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Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Jedit posted:

Cadbury's may be our crap chocolate, but it's still infinitely better than anything Americans produce. One of our favourite hobbies is giving our Yankee friends Green & Black's and watching them burst into tears.

:nallears:

It's just chocolate dude.

No need to go all Horst-Wessel-Lied over it.

Nostalgia4Infinity fucked around with this message at 00:28 on May 11, 2015

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I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax
British people are to chocolate as New Yorkers are to pizza

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Payne's caricatures always look like someone drew the guy from the new yorker logo with a crayon. I don't get why he'd want to draw like that.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Small Frozen Thing posted:

British people are to chocolate as New Yorkers are to pizza

At least it's not as horrible as American chocolate. (The USA doesn't produce chocolate, they're producing sugar with brown food colouring.)

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
Brit chocolate is great. :yayclod:

:britain:

Guardian:

"Martin Rowson on the aftermath of the general election – The Liberal Democrats aim to begin their recovery from a disatrous election by choosing the successor to Nick Clegg by mid-July, with Tim Farron and Norman Lamb the frontrunners"

Telegraph:

Blair tells Labour: return to the centre ground to win again (I think the guy on the left is Chuka Umunna)

Independent:


Times:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Libluini posted:

At least it's not as horrible as American chocolate. (The USA doesn't produce chocolate, they're producing sugar with brown food colouring.)

Actually it's pretty much candle wax with sugar and cocoa powder.

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

Titus Sardonicus posted:

I'm leaning towards this as an explanation as well. That looks less like a drop in quality than a complete stylistic change, it doesn't resemble Payne's old work in any way. And personally, I don't think it's bad, per se, just incredibly lazy when whoever is drawing, Payne or otherwise, keeps relying on the same tired trope over and over.

I'd attribute it to burn-out too. That's why Waterson stopped cartooning, after all--you can only draw cartoons about a specific subject (even one as broad as American politics) for so long before it starts to become a slog. I mean, the simplistic drawings Payne puts out now don't strike me as a stylistic change so much as he knows he can be this simple with them and get away with it, he'll still keep his job. poo poo, if you had a guaranteed money-maker that you could stick to for years and all you had to do was draw a simplistic stick-figure and call it Obama, slap a few labels here and there, and call it a day, how many people wouldn't crank that poo poo out so they could move on to the rest of their day and do whatever it is political cartoonists do in their free time.

Wildeyes
Nov 3, 2011

Jedit posted:

Cadbury's may be our crap chocolate, but it's still infinitely better than anything Americans produce. One of our favourite hobbies is giving our Yankee friends Green & Black's and watching them burst into tears.

Yeah? Can you get any chocolate bars in the UK with pop rocks in them? Or waffle pieces? Or potato chips?

Well we can. Checkmate, limeys. :smug:

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Wildeyes posted:

Yeah? Can you get any chocolate bars in the UK with pop rocks in them? Or waffle pieces? Or potato chips?

Well we can. Checkmate, limeys. :smug:

Yes, yes and yes.
Cadbury sells the first kind so theyre everywhere.

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 01:15 on May 11, 2015

.Edward Penischin
Jun 5, 2008

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Yes, yes and yes.
Cadbury sells the first kind so theyre everywhere.

But do you fry yours? #Texas

TheDarkFlame
May 4, 2013

You tell me I didn't build that?

I'll have you know I worked my fingers to the bone to get where I am today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-fried_Mars_bar

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Mr. Squishy posted:

LOL meaning lots of love is a perfectly valid understanding. Also the boxes to the right are just of random British crap?

David Cameron was asked whether he could/would serve a third term and he made an analogy between politics and Weetabix: 2 is fine, 3 is too much.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk
Mallard Fillmore: Year One (December 12-18, 1994)







...did Tinsley seriously pull the "it was all a dream" angle? :-/

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

:stonk: God Almighty

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

Libluini posted:

At least it's not as horrible as American chocolate. (The USA doesn't produce chocolate, they're producing sugar with brown food colouring.)

*Nods sagely, adds German people to the list*

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Amateur hour. Come back when you're frying butter and coca cola.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Wait, a ridiculous deep fried thing that ISN'T American in origin?

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Mister Beeg posted:

Mallard Fillmore: Year One (December 12-18, 1994)


You'd think a guy that gloated this much over Rostenkowski getting booted out of congress would looove Eric Holder :v:

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

majormonotone
Jan 25, 2013


Thanks

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

GOD ALMIGHTY :magical:

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
This thread has gone TOO FAR!

Lustful Man Hugs
Jul 18, 2010

:stonk:

Sometimes this thread is the most horrifying place.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk

Wow, never thought I'd see this drawing here.

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

Lustful Man Hugs posted:

:stonk:

Sometimes this thread is the most horrifying best place.

Fixed that for you.

I for one propose we have more political cartoon slashfic. I envision Wormbama in a menage-a-trois with Condom-head Cameron and one of Payne's giant-rear end cars.

Portals
Apr 18, 2012

Xanderkish posted:

Fixed that for you.

I for one propose we have more political cartoon slashfic. I envision Wormbama in a menage-a-trois with Condom-head Cameron and one of Payne's giant-rear end cars.

I vote for not letting more slashfic into this thread, it's horrible enough as is.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Ted Rall x Ted Rall 4 evar.

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

Portals posted:

I vote for not letting more slashfic into this thread, it's horrible enough as is.

I am a firm believer in Politoons thread accelerationism, I approve of their concept

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!
It will be glorious. Like watching a train crash but the train is filled with DEBT.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

xthetenth posted:

At one in fifteen students, that's not the clap, it's a round of applause.

Six pages back, but I gotta :golfclap:

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

R. Mute posted:

Ted Rall is a competent cartoonist.

agreed.



Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Wildeyes posted:

I have a theory that Redhead Waifu gets way, way more screentime in this comic than Zed does (even though he's listed first on the character page), which probably owes to the fact that Muir has to meet his daily cleavage quota. This comic could be the poster boy for arguing against the merits of the Bechdel test.
Doesn't qualify since they're always talking about Obama and how evil he is.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
That means Syria in case you didn't know

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Small Frozen Thing posted:

I am a firm believer in Politoons thread accelerationism, I approve of their concept

im gonna ship posters in the thread, rorus raz/r mute OTP

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

forbidden lesbian posted:

im gonna ship posters in the thread, rorus raz/r mute OTP
Pants/The Ground imo

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost
E: that wasn't actually as funny as I thought.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!


Comic links to: http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=4458

Things from that site that he happened to leave off:
Black people commit a lot of crime
Jews do run things

quote:

A recurring theme outside the fever swamps is the growing collection of things that everyone knows, but we’re not allowed to discuss. I think a lot of it is simply due to the emerging religion of the post-national West trying to work out the orthodoxy. It’s hard to hail the triumph of egalitarianism when clearly most people are not equal. While that’s being hammered out, you’ll not notice it – or else.

On the other hand, ever human society has things it carefully places in its blind spot. Reality is simply too big and complicated to be anything other than messy for self-aware mammals. Religion used to solve this by blaming the gods, but now we just politely refuse to talk about those intractable or inconvenient aspects of human existence. Just for fun I thought I’d make a post of some of them.

Black people commit a lot of crime: The recent unrest in American ghettos has been great material for the TV news channels. The only thing better than burning buildings is seeing people loot the building first then set it ablaze. If they are doing it during the day it is even better as you can then get great closeups of the rioters.

The trouble is all the people doing this are black. In America, everyone knows black people commit an outlandish amount of crime. If you see black males on the street, everyone, including black people, assume they are up to no good. It is something everyone knows, but we choose not to discuss. When we are forced to talk about it, some other unrelated issue is brought into the discussion so we can talk about that, rather than the crime figures.

No one wants their kid to be gay. All parents say they are just happy if their kids are healthy. That’s mostly true, but no parent wants their kid to turn out to be a happy healthy homosexual. All of those pious Progressives haranguing us about the gays privately hope they never have to be in the same room with a gay, much less have one in the family. There’s a reason for all of the gay ghettos in places like New York, Boston and San Francisco.

Gay men are mostly assholes. Life for homosexuals is not a lot of fun. Unlike everyone else, their pool of potential mates is infinitesimally small. A normal man makes a pass at a women and it is not big deal if she is offended. A man makes a pass at a man and it is big trouble if the other guy is not into dudes. Life for gay people is not a lot of fun and that’s what makes them so unpleasant. We all know this, but what’s the point of saying anything about it? They are what they are and that’s punishment enough.

Lesbians are surly and unattractive. The pornography industry has convinced a lot of men that lesbians are hot super models or the girls down the hall, if you can just get them drunk. Of course, lesbians in the press avoid the normal kit as they know how TV works. Viewers want to see attractive people. That means lantern-jawed men and model quality women.

In real life, lesbians look like the guy who paved your driveway. They have bad haircuts and wear men’s clothes. For some reason, they like wearing men’s jeans and flannel shirts. Younger ones will have a face full of fishing tackle and tattoos. To add to the unpleasant visage, they are surly and miserable people. I’ve trod this earth a long time and I have yet to meet a sunny, bubbly lesbian.

The apple does not fall far from the tree. Education policy and all of our debates about crime, poverty and the underclass are all based on something we know is nonsense. That thing is the belief that the kid will grow up to be something different than his parents. The fact we all know is that almost all kids turn out to be, more or less, like their parents.

Public policy is based on the belief that the right teacher, the right program, the right social worker will magically overcome biology. We all know this is nonsense, but we go along with it because it beats the alternatives. The rare exception of the kid overcoming bad parents makes us feel good so we go along with the lie, even though everyone suspect it is a mistake.

Men are not all that interested in what women have to say. Here’s another biology issue. Males are programmed to seek mating opportunities. We fight one another, fight strangers, perform in public and do all sorts of things to increase out chances of mating. Whatever it takes to bag a female we will do. That includes pretending to care about what a woman has to say on most subjects.

The hard cold truth is women are bred for having and raising children. Men are bred for battling other males for the chance to reproduce. It’s why we used to say that men will trade money for sex and women will trade sex for money. The biological ends of men and women are the same, but the means are vastly different and neither side can offer much in the way of advise to the other, with regards to the means.

My guess is women don’t care what men have to say either, but most men assume that anyway. Women seem to think we are supposed to care what they have to say so we have all of these rituals where men pretend to care what the hot women in the office is saying about sales, but he is really just thinking about banging her.

The most bigoted people in America are black. In fact, blacks are actively encouraged to wear their prejudices on their sleeve. Every black comic does bits on white people. Famous black people put a lot of effort into “keeping it real” so they can be clear that they are not down with the blue-eyed devil. How many times have you heard a black guy say something like, “It is a black thing, you wouldn’t understand”?

What makes this most absurd is we also pretend that blacks are biologically incapable of being racist or prejudiced. No one, for example, ever says that Al Sharpton is a racist, because that’s not permitted. We all know that he is a hate-filled carbuncle of a man, but he’s black so we don’t say he is a racist.

Jews do run things. If you look around, it is not hard to notice that men of the tribe occupy a disproportionate amount of the nation’s high ground. Hollywood is run by Jews. The media is all run by Jews. Finance, obviously. Look at the list of richest 1000 and you see that 30% are Jews. It’s not a conspiracy or part of some master plan run from a secret location in Israel. Jews are just a wildly successful people.

Western societies reward intelligence and Jews are the smartest group of humans on earth. That means more of them will be equipped to succeed in a modern society, relative to their numbers, than we’ll see with other groups. Having smart people in charge of your country is a good idea so everyone goes along with it and never mentions it. The last time people noticed the Jews were in charge, a lot of bad things followed so we pretend not to notice.

Most people should not be allowed to vote. Paying attention to pubic affairs is tough stuff. First off, it’s boring. Thinking about the big game is a lot more fun than thinking about tax policy or abortion policy. Even if you have an interest in it, there’s so much bravo sierra in the media it is hard to keep track of things. Even smart people fall into lazy habits of rooting for Red Team or Blue Team without thinking about it.

Most people are not smart. In fact, most people are average to below average. We’re a country that lets retarded people vote. We all know this is a terrible idea, but we go along with it anyway. We hope that when it matters the serious people who know the right answers will also have the ability to convince the dumb people to pull the right lever. But, most of us suspect it would be better to just let the smart people vote, but we keep that to ourselves.

A bit of :tinfoil: some :biotruths: and a whole lot of :bahgawd:

Mordiceius fucked around with this message at 03:33 on May 11, 2015

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



Henry Payne, a white man who is paid to shill for the auto manufacturers in Detroit, unsurprisingly has no idea why black people rioted in Detroit in 1968, or why they rioted in Baltimore 50 years later.

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bitey
Jul 13, 2003

Tell the truth and run.
"Most people should not be allowed to vote. Paying attention to pubic affairs is tough stuff."

My favorite common typo (and it's in the original; I checked).

Learned to avoid this when I used to type things for the Department of Pubic Works.

bitey fucked around with this message at 03:59 on May 11, 2015

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