|
I'm actually surprised the average income is that high.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 00:59 |
|
|
# ? Jun 9, 2024 13:19 |
|
Amoeba102 posted:I'm actually surprised the average income is that high. I doubt they remove the top and bottom few percent to take care of outliers. The top 2% potentially skew the results more than the bottom is my guess. Also not sure if people on welfare are included (they probably are)
|
# ? May 11, 2015 01:06 |
|
I suppose we need the median.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 01:10 |
|
Amoeba102 posted:I'm actually surprised the average income is that high.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 01:12 |
|
Lots of those figures were the average full-time worker, so it obviously excludes a bunch of people. Matt Cowgill did a good breakdown of the various figures in 2013.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 01:12 |
|
starkebn posted:ahahahahaaaaa So even if we accept Tony's claim that a couple earning $30K or ~15% above the average income for a 2 income household is "not especially high", Why the gently caress do we let them have a transfer payment? Cool, Subsidised childcare, Like the idea. How about we set the cuttof at 95% of Median income.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 01:20 |
|
That's how you buy votes.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 01:23 |
|
Reading some of the budget news this morning and I did idly wonder how Tony Abbott went from his "signature" PPL scheme to trying to cut the money available to to women for PPL without his head exploding from the cognitive dissonance.quote:Rolling on from the riff about Hockey’s performance and the changing messages in the last post, here’s changing messages, a case study. It’s worth posting this exchange in full. Also this: quote:Well the truth is that many employers have paid a very generous paid parental leave schemes before the government came into this space and, you know
|
# ? May 11, 2015 01:23 |
|
Has it generally worked how they're portraying things? It seems to me they're saying up to now some people would get a work payout of their wage rate, and then they would get a government payout _at the same time_? I thought it was more like the employer would pay the extra above the government rate to get you up to your wage rate, or you would get the government payment for X amount of time and they would pay you after that stopped.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 01:53 |
|
starkebn posted:Has it generally worked how they're portraying things? It seems to me they're saying up to now some people would get a work payout of their wage rate, and then they would get a government payout _at the same time_? It's been up to the employer as to what they offer, which ranges from nothing to full replacement salary. The whole thing is completely stupid because now any employer who provided some form of "top up" PPL is likely going to stop since their employee's would miss out on the government payment all together if they kept going.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:15 |
|
Can't even explain or implement paid parental leave, Madama Speakah *~muppet government~*
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:16 |
|
How did I only just discover this: https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/...enefit_for_you_
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:22 |
|
Murodese posted:How did I only just discover this: https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/...enefit_for_you_ Have you found the list of qualifying occupations? The link on the pdf is dead edit: this is it, apparently: http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/Stu...P%20Benefit.pdf
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:31 |
|
Couldn't get a job in science anyway.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:34 |
|
Amoeba102 posted:Couldn't get a job in science anyway. It looks like you qualify if you've worked 1 week in that tax year in one of the qualifying occupations.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:36 |
|
Fulltime or part time?
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:38 |
|
Doesn't specify. http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/payingbackmyloan/hecs-help-benefit/pages/hecshelpbenefit has fewer dead links and is better written than the ATO website. edit: ahh gently caress, you have to have graduated from an undergrad course after 30/06/2008
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:49 |
|
Well my graduation was in 2009, thanks to honours. I don't know who this helps that I know personally, because everyone that stayed in science got jobs overseas.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:56 |
|
The other thing is the compulsory payments part too. It's probably only apply to compulsory payments as a result from science income. Edit: It does say one week. I should just do 1 week's employment so I guess I'm wrong.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 02:58 |
|
Amoeba102 posted:Well my graduation was in 2009, thanks to honours. I don't know who this helps that I know personally, because everyone that stayed in science got jobs overseas. The policy is literally to reduce the impact of this.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 03:07 |
open24hours posted:http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/scottish-labour-inside-the-campaign-from-hell.125560928 A good read, thanks for the link. Also, I may have been rubbing one out while reading it, from pure schadenfreude
|
|
# ? May 11, 2015 03:09 |
|
norp posted:The policy is literally to reduce the impact of this. It didn't work
|
# ? May 11, 2015 03:34 |
|
Murodese posted:It didn't work Most graduate positions make more financial sense overseas. When you take bonuses and subsidies into account, I can get paid about the same as the top rate available to a NSW high school teacher in the first week on the job in Hong Kong. I'd have to work in NSW for about 8 years to get the same money. The harder you work at uni here, the better off you are leaving the country when you finish.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 03:38 |
|
Scott Morrison digs in the knifequote:I’m only just catching up with an unfortunate digression from Captain Chuckles on his favourite radio show earlier today. Captain Chuckles was portraying himself, modestly, as best supporting actor in a budget – or, for more manly types, a prop forward.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 03:58 |
|
fiery_valkyrie posted:Scott Morrison digs in the knife *snrk*
|
# ? May 11, 2015 04:33 |
|
fiery_valkyrie posted:Scott Morrison digs in the knife I see so many words but I do not comprehend them.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 04:48 |
|
Hocus Pocus posted:Does it still count as capital punishment if we trebuchet Joe Hildebrand into the Indian Ocean? Or would that be too 'cruel', 'unusual', or 'traumatizing for his children' for you bleeding hearts? instead of the Indian Ocean, I nominate the Todd River on the grounds that it will be much more humourous.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 04:52 |
|
Zetsubou-san posted:instead of the Indian Ocean, I nominate the Todd River on the grounds that it will be much more humourous. Can I nominate a huge flat slab of concrete with a comedically small glass of water in the centre. THIS IS COMEDY HILDEBRAND YOU loving HACK. *launches trebuchet*
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:17 |
|
fiery_valkyrie posted:Reading some of the budget news this morning and I did idly wonder how Tony Abbott went from his "signature" PPL scheme to trying to cut the money available to to women for PPL without his head exploding from the cognitive dissonance. It's taking their ball, going home and scorching the earth behind them. It is similar to how they've handled themselves in other areas. Either taking someone they didn't like about the previous government and doing exact the opposite (scrap carbon tax and pay polluters, double down on Nauru and tow back asylum seekers), or having a fit that they didn't get what they want and poison pilling related stuff (Cut GP rebate instead of copayment, cut science funding if bill isnt passed). This government has indulged the most in childish and petty behaviour, out of any Australian government. It is an embarrassment to its citizens, and takes an active part in damaging our reputation across the globe.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:20 |
|
Wheezle posted:I see so many words but I do not comprehend them. I do but that is only because I live in NSW and have passively taken in enough rugby league. He is a shire boy through and thorugh, the wider world does not exist outside of his communities small bubble.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:23 |
|
Tokamak posted:I do but that is only because I live in NSW and have passively taken in enough rugby league. He is a shire boy through and thorugh, the wider world does not exist outside of his communities small bubble. Which one of Morrison and hockey is having a dog suck them off and which one is pissing in their own mouth?
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:28 |
|
Gough Suppressant posted:Which one of Morrison and hockey is having a dog suck them off and which one is pissing in their own mouth? This isn't an exclusive and we're talking about here.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:31 |
|
was greg bird the one who peed in he own mouth
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:32 |
|
Gough Suppressant posted:Which one of Morrison and hockey is having a dog suck them off and which one is pissing in their own mouth? chris kenny played rugby?
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:33 |
|
Seagull posted:was greg bird the one who peed in he own mouth No but apparently he got a ten game suspension from the NRL which I didn't even think was possible, also glassed his girlfriend.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:37 |
|
Gough Suppressant posted:No but apparently he got a ten game suspension from the NRL which I didn't even think was possible, also glassed his girlfriend.
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:38 |
|
Seagull posted:was greg bird the one who peed in he own mouth No that was Todd Carney, Greg Bird peed on a police car (and glassed his gf).
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:38 |
|
sounds like a poo poo bloke which is appropriate
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:42 |
|
Tokamak posted:No that was Todd Carney, Greg Bird peed on a police car (and glassed his gf). what the gently caress is wrong with footballers (hint: everything)
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:46 |
|
|
# ? Jun 9, 2024 13:19 |
|
quote:Just for the detail oriented Politics Live reader, rounding out the oops, further and better particulars on Greg Bird to educate both myself, and other readers who aren’t standing start Greg Bird experts. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2015/may/11/senate-pushes-back-on-childcare-changes-ahead-of-budget-politics-live Seems a rather harsh comparison
|
# ? May 11, 2015 05:49 |