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Ryan Noth's To Be or Not To Be: A Circlejerk of Angry Goons
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:12 |
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Chewbot posted:Working at a job relevant to the topic at hand, how name-droppy of me! BioWare sucks, guys! Sorry about suggesting that some of you do nothing of value, Hitler's Gay Secret, and for sort of barely defending the author. I see I was wrong now. You're getting way too pissy over a loving book.
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:15 |
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:
Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Ha ha ha holy poo poo they dropped the sale. gently caress Ryan North. I was going to buy it and saw your LP so thanks for saving me .94 cents. Now $11.99 Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Derp derp wacky money cheese! Hitlers Gay Secret posted:You can't even justify this book's existence. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:I'm kinda getting pissed with the useless choices when it's just railroading us along the actual story. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:gently caress Ryan North. Jesus Christ I'm so glad I didn't give money to this douche.
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:22 |
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no they will not posted:What the gently caress are you retards doing no they will not posted:Are you seriously doing a let's play of a book no they will not posted:Justify this thread's existence, you little beast no they will not posted:i said justify its existence not prove it's not violating the Let's Play subforum rules
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:23 |
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Stallion Cabana posted:Ryan North's To Be or Not To Be: A Circlejerk of Angry Goons
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:26 |
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Hitler's Gay Secret.
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:27 |
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PleasingFungus posted:Hitler's Gay Secret. Jealous that a former GBS mod didn't give you an awesome name?
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:28 |
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Nice edit
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:30 |
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Look on the bright side, this thread has gone off the rails in all the ways we hoped the book would!
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:31 |
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dreezy posted:Look on the bright side, this thread has gone off the rails in all the ways we hoped the book would! Yay?
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:32 |
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Beef Turret posted:Nice edit Thank you. Still am glad I don't work for Bioware either. dreezy posted:Look on the bright side, this thread has gone off the rails in all the ways we hoped the book would!
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:33 |
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i dont work lots of places
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:40 |
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Jealous that a former GBS mod didn't give you an awesome name? Hitler's Gay Secret.
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# ? May 12, 2015 00:04 |
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My opinion is basically the same as Chewbot's minus the part about being angry at The Non-Creatives. Ryan North is a swell and outstanding fellow with progressive sensibilities but whose writing style and sense of humor can rub some people the wrong way. Like me. Go ahead and slam that door.
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# ? May 12, 2015 00:05 |
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Dolash posted:I remember hearing about this and thinking it sounded cool, I think I saw a friend get a book copy once and then I sort of forgot about it but occasionally meant to check it out. Unfortunately I can't really dig this LP's love-hate relationship with the source material. Don't get me wrong, I'm familiar with having mixed opinions on a game you're Let's Play-ing, but it's hard to assess the game with a proxy-argument going on all the time and the occasional edits to tone down criticisms make for an odd tone. I think I'll have to buy it myself to give To Be or Not To Be a real chance. Thank you for showcasing this game though! LPs are hard work. Thanks! I'll admit, I badly misjudged this forum's overall attitude toward Ryan North's work when I started the LP and had to rethink how to present the subject matter. I've settled for now on trying to be neutral towards To Be or Not To Be itself and putting more effort into the presentation. I've loved the reader discussions about Shakespeare, and especially about what this gamebook's author gets and doesn't get right. As for Ryan North, what I've seen is that Chewbot's experience with working him wasn't an isolated case; everyone I hear that works with him ends up saying that he really is a genuinely nice and upstanding guy, regardless of how people view his actual work product. The problem I am seeing is that his work can be very polarizing to some, which doesn't make for good discussion. I don't mind the occasional derail about whether To Be or Not To Be's author should or shouldn't have done a thing, but if things turn into an "it's poo poo"/"no it's not poo poo you're poo poo" back-and-forth I might have to lay down some thread rules. In the meantime, let's forget everything I just said about Ryan North and explode him anyway. quote:He called you a what? Seriously? "Hruuuuuuuugh," you groan. You're not going to take this disrespect any longer. If this were a theatre you'd turn to the fourth wall and scream at them to get you out of here. But there's no fourth wall here, just an author who keeps pulling your strings and you want him to die already. The only problem is that it's not exactly easy for a fictional character to murder a real human being. You're going to have to get creative. Thankfully, you still have a faint bond to your original creator; he's probably not still alive but maybe he can still find a way to help you out of this mess. You shut your eyes tightly, whispering a silent prayer into the aether and hoping your plea will somehow be heard. Oops. Let's try a different option instead. How about the one where Ophelia just slams the door in Laertes's face? quote:
Laertes seems like a champ. Let's let Ophelia get back to work on whatever it is she's doing. quote:
It looks like this storyline is starting to converge with the last one, if through Ophelia's eyes this time. But can we still push it in a different direction? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ? May 12, 2015 04:23 |
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Dromiceiomimus
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# ? May 12, 2015 04:35 |
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We have to see the Dromiceiomimus section of the railroad tracks.
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# ? May 12, 2015 04:45 |
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Is there really any other choice but Dromiceiomimus? By including a talking dinosaur from the webcomic that he writes, Ryan North gets the chance to redeem himself.
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# ? May 12, 2015 04:50 |
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dromiceiomimus. I think this is better the further it is from Shakespeare.
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# ? May 12, 2015 04:51 |
Kangra posted:dromiceiomimus. I think this is better the further it is from Shakespeare.
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# ? May 12, 2015 05:23 |
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Anybody who has read enough Dinosaur Comics to know how to spell Dromeceiomimus's name is definitely going to pick the third option. Let's see how she was written into the story, shall we?quote:
Porkchop Weebottoms, crushing everybody's hopes since the year 1600. How's Ophelia going to handle this disappointing intrusion? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ? May 13, 2015 02:20 |
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You know what? I'll count that as redemption. Wait for Porkchop Weebottoms to explode words from his mouth.
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# ? May 13, 2015 02:26 |
Yeah that was pretty fine. I've a feeling that if we wait Porkchop Weebottoms is going to foul his stockings so ask him what's wrong.
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# ? May 13, 2015 02:49 |
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Wait
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# ? May 13, 2015 02:49 |
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When do we get the option to make out with him? Seemed to be the thing to do from the other side. Wait for him.
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# ? May 13, 2015 04:19 |
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Wait for the soliloquy.
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# ? May 13, 2015 15:37 |
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Decoy Badger posted:Wait for the soliloquy. Let's do that. Let's see what kind of soliloquy Hamlet is going to give Ophelia, here in her bedchamber. quote:
Whoops! Instead of a soliloquy we just got a steaming shovelful of maximum Weebottoms. Strangely, we haven't seen Yorick since slamming the door in Laertes's face. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ? May 14, 2015 04:43 |
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Follow him, let's see if there's a method to his madness.
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# ? May 14, 2015 05:02 |
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Yeah, that's pretty much how Ophelia relates those events in Hamlet. Shakespeare is weird sometimes. The snark is even within tolerable limits. Follow
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# ? May 14, 2015 05:49 |
Follow the crazy boyfriend!
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# ? May 14, 2015 07:34 |
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Ophelia's stuck out with this relationship for quite awhile despite all the Weebottoms antics that her boyfriend gets up to. She's going to try to get him to open up.quote:
Ophelia is echoing concerns that Hamlet himself has about the ghost in the play. Hamlet has doubts that the ghost really was his father as opposed to some mischievous trickster trying to raise hell, so he engages a group of actors to put on a play in which some guy pours poison into another guy's ear while Hamlet watches Claudius for his reaction. quote:
This is the exact same scene as one we've been to before, except this time, it's through Ophelia's eyes. It looks like she also has a bit more self-control than Hamlet, who only had the "Make out for awhile" option at this juncture. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ? May 14, 2015 19:51 |
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Let's not make out and see what happens.
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# ? May 14, 2015 20:43 |
Definitely avoid making out.
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# ? May 15, 2015 01:05 |
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Make out like thieves (who do not make out by kissing and groping, but by waiting patiently until nightfall).
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# ? May 15, 2015 02:33 |
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Avoid the make out
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# ? May 15, 2015 02:54 |
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The audio clips I've been posting of the Matt Yantha narrations included in the Steam release are unavailable on account of my tindeck account being banned. Shame, because Matt Yantha does a genuinely good job, and they're more functional in this form than in the Steam release. The issue with Steam is that enabling narration causes the text boxes to appear automatically, and they try to match the narration, but end up trailing several seconds ahead or behind. But enough of that -- Ophelia can break off the makeout session, so she's going to break it off. quote:
Either of these options look like they risk annoying the ghost, particularly if it's not in fact Hamlet Dad. What's Ophelia to do about this? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 13:46 on May 15, 2015 |
# ? May 15, 2015 13:43 |
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Let's stay focused. Prove yourself, o spectre!
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# ? May 15, 2015 15:55 |
We've seen the second option from the best angle possible already so hand over your ID Mr. Ghost!
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:08 |
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What'd you do to get your tindeck banned? Prove your ghostliness Hamlet Sr.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:00 |
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Explode the Ghost
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