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Master Twig posted:I was hoping for a bit more out of those Ad Mech dudes. T5, 4+ armor, 2 wounds is just a tad too fragile for 55 points. Even if they have really good firepower. They're going to disappear rather quickly. Play with the German profile and convince your friends that yes, that is W:5 Also "Mehr maschine als mensch" sounds cooler too.
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I must be in the minority because I like all of the mechanicus releases so far, especially the walkers and skitarii.The Supreme Court posted:Play with the German profile and convince your friends that yes, that is W:5 I would love to have terminators with actually good guns and those stats..... Strength of Many fucked around with this message at 16:02 on May 12, 2015 |
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Strength of Many posted:I must be in the minority because I like all of the mechanicus releases so far, especially the walkers anta skitarii. Most of its really cool and even the robutts are fixable, but the aesthetic as a whole is jumbled and disjointed. The track servitors are a great example of how good everything could be, and it's clear that with the spider walkers that they had a lot of flexibility to do different stuff. It's just a shame that's not translated into a coherent vision of the army, as it could be so much better. I was hoping for nightmarish tech abominations along the inventiveness and quality of the skaven line: those big robot rats would work much better than the 50's style robot.   
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The Supreme Court posted:Most of its really cool and even the robutts are fixable, but the aesthetic as a whole is jumbled and disjointed. The track servitors are a great example of how good everything could be, and it's clear that with the spider walkers that they had a lot of flexibility to do different stuff. It's just a shame that's not translated into a coherent vision of the army, as it could be so much better. No they are pretty cohesive, visually speaking. Smooth looking negative space, a blend of retro and archaic. The only grounds most complaints seem to have is its not tubes, pipes and CRTvs bolted on everywhere like Jon Blanche art. Yet they still have most of those elements present, so... I guess its because the look cleaner and more uniform?
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Master Twig posted:I was hoping for a bit more out of those Ad Mech dudes. T5, 4+ armor, 2 wounds is just a tad too fragile for 55 points. Even if they have really good firepower. They're going to disappear rather quickly. Strength of Many posted:No they are pretty cohesive, visually speaking. Smooth looking negative space, a blend of retro and archaic. The only grounds most complaints seem to have is its not tubes, pipes and CRTvs bolted on everywhere like Jon Blanche art. Yet they still have most of those elements present, so... I guess its because the look cleaner and more uniform?
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Mange Mite posted:I've heard of this sort of thing happening before but still lol this is really bad. Just what crackerjack law firm did Gw retain anyway? Jonathan E. Moskin of Foley & Lardner LLP is the dodgy attorney in question
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The Supreme Court posted:Most of its really cool and even the robutts are fixable, but the aesthetic as a whole is jumbled and disjointed. The track servitors are a great example of how good everything could be, and it's clear that with the spider walkers that they had a lot of flexibility to do different stuff. It's just a shame that's not translated into a coherent vision of the army, as it could be so much better. I've been building an Ad Mec army, but using Veer Myn from Mantic games. I am going to be using these exact models as stand-ins. Space Rats will be coming to the table soon.
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i was chanting the holy litanies of repair on a kastelan battle automata in the maintenance bay, when the ultimate hustler popped out of my mechatendril and said "your robot shirt look like a dishrag" and the kastelan's engine roared to life, servos spinning and weapons coming to firing position, targeting the ultimate hustler, and the robot was like d a m n .
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Master Twig posted:I've been building an Ad Mec army, but using Veer Myn from Mantic games. I am going to be using these exact models as stand-ins. Space Rats will be coming to the table soon. I was passing something similar but with some old resin servo skulls I picked up randomly years ago
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Haven't seen this dude posted yet, but I really like this tech-weirdo. He's exactly what I was hoping to see with this Admech stuff.
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That guy is neat. Other than the Sicarians and the Kastellans, these AdMech models are really loving cool.
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He'll make a mighty fine 30k magos, thats for sure.
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Im just gonna draw at work from now on. Did I mention ive started my eldar army 
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Please put little cowboy hats on all future Eldar doodles
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Pyrolocutus posted:I'm getting a strong Strogg vibe off of those Yeah, that's it exacly. To me AdMech should hit a sweet spot between Stroggos and the Matrix machines. Isn't the fluff that things were cleaner and less crazy before the heresy? I think that's what's so confusing about the new robots, they should be the 30K units, and the FW Castellax should be the rougher, skull-crazy 40K units. This just popped up on my Pintrest, and really makes me want to do AdMech: 
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Remember how we were just talking about 40K being one big Dune ripoff? 
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HardCoil posted:Yeah, that's it exacly. To me AdMech should hit a sweet spot between Stroggos and the Matrix machines. Isn't the fluff that things were cleaner and less crazy before the heresy? I think that's what's so confusing about the new robots, they should be the 30K units, and the FW Castellax should be the rougher, skull-crazy 40K units. The mighty Scrunt Prime
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Those servitor tanks are so fukkin cute.
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Mango Polo posted:Those servitor tanks are so fukkin cute. Yesssss
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Mango Polo posted:Those servitor tanks are so fukkin cute. Thomas the tracked engine of death.
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I'm sorry for bringing this up again because it was a while ago, but you guys do realize 40k's use of the phrase space marine itself is taken from earlier works right? Like both Heinlein and various Lensmen books explicitly refer to characters as "space marines". GW trying to claim trademark in any instance except perhaps table top wargames is certifiably horseshit. It'd be like me making a popular game that sadistic underground men called deros and then trying to sue someone who does their own take on the Shaver story.
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BULBASAUR posted:
The metallics on these are amazing. It makes me wish I knew how to do metallics better. Anyone have any advice on how this effect was achieved?
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TKIY posted:I just keep seeing this : You say that like it's a bad thing.
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I really like the way those look, wasn't a Goon here looking for tracked servitors. The rules are pretty nice as well. T5 , 2 W , can shoot 2 weapons, look like they come with Grav gun type weapon and they get some sort of weird special rule Songs of Omnissah or whatever. quote:via Cedric Dupont in the Comment Section quote:- can shoot up to 2 weapons quote:Kataphron Destroyers (3) 165 Pts Getting Grav Guns on these units is pretty sweet, that and the whole shoot two weapons. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 23:31 on May 12, 2015 |
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Terrible Opinions posted:I'm sorry for bringing this up again because it was a while ago, but you guys do realize 40k's use of the phrase space marine itself is taken from earlier works right? Like both Heinlein and various Lensmen books explicitly refer to characters as "space marines". GW trying to claim trademark in any instance except perhaps table top wargames is certifiably horseshit. It'd be like me making a popular game that sadistic underground men called deros and then trying to sue someone who does their own take on the Shaver story. Again, you don't seem to know what you're talking about. They sell software specifically titled Space Marine, and they've been marketing a line of books under the Space Marine Battles series tag for a long time. There doesn't seem to be anything else on the market that uses the term, so it's actually perfectly legitimate to make a trademark claim.
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Strength of Many posted:No they are pretty cohesive, visually speaking. Smooth looking negative space, a blend of retro and archaic. The only grounds most complaints seem to have is its not tubes, pipes and CRTvs bolted on everywhere like Jon Blanche art. Yet they still have most of those elements present, so... I guess its because the look cleaner and more uniform? I don't know if I'm the only one who doesn't like their regular troops. The rangers or whatever really look like eldar guardian/firewarrior hybirds to me but i think maybe I'm just going insane. The profile and poses look very similar to me but maybe there's a limited amount you can do with light humanoid infantry. I dig the striders, assassin robot dudes and track servitors though, don't think much of the crab tanks and think the big robots look actually pretty bad, their body design is basically default imperial heavy armour without any character and their helmet design looks like a placeholder.
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TKIY posted:I just keep seeing this : Denise Crosby is in that.
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TKIY posted:I just keep seeing this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJgAeGUD2FU
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Mange Mite posted:Again, you don't seem to know what you're talking about. They sell software specifically titled Space Marine, and they've been marketing a line of books under the Space Marine Battles series tag for a long time. There doesn't seem to be anything else on the market that uses the term, so it's actually perfectly legitimate to make a trademark claim. Except there is a requirement for viewer confusion. Given that space marine is a generic term such confusion can only be reached if they are also aping story structure, naming conventions, imagery, or other such aspects of GW space marines. Given that the book in question doesn't do this, instead being a purposeful imitation of the much older Starship Troopers, GW had no legal standing. Hence why they lost. Trademark claims have very strict requirements, hence why you have numerous movies with identical titles. Hell even though the 1997 and 1998 Jack Frost were both movies about a dead person reincarnating into a snow man the lawyers involved came to the conclusion that a lawsuit on the latter wouldn't stick because both films had different ratings and were in different genres. Then take for instance the Asylum movies which are clearly intended to cause confusion and even then the lawsuits against them don't amount to anything more than being forced to change the title and a slight delay in their film release. You have to that blatant for the US government to even kind of care.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Except there is a requirement for viewer confusion. Given that space marine is a generic term such confusion can only be reached if they are also aping story structure, naming conventions, imagery, or other such aspects of GW space marines. Given that the book in question doesn't do this, instead being a purposeful imitation of the much older Starship Troopers, GW had no legal standing. Hence why they lost. Trademark claims have very strict requirements, hence why you have numerous movies with identical titles. Hell even though the 1997 and 1998 Jack Frost were both movies about a dead person reincarnating into a snow man the lawyers involved came to the conclusion that a lawsuit on the latter wouldn't stick because both films had different ratings and were in different genres. Then take for instance the Asylum movies which are clearly intended to cause confusion and even then the lawsuits against them don't amount to anything more than being forced to change the title and a slight delay in their film release. You have to that blatant for the US government to even kind of care. No you really don't seem to understand what's going on at all. This is proven when you start talking about the us government, viewers, and misusing terms like legal standing
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Mange Mite posted:No you really don't seem to understand what's going on at all. This is proven when you start talking about the us government, viewers, and misusing terms like legal standing Trademark infringement Definition Trademark law protects a trademark owner's exclusive right to use a trademark when use of the mark by another would be likely to cause consumer confusion as to the source or origin of goods. To establish a violation of the Lanham Act for either a registered mark under 15 U.S.C. § 1114, or an unregistered mark under 15 U.S.C. § 1125(a), the plaintiff must demonstrate that (1) it has a valid and legally protectable mark; (2) it owns the mark; and (3) the defendant's use of the mark to identify goods or services causes a likelihood of confusion.
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I legit think that the Adeptus Mechanicus stuff is good rules and both armies seem to have some synergy with each other. However they need to release the full Admech book and stop teasing us.
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spacegoat posted:Good thing we tried to run Moola out on a rail for ruining this thread. certainly there's enough room in these here forums for *two* bad posters.
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Hollismason posted:I legit think that the Adeptus Mechanicus stuff is good rules and both armies seem to have some synergy with each other. However they need to release the full Admech book and stop teasing us. I'm working on some Rogue Trader robots right now and I definitely won't be able to use them as Ad Mech anything since they're only slightly taller than modern Terminators, so they'll be Space Marine Centurions I figure. They've got some of the absolute vaguest detail I've ever painted on a model before though. Of the three I have, it only looks like one was thoroughly thought about before the sculptor got started.
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ghetto wormhole posted:And its machine spirit LOVES killing and will sometimes override the crew when it's really getting into it. I love this bit of fluff, because if you read between the lines you can see it overrides the crew because it uses a bastardized Hydra targeting system. The tank just tries to lock on to the best targets and the crew thinks it's because the machine spirit is bloodthirsty.
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