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Somebody's got to take on the crown of fellating the powerful now that Paul Thomas is gone.
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Guardian: "Steve Bell on the Tory-Lib Dem coalition – The general election campaign enters its final day with rows about what will happen on 8 May continuing" Telegraph: Election 2015: Q&A - what happens if no-one wins? Independent: David Cameron: Miliband would not be legitimate as PM if Labour came second Times: Mail: Mac on... Voting Labour on Thursday
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# ? May 6, 2015 00:44 |
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After how hosed they've been with the current coalition why would the Lib Dems stick with Cameron rather than join a Labor or Labor/SNP coalition? I simply don't get it. Though honestly at this point the most realistic answer in my opinion would be either a unity government or a minority government. I can't see either side pulling out a majority even with minor party support.
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# ? May 6, 2015 02:49 |
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Cloud Potato posted:Mail:
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Cloud Potato posted:Mail:
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IT'S GENERAL ELECTION DAY, GOONS! Don't forget to get out there and give a politician a kiss! x~ Guardian: "Steve Bell on the general election – Clegg indicated that he would not form a coalition with either the Tories or Labour that would not guarantee a majority in the House of Commons, but said a coalition government was “very likely”." Telegraph: Independent: Times: Mail: Mac on... Britain's nuclear weapons if Labour teams up with SNP
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# ? May 7, 2015 01:11 |
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Election 2015 results Guardian: "Steve Bell on the general election and the Queen's speech – Contrary to some reports, the monarch is expected to give Queen’s speech on 27 May even if there is a risk it will be overthrown the following week" Telegraph: Independent: Times: Mail: Mac on... The election results
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# ? May 8, 2015 02:29 |
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Guardian: "Martin Rowson on the general election result – Regarding the future of the UK itself, the task facing David Cameron is simply expressed – to keep the country together, not to force it apart" Telegraph: After Saatchi & Saatchi. Independent: After Bruegel. Times: Stephen Collins:
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# ? May 9, 2015 14:38 |
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Observer: "The price of David Cameron's victory - Chris Riddell on the stranglehold of the Conservative right on the prime minister" Sunday Telegraph:
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# ? May 10, 2015 01:52 |
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They really missed the opportunity to have a cartoon based on Salmond kicking the door down in Cameron's office and just shouting "You gonna debate me now!?" while he just swaggers in with a smug face.
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# ? May 10, 2015 02:02 |
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Cloud Potato posted:Observer: I like that David Cameron's leash is old rope. Maybe Riddell is getting better at this cartooning malarkey?
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# ? May 10, 2015 02:41 |
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Cloud Potato posted:Times:
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J_RBG posted:I like that David Cameron's leash is old rope. Maybe Riddell is getting better at this cartooning malarkey? All Cameron can really do is call their bluff by offering full fiscal autonomy straight away but that's not really the same as being their puppetmaster, it's a high-risk strategy that might work or might fail massively.
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# ? May 10, 2015 10:00 |
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Zephro posted:I don't quite get why he has Sturgeon on a leash. Honestly, the fact that Riddell hasn't included a paragraph-long speech bubble explaining exactly why Sturgeon is on a leash here probably counts as progress, so I'm okay with this.
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# ? May 10, 2015 10:54 |
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Zephro posted:I don't quite get why he has Sturgeon on a leash. If the SNP can influence the Tories (hint: they can't) then that's good for the SNP since it proves they can get concessions for Scotland as promised. If the SNP can't influence the Tories (which will actually happen) then that's good for the SNP since it supports their narrative that the Tories are shits and Westminster doesn't care about Scotland. Either way the SNP wins. I think it's meant more in the sense being constrained by than literally "on a leash like a pet". That a Conservative majority both constrains him by having to appease all the Tory promises on cuts and the EU referendum and constrains the SNP because they can't use their large contingent of MPs to stop him passing legislation. It's not a win-win for the SNP because they have literally won about as much as is every possible to and so now there's the risk that all people will see is that despite their bluster the SNP can't just wave a magic wand to get things done. We've reached peak SNP popularity so the game is about keeping their voters happy so things don't end up swinging back to Labour.
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# ? May 10, 2015 18:49 |
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They're a bit hosed really.
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Guardian: "Martin Rowson on the aftermath of the general election – The Liberal Democrats aim to begin their recovery from a disatrous election by choosing the successor to Nick Clegg by mid-July, with Tim Farron and Norman Lamb the frontrunners" Telegraph: Blair tells Labour: return to the centre ground to win again (I think the guy on the left is Chuka Umunna) Independent: Times:
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# ? May 11, 2015 00:45 |
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goatface posted:They're a bit hosed really. Preety much. Everyone thought that Labour would of gotten in by coliation or minority including the SNP. What they didn't expect was the Tories having a slim majority, making any sort of influence very short then they predicted to have. It's possible that rebels in the Tory benches may give opportunity for the opposition to exploit, they just have to wait for the Tories to get into disagreement with each other. How this plays to the hands of the SNP I have no idea. The idea of stopping the tories from getting into power while choosing a diffierent party then Scottish labour appealed to Scottish voters but it no doubt raised concern for the English voter becuase they were either lead into believing that the SNP would end up breaking the union or turn England 'leftish'. Combine that with Labour's poor performance, a uncharismatic leader, lots of the rural areas of England being tory strongholds and the press as well. However this could be another thing for the SNP too use towards their advantage. The Tories getting into power has pissed off a lot of Scots. With the amount of anti-scottish sentiment starting to rise, misunderstandings towards the politics of scotland and getting berated for choosing a different alternative. Scots attitudes towards england will only get even more negaitive to the point that anti-english sentiment will mostly be attributed to anger and dissatisfaction with not only Westminister but the voter base in England. Of course there are areas in England that voted towards Labour all the time like the North East and have a negative attitude towards the south and rural areas which of course Scots sympathise with. However the more England turn towards the likes of either the Conservatives or UKIP while Scotland remains in the left/left-center attitude and Scotland receiving the consequences will further strain things to the point they will just blame England regardless even if it's solely Westminister's fault. Giving the SNP FFA without subsidies is a posioned chalice. They have no choice but to swallow it otherwise they would be going against their words. Now this is a What If scenario but the SNP's best chance is by thinking rationally while being lucky...no duh. If the SNP somehow (and I do mean somehow) manage to minimlise the damage or even unimaginably gain something out of it while retaining the same stuff as before then I assume public opinion will remain high and prove that the SNP can not only handle itself, but also prove that Scotland can manage by itself. Like I said, complete What If scenario that is unlikely to happen.
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# ? May 11, 2015 02:17 |
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Cloud Potato posted:Guardian: That Gove is adorable. I think it's the wig. Also, am I alone in this or is Milano one of the better cartoonists, at least technically? I don't agree with them always, but their style is gorgeous and almost always quite punchy
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Guardian: "Steve Bell on David Cameron's cabinet reshuffle – David Cameron has declared that he will lead a ‘ministry of all the talents’ after he appointed Tories from all wings of the party to the first Conservative-only cabinet in 18 years" After Murnau. Telegraph: After Hassall. Independent: After the 1922 Committee. Times: After Fragonard. Mail: Mac on... The SNP's election triumph Deep-fried Mars bar - Wikipedia
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# ? May 12, 2015 00:52 |
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Oh dear, I know someone who's going be upset about this...
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# ? May 12, 2015 01:15 |
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Cloud Potato posted:Independent: I wonder who was in third place?
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# ? May 12, 2015 02:03 |
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There used to be an upper class on first, then the middle class in second, and the working class in third. Now there is only the rich in first and the rest in second. We have thus reduced the number of classes, moving us that much closer to a truly class-free society!
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# ? May 12, 2015 02:13 |
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It is pretty lovely. Here in Canada French Canadians have been able to elect their own independence party to parliament and people mostly restrained themselves from screaming about frogs' legs and drawing them all wearing striped shirts and berets.
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Whatever happened to Australian cartoons? Abbot is a godsend face for cartoonists and I wouldn't mind seeing more of it without venturing into the general politoon thread.Dolash posted:It is pretty lovely. Here in Canada French Canadians have been able to elect their own independence party to parliament and people mostly restrained themselves from screaming about frogs' legs and drawing them all wearing striped shirts and berets. They were missing out then.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:I think it's meant more in the sense being constrained by than literally "on a leash like a pet". That a Conservative majority both constrains him by having to appease all the Tory promises on cuts and the EU referendum and constrains the SNP because they can't use their large contingent of MPs to stop him passing legislation. It's not a win-win for the SNP because they have literally won about as much as is every possible to and so now there's the risk that all people will see is that despite their bluster the SNP can't just wave a magic wand to get things done. We've reached peak SNP popularity so the game is about keeping their voters happy so things don't end up swinging back to Labour. If Cameron is smart, and can persuade his party (the latter being harder than the former) then they'll drip-feed concessions throughout the Parliament in an attempt to blunt the SNP attack and then see how things look after the next election. But I dunno. Not many things ever feel inevitable in politics but independence really feels like a Thing That Could Happen in the next decade or two at this point. Zephro fucked around with this message at 11:10 on May 12, 2015 |
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Cloud Potato posted:Independent:
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Trickjaw posted:Oh dear, I know someone who's going be upset about this... I think I've been dulled and jaded by this point. It's nowhere near as lovely as the Thomas ones used to be- remember the homeless Scot begging Osbourne for change? Also it's just wrong, haggis and deep fried mars bars are amazing.
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Coohoolin posted:I think I've been dulled and jaded by this point. It's nowhere near as lovely as the Thomas ones used to be- remember the homeless Scot begging Osbourne for change? Cartoonist Stanley McMurtry thinks that soft southern MPs lack the constitution to deal with real food.
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Guavanaut posted:Maybe and it's not an anti-Scot thing. Of course it's an anti-Scot thing, it's the daily mail. Come on.
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Paladinus posted:Whatever happened to Australian cartoons? Abbot is a godsend face for cartoonists and I wouldn't mind seeing more of it without venturing into the general politoon thread. I agree with this. We all need some help in dealing with a right-wing majority and the Australians must be experts in it by now.
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# ? May 12, 2015 12:57 |
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Coohoolin posted:Of course it's an anti-Scot thing, it's the daily mail. Come on.
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Zephro posted:Hm. I dunno if I agree with your analysis of the SNP - we've definitely reached peak popularity, but if they send a bunch of Westminster MPs to London and nothing changes then they can spin that as "look, we tried working within the system and it didn't work, all we can do now is change the system (ie vote to leave)." If the Tories really let the right-wing agenda rip then I can see that working. Especially since the SNP have been running Scotland for years, so they can say "look, we are a credible party of government, we just can't work within this system because the electoral arithmetic means Scotland will always be ignored". This assumes that the softer part of the SNP vote can emotionally detach themselves from the union completely and won't care about Tory governments in RUK if Scotland gets FFA or independence or whatever. I can see the SNP being permanently entrenched in Holyrood for the foreseeable future but I think a lot of voters are going to be more pragmatic in the Westminster 2020 election in terms of returning more Labour MPs. That being said I don't think it's going to return to the previous status quo of 40+ Labour MPs at all. It'll certainly be interesting to see what happens in the former Lib Dem constituencies both north and south of the border. With no more incumbents and battered local parties they're really going to struggle.
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Meanwhile
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Exclusive: Why Nigel Farage is happy to accept our continued monetary support in return for exclusives.
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loving foreign boats. They sail here and stay at our ports like it's their home.
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bornbytheriver posted:Meanwhile Different levels of irony in that We'd have no Prince Harry if it wasn't for boat migration of Prince Philip Fluo fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 12, 2015 |
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Fluo posted:Different levels of irony in that I like the nut diet preventing dementia next to Farage personally.
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Guardian: "Steve Bell on the new Conservative cabinet – Sajid Javid says that, as the new Vince Cable, he has early plans to further curb already shrunken trade union rights to strike" After Tenniel. Telegraph: Tories go to war with the BBC (Ed Miliband hits Ibiza after standing down as Labour Party leader) Independent: David Cameron lays out plans for 'blue-collar Conservatism' as cabinet meets Times: Mail: Mac on... Prince Harry's desire to settle down and have children
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Fluo posted:
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