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krispykremessuck posted:holy poo poo :smileyfaceRamboGuy:
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May 12, 2015 05:34
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:
 Welcome back though.
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May 12, 2015 06:33
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:enlisting with a degree isn't always bad because we haven't done active duty OCS boards in YEARS from a recruitment standpoint, just saying. Ok...nevermind then.
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May 12, 2015 07:50
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I mean, he's technically right. Sometimes recruiters say things that are wrong because they are insanely retarded, not because they are lying.
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May 12, 2015 08:30
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Larry Parrish posted:I mean, he's technically right. Sometimes recruiters say things that are wrong because they are insanely retarded, not because they are lying. This is true.
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May 12, 2015 16:50
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Larry Parrish posted:I mean, he's technically right. Sometimes recruiters say things that are wrong because they are insanely retarded, not because they are lying. People who join the military are generally really loving stupid and only hear what it is they want to hear. A recruiter can use a little bit of misdirection and the vast majority of applicants are too dull to notice their question went unanswered because they are watching dudes in dress blues slay dragons.
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May 12, 2015 16:59
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:People who join the military are generally really loving stupid and only hear what it is they want to hear. A recruiter can use a little bit of misdirection and the vast majority of applicants are too dull to notice their question went unanswered because they are watching dudes in dress blues slay dragons. Yes. Thank you. I don't think I've met a recruiter who simply lies for the sake of a contract or anything deliberately evil or wrong. Personally I've been maybe too honest and its costs me some contracts but IDGAF. That being said, if you ask me to sign you up, you're qualified, and everything check outs, I don't feel the need to question you or some of your logic. Don't look a gift horse (stupid teenager) in the mouth if he thinks he has what it takes to be a RANGER.
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May 12, 2015 17:03
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:That being said, if you ask me to sign you up, you're qualified, and everything check outs, I don't feel the need to question you or some of your logic. Don't look a gift horse (stupid teenager) in the mouth if he thinks he has what it takes to be a RANGER.  i was just about to say the day i walked into the recruiters office, i said i wanted infantry with the ranger option or i wasn't joining, and i'm pretty sure aside from talking for a bit when we first met, he never tried to dissuade me, and everything was really straight forward. i definitely remember him saying something about my ASVAB being high enough to get into intel or something and i just looked at him and he never did it again, but i'm pretty sure that was day 1.
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May 12, 2015 22:34
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Volkerball posted:
just be aware that option 40 is not always available and we dont have secret jobs that we hide from people to fill others, we have no quotas as far as MOS that we see, thats all done at way higher levels. So if your recruiter says its not there, he isn't loving with you. Its a common misconception that we deal with  .I'll put a 99 AFQT into cook if that's what he wants and its available, sometimes its just not there!
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May 13, 2015 01:22
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Mine kept pushing me towards undesignated airman, undesignated seaman, and cook. When I left he magically had the job I wanted so I guess ymmv.
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May 13, 2015 01:57
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:just be aware that option 40 is not always available and we dont have secret jobs that we hide from people to fill others, we have no quotas as far as MOS that we see, thats all done at way higher levels. So if your recruiter says its not there, he isn't loving with you. Its a common misconception that we deal with I asked for Navy Seal Culinary Specialist but I settled for IT.
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May 13, 2015 02:05
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I asked for an officer recruiter but got told I was too old so here I am!
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May 13, 2015 02:09
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Pandasmores posted:Mine kept pushing me towards undesignated airman, undesignated seaman, and cook. When I left he magically had the job I wanted so I guess ymmv. well the army doesnt have undesignated as a choice for new enlistees
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May 13, 2015 02:13
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popejackson posted:Does anyone have any experience with the Army's Green to Gold program? I enlisted with a bachelors degree and want to get my masters. What type of qualifications would make me more competitive for a commission? I did it. There are three different Green to Gold options; active duty, scholarship, and non-scholarship. What was your undergrad GPA and what's your PT score?
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May 13, 2015 20:33
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:well the army doesnt have undesignated as a choice for new enlistees 18x, 
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May 13, 2015 20:42
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Whipped Buttcheeks posted:I did it. There are three different Green to Gold options; active duty, scholarship, and non-scholarship. What was your undergrad GPA and what's your PT score? I have 2 bachelor's with a 3.06 GPA (Extremely bad freshman year, really regretting dicking around instead of going to class). But I also have college credits with a much higher GPA from the associate degree I picked up at DLI so maybe it slightly averages out? 290 PT score, I'm hoping to max out at some point this year. No deployments or practical work experience in my MOS. I was in AIT 6 months ago. I'm sure that matters because I haven't proven myself. Can you tell me about your experience with that program? Thanks sir. popejackson fucked around with this message at 02:14 on May 14, 2015 |
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May 14, 2015 02:12
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The program is great if you plan on staying in the Army or if you want to get out early and join the Guard/Reserve. It was a a two year vacation from active duty. College is easy after playing Army for awhile. If you have the drive to get through the application process, you'll be fine getting through ROTC. The active duty and scholarship options are competitive. There's an online packet application where you upload all your stats and supporting documents, they hold the board, and if you get selected you either PCS (active duty option) or ETS and go into the IRR (scholarship option) at the start of your Fall semester. The nonscholarship option is an administrative discharge under the provisions of AR 600-35, 16-2. You get accepted to grad school, the Professor of Military Science (LTC) at the university's ROTC program writes you a letter of acceptance promising to contract you, and you submit a packet w/ a 4187 for your Brigade commander to sign. You need to have 2 years TIS on the day you ETS for school. You take the whole package to transitions and you ETS into the IRR for either the Fall or Spring semesters. You can also join the Army Reserve or National Guard with this option. Because you are a graduate student, your undergrad GPA only matters for getting accepted into the program. For accessions (competing for an active duty vs. reserve commission, competing for your branch), ROTC will only use your graduate GPA. The Active Duty option requires you to serve as an active duty officer no matter. For the scholarship and nonscholarship options, you have to compete for active duty.
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May 14, 2015 15:01
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Whipped Buttcheeks posted:The program is great if you plan on staying in the Army or if you want to get out early and join the Guard/Reserve. It was a a two year vacation from active duty. College is easy after playing Army for awhile. If you have the drive to get through the application process, you'll be fine getting through ROTC. Thanks for the info, very much appreciated. Apparently there were only 75 slots this year for Active Duty option, and less expected next year. That's a bummer. I will still be submitting a packet though. I'd rather try out and get rejected than always wonder if I would have made it through the selection board. popejackson fucked around with this message at 08:41 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 08:38
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popejackson posted:Thanks for the info, very much appreciated. You can prep for both, so long as your chain of command supports you. Submit an ADO/scholarship packet to the board and have a non-scholarship packet complete on stand by. If you get turned down at the board, you walk the packet in for your brigade commander's signature and take it down to Transitions. How long did you enlist for, anyway?
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May 15, 2015 11:30
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Whipped Buttcheeks posted:You can prep for both, so long as your chain of command supports you. Submit an ADO/scholarship packet to the board and have a non-scholarship packet complete on stand by. If you get turned down at the board, you walk the packet in for your brigade commander's signature and take it down to Transitions. How long did you enlist for, anyway? I enlisted for 5 years, I'm just about at the half way mark. I am thinking of staying in for a while because I don't have great job prospects as a civilian.
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May 18, 2015 02:11
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popejackson posted:I enlisted for 5 years, I'm just about at the half way mark. I am thinking of staying in for a while because I don't have great job prospects as a civilian. my god. You're every SNCO's wet dream come to life.....someone scared of life prospects outside of the military. there's always better options than reenlisting. worse case, you could run & maintain a foodcart like meowlins/MrNice when you get out. .....and meowlins is essentially a patchwork frankstein IRL at this point, held together by sheer will & VA healthcare.
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May 18, 2015 02:38
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man i was totally gonna set up a churro cart here when i get out
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May 18, 2015 02:44
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popejackson posted:I enlisted for 5 years, I'm just about at the half way mark. I am thinking of staying in for a while because I don't have great job prospects as a civilian. construction, machinery, oil fields, railroads. don't give me that bullshit.
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May 18, 2015 02:46
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:man i was totally gonna set up a churro cart here when i get out There are two competing taco trucks that set up outside my building every day. They both have to be filthy loving rich, even at $1 a taco.
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May 18, 2015 02:58
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It takes balls to set up a food cart.
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May 18, 2015 03:00
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ya bro everyone in the military is secretly well-adjusted and capable of making it on their own in the civilian world. Hell, just think of all those outstanding Staff NCOs you meet on a daily basis. They could be out here with us, making it in construction, machinery, oil fields, railroads.. but no. They stay to lead other super-capable young men and women. How selfless of them. Keep in mind this forum is full of people banking high disability and (happily) doing nothing with their lives or banking low disability and pursuing their dreams. If you aren't gonna get a check every month and have zero ambition, just stay the gently caress in. Who cares?
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May 18, 2015 03:00
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Volkerball posted:construction, machinery, oil fields, railroads. don't give me that bullshit. I don't have the aptitude to do any of those things or most things that require a lot of physical labor. The Army hasn't been that bad thus far, I'm doing a lot better financially since I joined up. It's not the best situation but at least I'm not living paycheck to paycheck and worrying about having a roof over my head anymore. But yeah....I hosed up by not sticking with STEM. 
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May 18, 2015 03:20
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Just what the work force needs: more lazy dumb people. Stay in the military.
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May 18, 2015 04:58
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popejackson posted:I don't have the aptitude to do any of those things or most things that require a lot of physical labor. The Army hasn't been that bad thus far, I'm doing a lot better financially since I joined up. It's not the best situation but at least I'm not living paycheck to paycheck and worrying about having a roof over my head anymore. If you're going to stay in, make sure you get something out of the army. Be it a good duty station, big reenlistment bonus, cool reclass MOS. Get something. Don't just stick around and get hosed. Walk away whenever it's not helping you. Never sign away more than a couple years at a time unless it's for something really good. You have all the control if you just keep doing stabilization once you get to a good spot.
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May 18, 2015 19:06
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Idk, you could use whatever COOL program your branch has to look at things that could form job progression in the outside world. I thought there was nothing in there for me and then I found out I could get a certification to make more money doing the same gig. A lot of people (mostly patients) I've spoken too that are frightful of their job prospects outside of the military haven't even thought about it past "gently caress, how can I apply myself when I've been pulling weeds and painting rocks for loving ever?" when they still have the option of using the GI Bill and figuring poo poo out. What are your interests? What's your goal as far as making money? What makes you happy? You can probably find a middle ground if you just list the things you enjoy and what you could get a degree/certificate to work in. Some guys find their calling in a lab for an evil corporation like Monsanto, others find happiness in being a realtor or car salesman. If reenlisting will give you more time go for it. If you want to get out cause you can't stand the military mindset then get out and bank unemployment while you figure life out. TDRL: Figure out what you're going to do/what you want, if you have to stay in while you do it then gently caress it, sign up but do it intelligently/without your head up your rear end.
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May 18, 2015 19:38
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May 19, 2015 02:58
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I'm going to FULL SAIL UNIVERSITY to learn how to make VIDEO GAMES. THEY SENT ME FREE GAME dEMOs
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May 19, 2015 03:02
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One of my friends enlisted with a degree, to be in the Navy's nuclear program. Preferably on a submarine. His plan is to use the Navy experience to help get a civilian job at his nuclear power plant of choice. For reasons, he couldn't get in as a nuclear officer, but he was gung ho about enlisting. Based on my own experiences as a filthy enlisted peasant, I warned him that enlisting is lame regardless of MOS/AFSC. Cole provided a nuanced and thought provoking suggestion:Cole posted:Holy poo poo lmao Godholio posted:This, but post the essay. He agreed to do it, but I never got it before he shipped to boot. And then a letter arrived today. Cole, this is for you. quote:I am enjoying boot camp as far as anyone can enjoy it. You asked me about expectations about the Navy, well I was way off about boot camp to start. I went to the gym as much as I could, worried that I would have a hard time with a physically demanding exercise regimine, but it has been really easy. Our first PFA I passed easily although surprisingly more than half failed. We are lucky if we get PT every other day. I'd say boot camp is more boring and annoying than anything else. I'll ask him again in a couple years, as he counts down the days to ETS, but I assume it will be: quote:gently caress the Navy and gently caress you for letting me enlist. Ninjaedit: bolded for the part that will never ever change no matter where you go in the military. Arc Light fucked around with this message at 11:11 on May 19, 2015 |
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May 19, 2015 11:09
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Kandak Sayaqa posted:One of my friends enlisted with a degree, to be in the Navy's nuclear program. Preferably on a submarine. His plan is to use the Navy experience to help get a civilian job at his nuclear power plant of choice. For reasons, he couldn't get in as a nuclear officer, but he was gung ho about enlisting. Based on my own experiences as a filthy enlisted peasant, I warned him that enlisting is lame regardless of MOS/AFSC. Cole provided a nuanced and thought provoking suggestion: Sounds about right. Good time of year to go through boot too.
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May 19, 2015 11:59
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For all the too scared of the outside world, usajobs.gov and enjoy retirement in twenty. There's a thread in it and everything. We got your back, but so help you if you don't remember your 39 unique usernames and passwords. Love, Someone who couldn't get in and moved on
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Out of curiosity, has anyone known someone in the army/navy/airforce with a PhD who actually did research for the military? I found out that the Army and Navy both have Nursing PhD specialties. Right now nursing research isn't getting funded and finding jobs kinda sucks unless you're pulling some sick NIH grants to bring to your profession.
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Jun 1, 2015 02:45
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Nope. The military generally doesn't do it's own research. It's mostly contractors.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:05
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MurderBot posted:Out of curiosity, has anyone known someone in the army/navy/airforce with a PhD who actually did research for the military? I found out that the Army and Navy both have Nursing PhD specialties. Right now nursing research isn't getting funded and finding jobs kinda sucks unless you're pulling some sick NIH grants to bring to your profession. Research as their sole job or research in the course of pursuing their PhD?
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MurderBot posted:Out of curiosity, has anyone known someone in the army/navy/airforce with a PhD who actually did research for the military? I found out that the Army and Navy both have Nursing PhD specialties. Right now nursing research isn't getting funded and finding jobs kinda sucks unless you're pulling some sick NIH grants to bring to your profession. You can get into different research fellowships in the Navy but the funding for them depends entirely on how much the Navy is researching into a particular field. Even ones that seem to be important for the Navy, such as fellowships looking into combat trauma and poo poo. You're better off just staying on the outside making more money and just keeping an eye out for them, probably. Your pay would likely only change depending on incentives they put out for the bonuses, which also change in priority. It's one reason the Navy has a hard time keeping some doctors commissioned, the bonuses don't always match up with what's offered on the outside.
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