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Flesh Forge posted:Well on the other hand, what the hell else would they be wandering past for. I dunno, what does anybody travel for? Maybe they're going to raid somebody else, or see their granny over in Grey Ant Braxo, or check out a cool cave somebody told them about, or whatever.
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It's Rimworld. They're probably wandering miles from their base and its overflowing stash of simple food in search of sweet sweet packaged survival meals.
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Khanstant posted:Will the raids become more complex than a bunch of idiots beelining it for your base, with the only additional challenge being volume and finding some dumb gimmick to deal with it? I would assume so.
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Found this on the world wide web: 
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Christ what a badly designed waste of steel and power. No line of sight break to stop snipers shooting in, no chunks on the outside edges to stop enemies using the wall cover, no corridor for safely and quickly falling back if the first line is overrun that enemies can't/won't follow, no walls between turrets to stop chain explosions. e: also well-timed daily changelog The Sapper raid strategy and pawn duties now basically work. The raid spawns with at least one sapper (who has grenades), paths into the colony through walls and avoiding turret fields of fire, and uses explosives and mining to pass any walls or other blockers in the way. Still lots of cleanup work to do on this.
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May 12, 2015 03:13
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Tommofork posted:The Sapper raid strategy and pawn duties now basically work. Awesome, all those dudes demanding a "fix for killboxing" will have it, only it isn't going to be "more powerful turrets" 
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I kind of hope they aren't smarter AND the same size as they are now. when forty guys pile through a random hole in your base defending it is going to be a nightmare.
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Flesh Forge posted:Awesome, all those dudes demanding a "fix for killboxing" will have it, only it isn't going to be "more powerful turrets" How would more powerful turrets ever fix killboxing?  That sounds like eat your way thin: the chocolate diet.Alaan posted:I kind of hope they aren't smarter AND the same size as they are now. when forty guys pile through a random hole in your base defending it is going to be a nightmare. Just based on the wording, I'm guessing sappers will be an alternate style of raid, like melee rushes are. It could be better to charge out and try to kill sappers before they get to your base, like it's far easier to kill a siege while they're still setting up. Also I've played open colonies before with no defensive walls or killboxing and they're viable. It really helps to have autodoors along each side of buildings so you can use them like firing ports, and duck out through the back when enemies get close. It is unfortunately micro-management hell though. e: literally the thing that drives me to killbox is avoiding the micro of large fights. I really enjoy the combat when it's small skirmishes though. Eediot Jedi fucked around with this message at 05:58 on May 12, 2015 |
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Tommofork posted:How would more powerful turrets ever fix killboxing? I don't know either but that is literally what some people have been consistently asking for. 
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Flesh Forge posted:Awesome, all those dudes demanding a "fix for killboxing" will have it, only it isn't going to be "more powerful turrets" I assume it's not the kill box itself they have a problem with if they are asking for better turrets, it's probably that you need several turrets to stop a decently sized raid, a single turret or two wont do much as they are now.
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The real thing he needs to do is add a "Suppression" bar, because currently the only reason killboxes are needed is because lategame you get a crowd of 30 bandits turn up who can walk through withering barrages of fire because the front couple of dudes take all the bullets each time as they advance. If people got suppressed when people shot at them or near them it would allow defence that doesn't revolve around focusing the fire of 20 colonists into the suicide rush to stop them getting behind your defences. It would probably mean he'd need to add a "prone" status effect to pawns though so that when they are suppressed they drop to the ground and move a lot slower, or retreat to a safe distance.
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Drone_Fragger posted:The real thing he needs to do is add a "Suppression" bar, because currently the only reason killboxes are needed is because lategame you get a crowd of 30 bandits turn up who can walk through withering barrages of fire because the front couple of dudes take all the bullets each time as they advance. If people got suppressed when people shot at them or near them it would allow defence that doesn't revolve around focusing the fire of 20 colonists into the suicide rush to stop them getting behind your defences. Yeah, a suppression system would hugely improve the combat, and it's honestly a pretty glaring omission considering how in-depth the tactics system is otherwise.
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You'd probably want to introduce some sort of 'bravery' stat too to mitigate suppression a little, as well as adding cover-based bonuses. Then make suppression a roll per incoming bullet or something. Thus, a brave bad guy running down your kill corridor may just charge you past two sentries, whereas a cowardly bad guy might cower behind cover in fear because of some dude with a handgun. Similarly, if your guy in cover is getting shot at by 10 bad guys he's probably not going to poke his head out nearly as often. You could even take this all the way to having a sort of combat-mood or morale, where your colonists will do a sort of combat-specific mental break (break and run, break and cower uselessly, break and berzerker rage)
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And then you need commissars in the back that shoot suppressed guys who are trying to crawl away 
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ChickenWing posted:You'd probably want to introduce some sort of 'bravery' stat too to mitigate suppression a little, as well as adding cover-based bonuses. Then make suppression a roll per incoming bullet or something. Thus, a brave bad guy running down your kill corridor may just charge you past two sentries, whereas a cowardly bad guy might cower behind cover in fear because of some dude with a handgun. Similarly, if your guy in cover is getting shot at by 10 bad guys he's probably not going to poke his head out nearly as often. A lot of cool lessons to be had from the old Close Combat series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Combat_%28series%29), they did a good shop with morale simulation, suppression, etc.
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Flesh Forge posted:And then you need commissars in the back that shoot suppressed guys who are trying to crawl away not empty quoting
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bonds0097 posted:A lot of cool lessons to be had from the old Close Combat series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Combat_%28series%29), they did a good shop with morale simulation, suppression, etc. Close Combat's morale and suppression system was amazing, and added a lot of depth to the game. It worked both ways, too - you could have guys get pinned down by heavy fire, or break and cower when their buddy got shot in the head next to them, but you could also have people break in the other direction, go berserk, and charge blindly at the enemy going 'RAAAAAAAAAA!' and firing wildly. In this game, you could integrate it into the existing mood and trait system - maybe have a trait that makes a pawn easier to suppress, another that makes them harder to suppress, one that makes them more likely to cower or run when their morale is broken, one that makes them more likely to go berserk when their morale is broken, etc.
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ahahahaha prepare for another fun alternative to constructing a killboxquote:May 13
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I just want to fill a cart full of explosives and accelerate it at relativistic speeds towards my enemies.
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Scratch that, I'd want a way to accelerate a spear wall at relativistic speeds towards my enemies. No need for explosives if the impact kills them dead just as spectacularly.
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Scratch that, I'd want a way to accelerate my enemies at relativistic speeds towards my enemies. No need for explosives or walls, the impact kills them dead just as spectacularly.
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Enemies accelerated at spear wall would be preferable, imo. Saves time on item/dinner recovery. I call it the autokebabber.
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OwlFancier posted:Enemies accelerated at spear wall would be preferable, imo. Saves time on item/dinner recovery. Combine with flame traps for instant bbq.
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It is annoying when all your guys are dunderheads and you just really need an intellectual dude, but all the raiding intellectual dudes die. I just need someone who can research or be a decent doctor 
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Watched a few lets plays of this by quill18 last night, but I was falling asleep. Looks like the kind of game I'd be into - is this basically Prison Architect + Dwarf Fortress + Xcomish IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE?
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This game really just needs to steal all of the traps from Evil Genius
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Gyshall posted:Watched a few lets plays of this by quill18 last night, but I was falling asleep. Looks like the kind of game I'd be into - is this basically Prison Architect + Dwarf Fortress + Xcomish IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE? It's currently only about a third of the sperg of Dwarf Fortress but on the other hand it only has about 5-10% of DF's clunk. It's a really wonderful game if you liked DF at all, and features are still being added all the time. The developer is also a lot more supportive of community mods than Toady has ever been.
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I'm really hoping it gets deeper relatively soon. I've enjoyed the bit I've played, but I was really hoping it was going to be "~future~ Dwarf Fortress without the clunk and with some sort of QoL" and it's not quite hitting the spot in that regard.
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Well, something like DF doesn't exactly come about in a normal game dev timeframe.
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I just had a colonist get put into, I guess, a permanent coma. If I remember correctly the only thing that was affected after she was healed was her consciousness, she never woke up. She was the cook. The only other colonist who could cook only had rating of 2. I abandoned the colony in sadness. You will be missed Melee The Chef.
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Foodahn posted:I just had a colonist get put into, I guess, a permanent coma. If I remember correctly the only thing that was affected after she was healed was her consciousness, she never woke up. She was the cook. The only other colonist who could cook only had rating of 2. I abandoned the colony in sadness. You will be missed Melee The Chef. Most likely a brain injury? Severe brain injuries make colonists completely useless.
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Tsyni posted:Most likely a brain injury? Severe brain injuries make colonists completely useless. Yeah. I've survived head shots but had the colonist go to permanent 0 consciousness afterwards.
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Alaan posted:Yeah. I've survived head shots but had the colonist go to permanent 0 consciousness afterwards. Right, I should say they aren't completely useless, think of the vital organs!
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Tsyni posted:Right, I should say they aren't completely useless, think of the vital organs! You monster. Build them a crypto sleep casket. Or their very own starship and launch them at a glitter world. e: or turn them into a really nice cowboy hat that thier former best friend can wear while cheering up everyone else over their death. Eediot Jedi fucked around with this message at 04:09 on May 17, 2015 |
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does anyone else just place little 1x1 growing zones on trees you want to get rid of to bypass the plant cutting labor entirely
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No? That sounds tedious as all hell.Rimworld Changelog posted:May 16th: You can now perform surgeries on non-prisoner guests. God drat this game. 
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This game is one of very few games that makes me want to be an evil as gently caress sociopath cutting people up and poo poo. Like good, I hope me harvesting your dude for organs make you mad; more meatbags to process  Normally I'm not like that at all and I care a lot for digital life.
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I've done some poo poo I'm not proud of when it comes to prisoners.
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My favorite colony is still the one where I made strictly segregated my colonists by "class", with a mostly useless leader (except for his social skills) in the most luxurious quarters, specialists in individual rooms, and everybody else in a big shared barracks. The very lowest class was the recruited tribals who I'd just leave in their tribal wear and continue equipping with primitive weapons, who were basically expendable cannon fodder. Other "civilized" recruits weren't treated much better if they didn't have a really high, in demand skills, aside from being given guns and whatever armor was left over after their betters had gotten theirs. It was really refreshing after playing a bunch of colonies where I'd reload my save after losing a particular, or even any, colonist in a fight. I did it before the "stuff" system or item quality/condition or even prosthetics, so it'd probably be even more awesome now sending tribals with peg legs wearing handed down rags into battle to fight for the protection of some rear end in a top hat who does no useful labor besides wardening prisoners and sleeps in a solid gold bed.
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