions and then compares them to reality? I think that would be funny. There's this.
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InediblePenguin posted:The governor called out the Texas state guard irl, which is different and I guess less likely to side with the evil gay brown democrat yankee forces or something The national guard is generally beholden to the states they exist in if memory serves. So each state has its own set of guard units which are made up of locals that are in theory more loyal to their home states than the federal government. Granted in this case it's far more likely the government is deploying the guard to make it look like he's standing up to the evil federal government rather than actually standing up to it. It's a dumb thing to do but given the Tea Party beast that the GOP unleashed and how far down Insanity Ln. the right is expected to be right now it isn't really surprising. That's the state that gave us Cruz, after all.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The national guard is generally beholden to the states they exist in if memory serves. So each state has its own set of guard units which are made up of locals that are in theory more loyal to their home states than the federal government. Granted in this case it's far more likely the government is deploying the guard to make it look like he's standing up to the evil federal government rather than actually standing up to it. It's a dumb thing to do but given the Tea Party beast that the GOP unleashed and how far down Insanity Ln. the right is expected to be right now it isn't really surprising. That's the state that gave us Cruz, after all. The national guard can be taken over by the President. There is a separate State Guard that can't be.
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twistedmentat posted:Wasn't one of Enron's plots to steal money from everyone called Operation Chewbacca? Most of Enron's plots were named after Star Wars poo poo, yes
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computer parts posted:The national guard can be taken over by the President. There is a separate State Guard that can't be. Yes, this, The Texas State Guard is NOT the Texas National Guard and my post was meant to disambiguate that point. He called out THESE people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_State_Guard Not THESE people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Army_National_Guard
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I had no idea there was another state level military force in the US. Though at least they are meant to simply be an augment to the other forces, and a more local response team. Not some kind of defense against the vile and evil Gay Commie Feminist Black Federal Government.
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twistedmentat posted:I had no idea there was another state level military force in the US. Though at least they are meant to simply be an augment to the other forces, and a more local response team. Not some kind of defense against the vile and evil Gay Commie Feminist Black Federal Government. Yeah they're basically the descendants of the original State Militias formed immediately after the US itself formed. That whole thing where nobody trusted a federal military in peacetime and all. Most states had them up until the early 20th century, when most of them slowly started getting converted into National Guard organization where they were directly connected to the now permanent standing federal military, which is why most states haven't had any state-only forces in a long time.
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For the most part there wasn't a federal military. That came later. I wanna say after the disastrous War of 1812. Other states, especially ex-confederate ones, kept the tradition going.
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Well, there was a federal military, but it was really really really really tiny, almost uselessly tiny. After the revolution the army was disbanded except for an artillery unit and a small regiment to protect the borders from natives. By 1791 the US had a standing army though it was still just really goddamned small. Like was completely useless to any organized invasion by foreign powers
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Shbobdb posted:For the most part there wasn't a federal military. That came later. I wanna say after the disastrous War of 1812. Other states, especially ex-confederate ones, kept the tradition going. Even then most of the "military" was militia units that could be called up when necessary. The large, standing, professional army full of full-time soldiers is, historically speaking, a very recent thing. Part of the reason individual states and various localities had militias and armies was because for most of human history there was a strong need to have local people ready to fight at a moment's notice to fend of raiders or unruly neighbors. For the most part by the time the message got to some sort of central leadership the problem had already came, hosed everything up, and left. Part of it was the U.S. clinging to that idea. Which kind of indicates how deliberately backward the South was. Slavery and serfdom started to vanish around the same time as huge professional armies started to show up. The South wanted to live in the past where almost everything was done locally and central governments were a thing that occasionally showed up to collect a few taxes or round up some dudes out of the levy. The South decided that the old way of doing things would always be the best.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Yup. And the military actually has quite a lot of very good reasons to be secretive. Plus if somebody finds out "the military is doing something named Purple Goat Balls 37" they've effectively learned nothing. Except for the Japanese Imperial Military. Invasion of Java: Operation J Invasion of Midway: Operation Mi Invasion of Port Moresby: Operation Mo Invasion of the Aleutian Islands: Operation Al
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CeeJee posted:Except for the Japanese Imperial Military. Maybe their plan was to make it so that if anyone thought they'd figured it out, they second-guessed themselves because it can't be that easy.
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My PIN is 4826 posted:Is there any good book about all these really stupid conspiracy theories? From a rational point of view, obviously. From a few pages back, http://www.amazon.com/Everything-Under-Control-Conspiracies-Cover-ups/dp/0062734172 was published in 1998 and is a fascinating read if you want to know what the conspiracy crowd was doing before the internet.
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twistedmentat posted:I say we replace him with Kurt Russell. He hasn't thrown his had in with crazy people yet. I have some bad news... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo
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McDowell posted:I have some bad news... Welp, we know what President Jack Burton wanted us to call.
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Throwing Turtles posted:From a few pages back, http://www.amazon.com/Everything-Under-Control-Conspiracies-Cover-ups/dp/0062734172 was published in 1998 and is a fascinating read if you want to know what the conspiracy crowd was doing before the internet. Seconded. That's basically the greatest bathroom book a Kook Fancier could own.
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Seconded. That's basically the greatest bathroom book a Kook Fancier could own. Honestly almost everything from RAW is hilarious conspiracy-related stuff. That book is great.
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Under the vegetable posted:Honestly almost everything from RAW is hilarious conspiracy-related stuff. That book is great. I still maintain Pope Bob's view on conspiracy theories, which is essentially of course there are big nefarious conspiracies being done by the people in power. There are a lot of them and they don't all overlap and a lot of them are in opposition to each other. The problem the average conspiracy fancier gets in to is trying to take the insane amount of evil and subterfuge and underhanded dealing that government and business do by nature and connect them into some universal conspiracy where the bad guys are a monolithic organization we can beat instead of a bunch of decentralized elites at war with each other.
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