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Fried Chicken posted:Google "Iraq intelligence work group stove piping" and you should have a good start. They created a special group paralleling the work of the intelligence community that, rather then being reviewed and checked by the experts, went straight to the White House. The group was filled with think tank apparatchiks instead of intelligence people, and somehow what they found in the course of their amateur sleuthing exactly matched what they had written policy papers on before. Then when r intelligence community did check their work and found it was bullshit, it didn't matter because theirs was in desks months ago and was already being used in media appearances I think the downing street memo puts it the most simply and best describes exactly how the Bush white house operated, both in terms of the Iraq war and in general.
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Warcabbit posted:As someone running one of those companies, except even more next generation and next wave, with, er, a sort of socialist and collective directive stolen partially from Proctor and Gamble, I have to see this. What was the answer, by the way? They're essentially always exempt.
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Fried Chicken posted:Google "Iraq intelligence work group stove piping" and you should have a good start.
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Fried Chicken posted:Google "Iraq intelligence work group stove piping" and you should have a good start. They created a special group paralleling the work of the intelligence community that, rather then being reviewed and checked by the experts, went straight to the White House. The group was filled with think tank apparatchiks instead of intelligence people, and somehow what they found in the course of their amateur sleuthing exactly matched what they had written policy papers on before. Then when r intelligence community did check their work and found it was bullshit, it didn't matter because theirs was in desks months ago and was already being used in media appearances Also, if you're in the mood for an aneurysm, watch the interview Jon Stewart did with her one or two weeks ago. The woman is a goddamn joke, but an infuriating one.
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ufarn posted:Incidentally, Seymour Hersh reported this for The New Yorker - sane Hersh whose OBL piece from yesterday is blowing up. Yeah, it's blowing up despite being rejected by the New Yorker for shaky sourcing.
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Rygar201 posted:Yeah, it's blowing up despite being rejected by the New Yorker for shaky sourcing. When did accuracy ever matter to the Fox News crowd?
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Hersh also once claimed while speaking to the ACLU that he had heard audio tapes of children being raped in Abu Ghraib. I don't think he ever mentioned this again.
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richardfun posted:Also, if you're in the mood for an aneurysm, watch the interview Jon Stewart did with her one or two weeks ago. The woman is a goddamn joke, but an infuriating one. Yeah I was going to recommend this. The Daily Show's website has a 20 minute version of this interview that is basically Stewart holding her feet to the coals.
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Nativity In Black posted:Yeah I was going to recommend this. The Daily Show's website has a 20 minute version of this interview that is basically Stewart holding her feet to the coals. Link? E: Link. Nth Doctor fucked around with this message at 14:54 on May 11, 2015 |
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ufarn posted:Incidentally, Seymour Hersh reported this for The New Yorker - sane Hersh whose OBL piece from yesterday is blowing up. Surprised it took as long as it did for this piece to finally become relevant. I was actually starting to wonder why the typical conspiracy theorists weren't all over the OBL raid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQhDkfRY90
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Get in early because the OBL raid is gonna be summer 2015s hot new conpiracy theory fashion! Throw out those dingy outdated 9/11 truther slacks. So 2008~
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Hadaka Apron posted:Hersh also once claimed while speaking to the ACLU that he had heard audio tapes of children being raped in Abu Ghraib. I don't think he ever mentioned this again. Don't forget the article he wrote a few years back about US special forces moving into Iran.
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Wow, that "sane" typo was some Freudian slip. EDIT: We've also hit Peak Glenn Greenwald on Twitter btw. ufarn fucked around with this message at 16:01 on May 11, 2015 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Pictured: "libertarians" learning about Rand's stances on social issues. It may surprise you to learn this but many techbro libertarians are incredibly homophobic, transphobic, and racist!
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Shageletic posted:Don't forget the article he wrote a few years back about US special forces moving into Iran. I missed that one, but I did see the one about special forces really being run by Opus Dei and the one about us flying Iranian terrorists in to Nevada so we could train them before sending them home for the Iranian government to order them to do whatever
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 The Christie campaign. Being corrupt is one thing, but being corrupt and ridiculous is another.quote:Chris Christie’s expense account tells a story of appetite and ambition, one that pits government waste versus the New Jersey governor’s waistline.
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That surgery really paid for itself.
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to put that in perspective he bought about 1.5k in food a month in groceries. not eating out. regular rear end groceries.
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May 11, 2015 16:55
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in fairness, wegmans is awesome
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:in fairness, wegmans is awesome It's true, and it's possible a lot of it was the $8 a pound prepared food, too, which can get pretty pricey.
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Still, for the kind of weight loss a guy with presidential ambitions should be shooting for, 85 pounds over two years isn't terribly impressive. Penn Jillette lost more than that in three months on a program without even any surgery. That was an extreme program under strict medical supervision, sure, but Christie has had at least equal resources with over 8x the amount of time Penn had. Perhaps he's just relying on the lap band to tame things, without actually changing his eating habits much?
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TheBalor posted:Still, for the kind of weight loss a guy with presidential ambitions should be shooting for, 85 pounds over two years isn't terribly impressive. Penn Jillette lost more than that in three months on a program without even any surgery. That was an extreme program under strict medical supervision, sure, but Christie has had at least equal resources with over 8x the amount of time Penn had. Perhaps he's just relying on the lap band to tame things, without actually changing his eating habits much? I'm on track to lose exactly that amount by October this year from December of last year and I'm not even trying that hard tbh.
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Pinterest Mom posted:
"Leave the memo. Take the cannoli."
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Nativity In Black posted:Yeah I was going to recommend this. The Daily Show's website has a 20 minute version of this interview that is basically Stewart holding her feet to the coals.  That's definitely Jon Stewart basically unloading with a decade worth of "you lied so we went into Iraq." That must have been cathartic.
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FAUXTON posted:
Yeah, that was a good interview. Didn't seem to make much of a dent in her denials though.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:in fairness, wegmans is awesome Doubt that. All American grocers not named HEB are essentially soviet queue buildings.
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Nonsense posted:Doubt that. All American grocers not named HEB are essentially soviet queue buildings. Sounds pretty awesome to me...
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My understanding is that Miller accurately reported inaccurate information. I'd like to believe she is scum so please tell me how it was more malicious.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:My understanding is that Miller accurately reported inaccurate information. I'd like to believe she is scum so please tell me how it was more malicious. She made it all up, and her in any way defending herself or her reporting is like listening to Rand Paul explain the Civil Rights Act's dangers. You simply do not listen to her, she is scum and works for WND/Newsmax.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:My understanding is that Miller accurately reported inaccurate information. I'd like to believe she is scum so please tell me how it was more malicious. in denial about being the mouthpiece by which the war was sold to the public
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GIF of the Day: (A Rand Paul staffer licks the camera of a "tracker" attending one of Paul's events.)
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DaveWoo posted:GIF of the Day: I want there to be many barriers between this staffer and me.
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Nonsense posted:Doubt that. All American grocers not named HEB are essentially soviet queue buildings. HEB while awesome, based a bunch of their store layouts and procedures on wegmans iirc.
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http://bradblog.com/?p=11172 Interesting article about media coverage and Bernie Bern.
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Pinterest Mom posted:
I dont think I could spend $1.5k a trip to wegmans even if I tried
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Ohtsam posted:HEB while awesome, based a bunch of their store layouts and procedures on wegmans iirc. Having spent years using both, they are both very nice and very similar.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:NBC is backing up parts of Hersh's story on the death of UBL. How much is this going to damage Hillary's candidacy? Not at all. Hersh is a has-been douche bag and nobody cares about his reporting at this point. To quote Charles Pierce at Esquire, "OBL is still dead and at the bottom of the ocean". More important question. Can Ted Cruz speak Spanish or not? If he can't, why didn't he just tell Halperin that? radical meme fucked around with this message at 23:21 on May 11, 2015 |
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