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Pornographic Memory posted:Vietnam '65 is fun but after a couple campaigns I felt like I'd done everything. I don't really like the hard limit on the length of campaigns, either, without an option to disable or lengthen them. Yeah - it's pretty frustrating, until something clicks and you have your supply lines in place and secure, and you're feeling good... and then something changes and you're back at it. The game always makes me feel desperate for more men and a lot more helicopters which is probably what it's like to manage logistics on the "big" side of a guerrilla war.
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Dandywalken posted:This one's got me suspect. 2 was sort of poo poo, but 1 was an absolute classic in my eyes. Some drat fine mods for it as well. The old CDV Blitzkrieg? Fun game, but I wish suppression was actually included and not a useless xml value.
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Chump Farts posted:The old CDV Blitzkrieg? Fun game, but I wish suppression was actually included and not a useless xml value. I just remember the multiplayer being an awesome yet unbalanced experience with the clash for initial positions in the middle being followed up by furious trench digging and minefield laying until a front extended across the whole map.
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SquadronROE posted:101st looks exactly to be what I want. Any idea where I could find it? You cannot secure it legally online unfortunately. Pointing you to it directly would be  but its out there. Alternatively, you can always order it on Amazon or eBay, as I can't find a place to order it from the developer's website. If you're lucky they might have a second hand copy for sale nearby. But you can pre-order the upcoming 82nd Airborne game, that nobody has heard of since 2008 and is still taking in $54.95 pre-orders. 
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May 10, 2015 15:08
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SquadronROE posted:So I saw that there's a Close Combat I never got to play. I always enjoyed the scale of those games (platoon level, maybe company). Is there a good turn-based WW2 squad or platoon level game out there that isn't Silent Storm? Tiller's Campaign series starts at platoon size and goes up from there. The pain of having to use cds to play makes me want to upgrade my goods (from the old talonsoft) to the matrix package. Supposedly there is a middle eastern based game in the works using the same game framework so it'll be fun to get my arab-israeli conflict on once it drops.
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May 10, 2015 15:30
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I'm driving across the country, listening to CV Wedgwood's "Thirty Years War" on audiotape. I want to play Pike and Shot so bad 
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Dammit_Carl! posted:Tiller's Campaign series starts at platoon size and goes up from there. The pain of having to use cds to play makes me want to upgrade my goods (from the old talonsoft) to the matrix package. I tried out the Campaign Series, but it was one of the ugliest things I'd seen. In the Rising Sun campaign, I literally couldn't even see most of the units because they blended in with the background. Maybe there's a button hidden in there somewhere to make it 2D/NATO/something other than a bad 3D mess, but... I couldn't find it.
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May 10, 2015 22:08
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Yup - its in there in the "keyboard 1-4 (or 5)" option which switches between 3d and 2d views. Only know that as I've got the books near me, which makes me sorry for the people coming along who will never get the chance to see, feel and use a honest-to-god old school player's guides which used to be a common thing. Some of those books were beautiful in their own way. Flip side to that is the stupid game protection stuff that existed too; "what symbol is at the bottom of page 34," or god help you, that crazy symbol/letter/phrase wheel thing that came with, "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe," I think. Those things never lasted or could be found past the first good transition from one house to another.
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May 11, 2015 00:59
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Drone posted:WinSPMBT / WinSPWW2 are both really Close Combat-y too. How many other people play these?
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COOL CORN posted:I tried out the Campaign Series, but it was one of the ugliest things I'd seen. In the Rising Sun campaign, I literally couldn't even see most of the units because they blended in with the background. Maybe there's a button hidden in there somewhere to make it 2D/NATO/something other than a bad 3D mess, but... I couldn't find it. Press B, or go to the menu and look for Display -> Unit Bases to place a little national insignia type standy base on your units. 
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gradenko_2000 posted:Press B, or go to the menu and look for Display -> Unit Bases to place a little national insignia type standy base on your units. Awesome! Thank you for that. I knew there had to be something.
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May 11, 2015 02:23
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OOB - Pacific is literally just Pazer Corps: The Island Hopping adventure and it's loving fantastic.
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Eskaton posted:How many other people play these? There were two goons doing a head-to-head game here not too long ago as Ethiopia vs. Eritrea and posting a turn-by-turn playback here in this thread, but they stopped doing it after a few turns (I wanna say one of them was Nenonen?)
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Drone posted:There were two goons doing a head-to-head game here not too long ago as Ethiopia vs. Eritrea and posting a turn-by-turn playback here in this thread, but they stopped doing it after a few turns (I wanna say one of them was Nenonen?) Yeah, me and Bates, but I haven't received a turn since February just after we started having some action 
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May 11, 2015 15:48
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Everything Strategy First publishes is 80% off, anything worth picking up?
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Graviteam Tactics is very nice if you don't have it already. The WW2 stuff is probably the most solid. I suppose it's somewhat similar to Close Combat with its turn based operational view with engagements in real time, with the major differences being that it's all on one absolutely enormous persistant 3D map, and it isn't an unchanged design from the mid 90s. The UI and controls are unbelievably unintuative so reading the manual is practically required to make any sense of it whatsoever, but once you get past that, it's pretty damned solid. The Angola and Soviets in Afghanistan DLCs are pretty interesting to see represented in games too, with slightly more modern (1960s-70s) equipment so those may be worth checking out. There's also a bizarre DLC focused on a tiny border skirmish between the Chinese and Soviets, which closely recreates a large area of barren, featureless mountainside with a single access road running along it in which some lightly armed Chinese border guards engage some mechanised Soviet border guards. Unique? Certaintly. A good idea for a campaign??? Regardless, they're all very cheap right now. 9th Company is apparently also fairly good for a weird janky Russian game. And Bad Rats. Cerebulon fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 11, 2015 |
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Yeah, I bought Graviteam hoping it'd be more like Close Combat, or a Steam available version of Combat Mission. It ain't. The interface is mind-bogglingly unintuitive. And you're not kidding about that Chinese campaign. I have no idea how its supposed to be playable given you basically have light infantry with RPG 2s vs Russian mechanised supported with a bunch of T62s. In basically wide open terrain 
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May 11, 2015 20:42
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Combat mission is to Graviteam as The Lion King is to a David Lynch movie
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Scourge of War Waterloo is coming out in a month. The interface actually seems improved, though the AI still looks iffy.
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May 11, 2015 23:02
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Dirt Worshipper posted:Combat mission is to Graviteam as The Lion King is to Manos: The Hands of Fate
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May 11, 2015 23:08
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I'd say the Lynch analogy is more apt. Like there's some good stuff there. The armour stuff is taken from their tank sim series if I recall (so it's fairly competent), and the models aren't terrible. It's just all so...incomprehensible though. Whenever I give orders, or think I'm giving orders at least, it's a crapshoot if I hit the right button, or if my troops will actually listen to me. It feels more like a vague suggestion simulator than a strategy game.
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May 11, 2015 23:33
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Registered my DC Case Blue steam key and noticed that it has the PBEM++ system, so I'd like to get a game going. Any takers? No preference on scenario or side.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:I'd say the Lynch analogy is more apt. Bought it, and already kinda regretting. Even at 80% off. Wasnt their tank sim series the T-72: Balkans on Fire one? Their original site had a huge part trying to say "No, no, no the T-72 was NOT a bad tank the Gulf War was not a good example!" which was pretty hilarious, albeit true.
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Dandywalken posted:Bought it, and already kinda regretting. Even at 80% off. Naw, it was this one: http://store.steampowered.com/app/286280/ Which explains why their modern campaigns had a weird Iran vs USSR one to shoehorn in M60A1s vs. T62s.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Naw, it was this one: Ahhh, gotcha. Kinda a neat campaign though for what its worth. On the note of Graviteam Tactics poo poo, how in the flying gently caress do I use mortars and offmap arty? I'm not having any luck versus entrenched inf without any arty to soften em with, and even loving recoiless rifles are kicking my APC's asses in Angola unless I commit an Olifant to shut it up.
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Alikchi posted:Registered my DC Case Blue steam key and noticed that it has the PBEM++ system, so I'd like to get a game going. Any takers? No preference on scenario or side. Yes, also no preference on side or scenario.
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Alchenar posted:Yes, also no preference on side or scenario. Challenge is up, Operation Uranus (short), password lljk. All default settings except Germans have Flieger divisions. I'm Soviets (I think). e: Also, the last time we played a DC game together you utterly destroyed me, so I look forward to the 6th Army holding Stalingrad! Alikchi fucked around with this message at 09:09 on May 12, 2015 |
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Naw, it was this one: Is this tank sim (steel armour) any good? I've been meaning to try it for a while. (it looks spergy enough for this thread)
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I just saw that there's finally a demo for CM: Black Sea, gonna hit that up and see if it finally pulls me in. I want to get into CM so badly but haven't invested the time into learning it. Which CM games are on the new 3.0 engine, just Black Sea / Red Thunder / Normandy with $10 upgrade? Do they have plans to upgrade the rest of their stuff?
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Drone posted:I just saw that there's finally a demo for CM: Black Sea, gonna hit that up and see if it finally pulls me in. I want to get into CM so badly but haven't invested the time into learning it. Italy is also upgradeable to 3.0. IMO it's the best WW2 CM game (haven't played RT, but I get overwhelmed by large numbers of units, so I'm sure I prefer Italy).
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I really love me some operational Cold/Modern wargames, but at the company level I just feel that the lethality and precision of modern weapons makes playing with them a bit boring - things that get spotted die. There's no real room for error or correcting mistakes. Plaster everything in sight with suppression fire and see what happens. It's a bit dull.
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Unimpressed posted:Italy is also upgradeable to 3.0. IMO it's the best WW2 CM game (haven't played RT, but I get overwhelmed by large numbers of units, so I'm sure I prefer Italy). I'm kinda the same way, maybe I'll just download a slew of CM demos and see what clicks.
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There are no demos in this genre! And if there are they certainly aren't representative of the full product! And even if they are, there's no way they can be factored into a final purchasing decision! For all the poo poo Battlefront does wrong, they seem to be the industry forerunner for practical demos. Hell, I think they've even patched the demos occasionally.
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Alchenar posted:I really love me some operational Cold/Modern wargames, but at the company level I just feel that the lethality and precision of modern weapons makes playing with them a bit boring - things that get spotted die. There's no real room for error or correcting mistakes. Plaster everything in sight with suppression fire and see what happens. It's a bit dull. I like modern, because when playing NATO-vs-third-world style scenarios, I can actually aim for a no/minimum casualty run, which pleases my OCD. I care for my little plastic armymen.  I also feel like someone should make a more abstracted game embracing the focus on concealment and communication. Basically a non-horrible Naval War: Arctic Circle. Or a better RUSE I guess.
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Drone posted:There were two goons doing a head-to-head game here not too long ago as Ethiopia vs. Eritrea and posting a turn-by-turn playback here in this thread, but they stopped doing it after a few turns (I wanna say one of them was Nenonen?) I'm up to play it too, then.
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One of my main beefs with SPMBT is I can't find a way to stop my tanks firing every single weapon at every single target. Like, you're an Abrams, why the hell are you firing your M240 at the front of every T80 you encounter  I mean, wasting ammo aside it's annoying as hell since it drags turns out so much with the firing animation and the pause for the drat ricochet sound every single time...
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:One of my main beefs with SPMBT is I can't find a way to stop my tanks firing every single weapon at every single target. Open the unit menu, with the list of weapons on it. Click each weapon you want to disable, and it'll turn blue. Issue I find is that you need to turn it back on, or it wont use that weapon to perform reaction fires, I think. Related: Anyone have any experience getting WinSP to run properly in windows 8? The color palatte problem is no longer an issue, but the window comes up squished, vertically.
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MrYenko posted:Related: Anyone have any experience getting WinSP to run properly in windows 8? The color palatte problem is no longer an issue, but the window comes up squished, vertically. Works totally fine for me right out of the box.. are you using the most-patched version?
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:One of my main beefs with SPMBT is I can't find a way to stop my tanks firing every single weapon at every single target. The funny thing is that you can do this and just need to learn how to, it's been possible since the original SP. You can do two things: 1) disable specific weapons by clicking them in the unit screen, for example disable a squad's RPG when you want to preserve it - this also works for reaction fire eg. if you don't want an AT unit to open fire with rifles so they remain hidden, while still engaging armour units that show up. 2) select a target (T) and then use just one weapon (eg. the main gun or the coax mg) against it (I think it's C or something, use the help feature).
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MrYenko posted:Related: Anyone have any experience getting WinSP to run properly in windows 8? The color palatte problem is no longer an issue, but the window comes up squished, vertically. Dunno about W8 but do you have Auto-Hide Taskbar on? If so, disable when you play. That's what causes it in W7 anyway.
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