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Effectronica posted:contrary to what white nerds think, the end of sati in india didn't happen because the british imposed it on the populace, but because large parts of the populace found it repugnant as well yeah same thing with the end of the caste system. Oh wait that isn't over yet?
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V. Illych L. posted:i really dislike this generalisation of discrete "waves" of feminism, because it leaves out a ton of stuff that was going on at the same time as (in particular) america was doing their whole "waves" thing 4th wave feminism is selfies
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V. Illych L. posted:i really dislike this generalisation of discrete "waves" of feminism, because it leaves out a ton of stuff that was going on at the same time as (in particular) america was doing their whole "waves" thing i agree but marxist-feminists and radical feminists were by no means the dominant political force of feminism in the era categorized as 2nd wave feminism
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i mean, poo poo, kollontai, luxemburg and zetkin were doing their thing roughly concurrently with the english "1st wave" and lol@ the notion that those gals were insensitive to class issues
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Jagchosis posted:i agree but marxist-feminists and radical feminists were by no means the dominant political force of feminism in the era categorized as 2nd wave feminism they were major forces in many countries, including france and the scandinavian countries
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Effectronica posted:contrary to what white nerds think, the end of sati in india didn't happen because the british imposed it on the populace, but because large parts of the populace found it repugnant as well you mean didn't just happen it obviously played a role but it was not a very common practice zoux posted:yeah same thing with the end of the caste system. Oh wait that isn't over yet? the anti-caste policy school won out after the mutiny so it was never attacked aggressively basically the utilitarian colonial school got hosed in favour of the orientalist school which is why the indian aristocracy was left intact as well
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Disinterested posted:you mean didn't just happen it played a role in the speed with which it was reduced to a fringe practice, but indigenous movements against it already were forming before the beginning of the british conquests
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Effectronica posted:it played a role in the speed with which it was reduced to a fringe practice, but indigenous movements against it already were forming before the beginning of the british conquests ya
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more people should know about alexandra kollontai imo, she's mad impressive probably my favourite semi-obscure figure of the october revolution
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May 11, 2015 15:57
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V. Illych L. posted:they were major forces in many countries, including france and the scandinavian countries ya but western liberal feminism, and its associations with well, liberalism, was a big factor in feminist activism not taking off in the global south until more recently tho
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May 11, 2015 15:58
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i don't think that a culture deciding that it might be problematic to immolate widows necessarily absolves it of its other sins.
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May 11, 2015 15:59
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Jagchosis posted:ya but western liberal feminism, and its associations with well, liberalism, was a big factor in feminist activism not taking off in the global south until more recently tho possibly, i just took the opportunity to raise a pet peeve of mine i genuinely didn't comprehend what people were talking about re: the whole "waves" concept of feminism for the longest time because it jives so poorly with political feminism as it's been expressed where i'm from
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May 11, 2015 16:00
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I love when I make a form document and people don't read comments
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May 11, 2015 16:01
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zoux posted:also on npr this morning they had a story about how bad korea is for single mothers. like they are mega shunned and something like 90 pct of babies born to unwed mothers are put up for adoption. they interviewed a girl who was adopted by an american family and when she went back to korea to find her birth mom she discovered that it was her grandma that put her up for adoption while her mother was at work sounds like nutranurse's ideal country
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May 11, 2015 16:02
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new wave feminism: everythings all day-glo and girls, they wanna have fuh-un
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May 11, 2015 16:03
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V. Illych L. posted:possibly, i just took the opportunity to raise a pet peeve of mine scandinavia is so ahead of the curve it barely factors into my understanding of political feminism i used to have a job following swedish riksdag proceedings and reading the gender mainstreaming debates on every bill just warmed my loving heart. go scandinavia  fix the race/immigration thing tho
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paranoid randroid posted:new wave feminism: everythings all day-glo and girls, they wanna have fuh-un everything a woman thinks and does is empowering
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May 11, 2015 16:05
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 the next leader of the lib dems, everyone
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Badger of Basra posted:sounds like nutranurse's ideal country sounds like korean baby prices are plummeting
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Badger of Basra posted:
can we get one politician out of the UK who cant be described as "mushy-looking" in some capacity
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I'm really legit curious what India would have been like if Britain hadn't derailed from its pre 1857 trajectory in India. the aristocracy would have been expropriated and much more radical social reform would have taken place I suspect it would have caused india to fracture away from the sooner
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May 11, 2015 16:06
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Has there been any good news lately. Like maybe some humans won an election in Alberta maybe
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May 11, 2015 16:07
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Jagchosis posted:scandinavia is so ahead of the curve it barely factors into my understanding of political feminism realtalk, i actually have a lot of optimism re: race relations in norway, at least - sweden is a different issue, because they pushed earnest multiculturalism very hard for a while and are dealing with a pretty ferocious backlash. we have the major unions on our side, we have a solid parliamentary majority including the Institutional Party of Norway all agreeing that this is an issue that needs to be worked on, the racists have to resort to really shady sub-communication to get their point across, etc there's a way to go, but i think it's improving, little by little
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Badger of Basra posted:
i can't carry the party, mister clegg, but i can carry you 
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Jagchosis posted:i can't carry the party, mister clegg, but i can carry you
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Jagchosis posted:i can't carry the party, mister clegg, but i can carry you lol
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May 11, 2015 16:08
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Why the hell do I raise my pinkies off home row and let them hover
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May 11, 2015 16:08
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ZenVulgarity posted:Why the hell do I raise my pinkies off home row and let them hover my biggest typing sin is only ever using the left shift key
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May 11, 2015 16:09
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farage is staying on as head of ukip god drat it
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May 11, 2015 16:09
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i use my entire right hand but only like two fingers of my left
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Disinterested posted:farage is staying on as head of ukip didn't he vocally announce his resignation literally a couple of days ago
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Disinterested posted:farage is staying on as head of ukip lol seriously? didn't he promise he was going to resign?
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V. Illych L. posted:didn't he vocally announce his resignation literally a couple of days ago he did resign and his party said lol no you're staying
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May 11, 2015 16:10
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it seems like everyone in ukmt besides pissflaps is one bad election result away from literal mental breakdown
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May 11, 2015 16:12
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so basically he didn't actually want to go and wanted to save face about reneging on his resignation
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May 11, 2015 16:12
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i think i've found a new game to play. people seem to like the weird poo poo
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ReidRansom posted:so basically he didn't actually want to go and wanted to save face about reneging on his resignation the likeliest explanation it would make sense for ukip to pressure him to stay though since that party is farage's one man band
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zoux posted:also on npr this morning they had a story about how bad korea is for single mothers. like they are mega shunned and something like 90 pct of babies born to unwed mothers are put up for adoption. they interviewed a girl who was adopted by an american family and when she went back to korea to find her birth mom she discovered that it was her grandma that put her up for adoption while her mother was at work i thought that was more a big thing during the dicratorship
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