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No, seriously, do no more work for this company. Don't give them anything more than you have, which is basically your entire sanity. They don't deserve it. Let this douchebag worry about the problems he's brought upon himself. Don't ride it out. Don't prepare the company. THEY HAVE NOT DONE RIGHT BY YOU AS A PROFESSIONAL. Tell the C-levels that offered you a reference that this is at the advice of a medical practitioner and that your personal health and wellness cannot suffer any longer at the hands of their company. Take the battery out of the pager. Throw the pager out a window.
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insidius posted:I do not want to take the time off because I feel leaving my employer without an admin/network engineer s a very uncool thing to do until my replacement arrives, despite my resignation. You should probably leave this thread before people start peeing on you. Good luck with your life!
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insidius posted:I do not want to take the time off because I feel leaving my employer without an admin/network engineer is a very uncool thing to do until my replacement arrives, despite my resignation. gently caress you. Seriously, gently caress you and your well digging. "My job makes me want to kill myself literally but I wouldn't want to do something 'uncool' that they brought on themselves due to their own shortsighted assholery."
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May 12, 2015 15:57
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I really hate my job better write several novels about it to pass the time while I cry myself to death
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May 12, 2015 15:59
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Maybe I'm being a bleeding heart here but isn't the whole problem with Goon in a Well Syndrome is that the goon in the well doesn't realize it despite all the help and maybe there's a better way to get the goon to realize before we get to goons 15-20?
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May 12, 2015 16:01
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MJP posted:No, seriously, do no more work for this company. read this 50x until it sinks in and do it
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May 12, 2015 16:02
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MJP posted:Maybe I'm being a bleeding heart here but isn't the whole problem with Goon in a Well Syndrome is that the goon in the well doesn't realize it despite all the help and maybe there's a better way to get the goon to realize before we get to goons 15-20? I don't know how much more clear the helpful posts could have been.
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May 12, 2015 16:02
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Inspector_666 posted:I don't know how much more clear the helpful posts could have been. Not doubting the helpfulness of the posts. It's just that there's gotta be a way to bridge the gap between goon advice and the goon in the well to get them to grab the rope other than saying "here's the rope." Someone in his position is basically helpless to their own psychological state and might just be unable to fathom rational actions (rational to us) as actual solutions.
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Sickening posted:Keep digging. I cant, I am tired. insidius fucked around with this message at 03:58 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 12, 2015 16:06
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insidius posted:Yes. There's no reason not to literally protect your sanity. Quit the job. Here and now, over the phone, with the pager battery removed. Just do it. Up and do it right here and now. If you're an Aussie then it's the middle of the night there, and this is the best time to do it. Over voice mail. Seriously, leave the relevant HR person - or ANY HR person - a voice mail. Abandon the job. Send your apologies to the C-levels tomorrow and explain why you simply couldn't do another day. Take a week off. Go to Brisbane and spend the weekend there, it's a lovely city to walk around and chill out in. Do it, do it, do it. You can and should.
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May 12, 2015 16:08
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jesus christ man its not about revenge its about showing even the slightest bit of survival instinct. don't go there any more.
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May 12, 2015 16:09
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insidius posted:I do not want to take the time off because I feel leaving my employer without an admin/network engineer is a very uncool thing to do until my replacement arrives, despite my resignation. Jesus Christ, man, what is wrong with you ed: It's like a bad relationship, without even the benefit of great sex
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May 12, 2015 16:09
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No. Assuming it's legal, don't stay on until they bring on a replacement. Don't do on call work. Don't answer if he calls. Get any threatening emails or other correspondence, go to an employment lawyer. Show him everything, ask him if there is any legal reason you can't just not show up. When your boss calls and leaves threatening voicemails, save them. Don't post about the legal proceedings here. Lawyer up and shut up. You aren't to blame for your company being left without an admin. Your boss is, for dumping five people's workload on you. Being left in the lurch is the natural consequence of the choice he made. You aren't responsible for his mistakes. Edit: Also, keep going to therapy. 22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 16:14 on May 12, 2015 |
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Dude, just Don't Go Back.  "You'll never work in this industry again!" is the lamest threat ever. gently caress the company, let them drown in the mess you've been dealing with for the past 10 years. You owe this company nothing.
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May 12, 2015 16:09
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If you're looking for revenge though a huge dump on the guys desk would probably be therapeutic as gently caress
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May 12, 2015 16:13
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I will consider my options.
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May 12, 2015 16:15
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insidius posted:Yup, I went and saw my psychiatrist today instead of heading straight off to work. Partially to be fair due to the prodding from some here. It helped, I do not wish to bore you with the details but yes, I was smart enough to do this. Mate, listen to your psychiatrist and take the time off. I don't mean to be rude but you aren't well right now, you've spoke of stuff like suicide and you need to prioritise getting better over doing sys admin work. Working this job in any capacity is not going to help you get better. Off work is off work, no going to the office, no working from home, no on-call, nothing. Get signed off work, email a note to your boss or something and turn your phone off. If you don't have a work phone and only a personal one which you have this app on, then delete the app and put your phone on silent with no vibrate. Go relax a little. You owe them nothing.
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May 12, 2015 16:16
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Stay yo' rear end in that well I'm over you, goon
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May 12, 2015 16:16
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Don't lock yourself out of poo poo, don't tell him to take two weeks pay out of anything.
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CloFan posted:You owe this company nothing. Came in here to say this. All this talk about duty, obligation, and transition are a courtesy that is extended in a professional work environment. You are NOT in a healthy working environment, and therefore do not owe them gently caress ALL. Your rear end in a top hat boss psychologically abused and manipulated you into believing you literally can't leave or ~~bad things~~ will happen. You know what? They probably will. But that falls on the head of the C-Level execs charged with RUNNING the company, not the poor dude in IT who is completely overworked. Walk. Away. NOW. Edit: insidius posted:Going down this path I will need to speak with the CEO again, and by speak as I write this post I realise that means "I must spend my day tomorrow locking myself out of an entire infrastructure, compile an email informing him I will be leaving two weeks into my four weeks notice and that I will not be returning, take the two weeks out of my entitlements as you are entitled to do, Regards, your previous admin. STOP WORKING. Quit and WALK. Just keep telling yourself "I don't owe them anything." Locking yourself out is not your loving problem. mayodreams fucked around with this message at 16:21 on May 12, 2015 |
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May 12, 2015 16:18
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Write the email right now and go to sleep the happiest man in the world
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I feel really dumb. *edit* insidius fucked around with this message at 03:59 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 12, 2015 16:19
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You're learning, one step at a time, how to quit a job. Good on you.
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insidius posted:We do not have HR, I report directly to the CEO and have done for as long as I can remember, it may well be part of the issue. The issue that brought me here was quitting my job, I completed that part and gave them four weeks in which I would continue to work my arse off to ensure a smooth handover, hire my replacement, train existing staff. I have done every one of these things, the admin I have hired exceeds my skills in every way, I am happy with this. Dude, don't even lock out of anything. Cease immediately any professional obligation you have. Don't give yourself an unclean break. Leave a voice mail for the CEO right now. Pick up the phone and do it. Just do it. Don't think about it, don't post about it, don't post about thinking about it, read this and pick up the phone and leave him a voice mail. "I can't do this, I know I said four weeks but under medical advice, I am immediately terminating my employment. I can be reached at xxx-xxx-xxxx and insidius@domain.com - please let me know how I should go about turning in my equipment and picking up personal effects. If Evil Person Dude is still present, I would like to work around a time that he is unavailable should my presence be required." insidius posted:Its done. I will end this tomorrow. I will spend my day locking myself out of everything, I will communicate with the vendors to have them assist where they can until my replacement arrives, I will create replacement administrative place holder accounts to be given to my replacement and I will inform my CEO that I will not be returning as of COB. No, just don't even go in at the start of business. Don't spend the day doing anything but sitting around at home not being employed by these people. Don't even think about it. Follow these steps: 1) Leave your C-level person a voice mail saying you can no longer function at work and thus you are regretfully terminating your employment immediately. Leave your contact info. 2) Send your C-level an e-mail reiterating what you just left a voice mail. 3) Remove the pager battery. 4) Tomorrow, make arrangements to see a lawyer. Then go get some Bundy and get on a plane to a beach. MJP fucked around with this message at 16:23 on May 12, 2015 |
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insidius posted:Yes. Quit!. Last year, I was also stuck in a well. And came to this place to ask for advice. Everyone said to quit and get my money back, some even offered to help me laywer up. The next day I went to work, I sat down and talked with my boss about the money he owed me. He started berating me for asking for my money (I wasn't paid for 9 months*). Telling me I was a greedy guy who only wants money. i'm throwing away the best chance I'll ever get etc... I quit that day. and kept phoning him everyday until i got my money. The day I quit felt horrible because of how he berated me. The next day I woke up. I felt an immense amount of relief. I was no longer working for free. I wasn't on call anymore. I could stop getting terrified any time my phone rang. I had no responsibility anymore. It felt great. My mental and physical health improved alot. Take it from me, another goon who was stuck in a well. Just leave. you owe him nothing. Now i´m doing a wonderful intern ship for which i´m getting paid and have gotten 2 jobs offers I can start in the summer after I graduate. It can only get better. *took 3 months but i at least got my money and have never looked back.
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This was not really very interesting.
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Then do it, don't post about it. Post when you have done it. You are good at articulating. Articulate the details of how it felt to write that "I quit" email and leave that "I quit" voice mail, and how you told them IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that you will NOT BE RETURNING TOMORROW OR ANY OTHER DAY. Tell us about those after you have done them right now!
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i just want to say that you're not dumb or stupid, you are in an abusive relationship. it is absolutely normal to blame yourself or feel like you owe your abuser something when this happens, but you dont owe your abuser anything, and it is absolutely not your fault that they are maggot scum.
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pointers posted:i just want to say that you're not dumb or stupid, you are in an abusive relationship. it is absolutely normal to blame yourself or feel like you owe your abuser something when this happens, but you dont owe your abuser anything, and it is absolutely not your fault that they are maggot scum. That's it - that's what I was trying to articulate. He's not a goon in a well, he's a battered spouse.
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Man, I thought I have worked for some dysfunctional people. Anyways, yay, I decided to take the job at the manufacturing company. Put in my 2 weeks just a minute ago. Will be nice to get a $10k/yr raise and get out of the MSP game.  Thanks for the advice, gentle goons.
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high six posted:Man, I thought I have worked for some dysfunctional people. Fuckin' A, finally some good news itt
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May 12, 2015 16:45
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Yo just quit your job and take your girlfriend out to a nice steak dinner. This goes for everybody.
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Tailored Sauce posted:Yo just quit your job and take your girlfriend out to a nice steak dinner. BRB quitting my job (which I kind of like? But I must obey). Also wife is vegetarian. This advice sucks. Oh well too late now.
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insidius posted:Yes. You are a loving idiot and I believe you deserve every bit of torture you receive from this job.
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It's a job, just a job, ain't the end of the world, you're working on IT, there's another bunker you can scuffle off to in case of an emergency, you paid your dues, it won't look bad on your resumé saying you left after x years. Quit and take some prolonged vacations.
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This topic has run its course, on to the next thing. Guys should I go to college?
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:This topic has run its course, on to the next thing. how old are you? college is just a thing you need to do to attain a certain level of employability, but if you're already great at what you do, focus on that instead
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College is fun.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:This topic has run its course, on to the next thing. College is for gayfers yes
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Sickening posted:You are a loving idiot and I believe you deserve every bit of torture you receive from this job. gently caress you, what the gently caress is this poo poo. He is literally an abuse victim. People who are abused are not at fault for being abused, and they are not idiots and not doing anything wrong. There is some serious medical and psychological poo poo going on that he needs professional help with and should do that, but it's not as easy as telling someone to "just leave". You don't tell abuse victims that they're "loving idiots", jesus goddamn christ. I sometimes can't believe the selfishness, arrogance, ignorance, and misogyny that comes into this thread occasionally but you're taking the loving cake right here.
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