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Drastic Actions posted:Instead it has mostly been insults. Welcome to virtually every single Microsoft thread on Something Awful and the reason I rarely read/post in them anymore.
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The Xbox music app is awful on anything other than desktop windows 8.1 and it isn't the best music player even then. The new preview music app for windows 10 is awesome. If you want a cheap music player solution with an sd card buy a Samsung Focus. It uses Zune, which is the tops. If possible to downgrade the 520's os to regular WP 8, that would fix a lot of the broken Xbox music app issues while fixing performance issues to some degree.
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I actually use XBox Music on both my 920 and my PC since Winamp stopped releasing and the streaming service has been my gateway to legal digital music. Collection matching isn't great but I don't have so much that the mismatches make things unmanageable. XBox Music would actually play 100% of my music if I hadn't decided to keep my 5th gen iPod for the gym just because it still works and I have the armband. I don't know how well other apps handle music on this platform since I've never needed one. Windows Phone isn't great at music but fuckface just wants to complain about his purchase rather than try any of the options offered to him to solve it, such as exchanging what might well be a defective phone or just using his supposedly capable OTHER phone. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 02:53 on May 11, 2015 |
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I used my Android Phone for music playback after my iPod Classic before I got my Windows Phone. Poor battery life meant that my phone was dead after 8 hours, and I looked for a dedicated device again. The suggestions for me have been "buy a new phone which might fix your problems" (except other people have been reporting the same bugs on the more expensive phones, which makes me have no reason to drop more money on this OS), and "try this other music app" (which I'm actually doing now since it was only suggested to me today -- it's still actually syncing up music and it says it will take a while. I have a lot of music) Did I miss any others? I've closely outlined my exact problems, trying to be as informative as possible, in the hopes that somebody would have useful suggestions other than "you're holding the cheap third-world phone wrong". It sounds like there's an improvement in the Windows 10 Preview, so I'm excited for when Windows 10 comes out for real.
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May 11, 2015 02:30
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Well, the charging cable and port melted and shorted on my 8XT (???). Since Sprint is sucking rear end anyways I walked over to the Cricket store and got a 635. It's mostly the same as the 8XT power wise except for being Hershey-bar thick, no camera flash (why?) and the shittiest speaker possible. I put the Windows 10 build on there, which hasn't done it any favors regarding performance, but it mostly works. It is still missing a lot of things, and for the most part feel like Windows Phone 8.1, with some different apps. Music is still the same as music. Outlook is ... a bit confusing. Project Spartan seems to work as a browser for the most part. There are a number of areas where fonts don't line up or poo poo is cut off but that will be repaired. This has made it possible for me to upgrade to a new phone by swapping the SIM instead of ... not having any options. I'm waiting for the new hotness now!
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May 11, 2015 02:57
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:A free option might be MixRadio, which I think actually comes pre-installed since it used to be Nokia. It's primarily a streaming service, but you can do local playback of your music as well, and also download 'stations' for offline listening. I have no idea how well it works with an SD card though. MixRadio is pretty good. I used it while grilling today and it worked fine, though I don't store any music on my phone so I just listened to one of the streaming channels. Partycat posted:Well, the charging cable and port melted and shorted on my 8XT (???). Since Sprint is sucking rear end anyways I walked over to the Cricket store and got a 635. It's mostly the same as the 8XT power wise except for being Hershey-bar thick, no camera flash (why?) and the shittiest speaker possible. Apparently Windows Phone 10 was started much later than desktop Windows 10, which is why it's being released later and why there doesn't seem to be much difference from Windows Phone 8.1.
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May 11, 2015 03:20
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Partycat posted:Music is still the same as music. The desktop windows 10 app is much better. Universal app should mean WP10 music experience is better than WP8.1 whenever they release it for phones.
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May 11, 2015 03:25
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I think ModernMusic is the music app I eventually started using; it worked pretty well most of the time. Also just for fun, a pretty laffo blog: https://pixelwin.wordpress.com/2013/11/17/looking-for-an-ipod-touch-alternative-try-a-lumia-520/ Guy writes 20 pages breaking down why his 520 is better than an ipod touch 5th gen, and closes with: Best dude ever posted:Depending on the kind of person you are, and how much you want to get away from iTunes or the iPod Touch, in the long run I would say it is definitely worth the hassle of initially setting up everything. Xbox Music will only get improved as time goes on, and Windows Phone 8 itself will definitely become more mature. If you’re looking for a reason, any reason, to drop iTunes and iOS then this is it. If you’re fairly content with using iTunes to manage your music, and can live with iOS7, then you’ll probably want to wait until Xbox Music and Windows Phone 8 becomes more refined. I for one though will be sticking with my Lumia 520 for the foreseeable future. So, who wants to buy my iPod Touch? And then his next blog post a year later is: https://pixelwin.wordpress.com/2014/12/15/saying-goodbye-to-windows-phone/ Best regret ever posted:After just over 2 years of using a Windows Phone, I’m unfortunately going to be saying goodbye to the Windows Phone ecosystem. My Xbox Music issues (crashing, not recognizing music, lagging/freezing) as well as random issues on my Lumia 1520 (random reboots, random loss of cell connectivity, OS lagging) are the last straw. And unfortunately I can’t warranty the phone as it’s an unlocked phone from a different region, so back to iPhone it is.
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May 11, 2015 06:43
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TopherCStone posted:Apparently Windows Phone 10 was started much later than desktop Windows 10, which is why it's being released later and why there doesn't seem to be much difference from Windows Phone 8.1.
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May 11, 2015 07:41
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xylo posted:wat? It started at the same time. It's the same team/code. Mobile is just harder as there are quite a few more restrictions/things you need to do compared to the wild west of the desktop. Honestly trying to release xbox/phone/desktop at the same time for a first release would be nothing short of insane. Oh, I misinterpreted this quote Paul Thurrott posted:Belfiore specifically said that Windows 10 Mobile for phones was not as far along as the PC version and that its release schedule would be determined in part by wireless carriers. To mean it had less time in development, but now I see that's what he meant.
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May 11, 2015 13:01
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I saw the "leaked" Xbox app running on Windows Phone 10 screenshots today, and it got me thinking about the back button on Windows Phone. If you look at those screenshots, you can see a back button that's visible next to the hamburger button. Now, on a desktop or tablet, that button makes sense. It's the only way to navigate back from pages, and considering that header is always static, there is enough room for it. But Windows Phone has a back button, which does the same thing. So showing it there does not make as much sense to me. Especially for my app.   Here we can see two issues. The first is that the split view is always visible, making the main thread views pretty cramped; especially on 4 inch devices, where it's kinda hard to read the thread. The second is that the back button is visible, even though there is no reason for it to be. By having that back button there, it cuts off more of the thread title. So to try and simplify everything, I think I have a good solution.   The idea is that, on phones or screens that are very small, the back button will be replaced by the hamburger button, and the split view menu will be an overlay instead. So that way you still have access to the side navigation menu, can still go back with the back button, and have more room for your actual content.  And because the desktop/tablets have room, you won't notice. Everything should just work across screen sizes. And if you have the space available (Let's say, on a phablet in landscape)  You'll get those buttons back. Does this make sense? Does anyone actually want those side buttons visible at all times? Should it be an option to hide them?
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May 11, 2015 17:30
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Drastic Actions posted:I saw the "leaked" Xbox app running on Windows Phone 10 screenshots today, and it got me thinking about the back button on Windows Phone. I got the sense from the Ignite keynote that in Windows 10 devices that don't have a hardware back button are going to get a back button in software on the screen, so you might not even need to add your own?
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May 11, 2015 17:39
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Maneki Neko posted:I got the sense from the Ignite keynote that in Windows 10 devices that don't have a hardware back button are going to get a back button in software on the screen, so you might not even need to add your own? Yeah, some 8.1 phones have virtual buttons, and that's the same with 10. Right now I'm just checking for the "Windows.Phone.UI.Input.HardwareButtons" API. If that's accessible, I hide all the onscreen back buttons (Since I already registered the event to handle the back button event to navigate back in the frame). But does that apply to tablets too? I know it won't for Desktops, so I still need that button visible for those.
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May 11, 2015 17:44
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Drastic Actions posted:Yeah, some 8.1 phones have virtual buttons, and that's the same with 10. Right now I'm just checking for the "Windows.Phone.UI.Input.HardwareButtons" API. If that's accessible, I hide all the onscreen back buttons (Since I already registered the event to handle the back button event to navigate back in the frame). But does that apply to tablets too? I know it won't for Desktops, so I still need that button visible for those. I thought it did for tablets, but maybe I misunderstood, here's terrible screen shots from Joe Belfiores session at Ignite:  I also assumed the back button functionality automagically appeared for desktops like the thing below, but I could be wrong: 
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May 11, 2015 22:47
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Drastic Actions posted:Does this make sense? Does anyone actually want those side buttons visible at all times? Should it be an option to hide them? Hamburger that sidebar. I've already said it should be moved (or at least be hidden) as it amounts to a significant amount of real estate on a phone screen. Being able to flip it out at will would be perfect - perhaps make it permanently visible when horizontal, since there's room for it? The 640 has virtual buttons; you can show or hide them at will and they are pretty much the best thing ever.
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May 12, 2015 00:11
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Shumagorath posted:I actually use XBox Music on both my 920 and my PC since Winamp stopped releasing and the streaming service has been my gateway to legal digital music. Collection matching isn't great but I don't have so much that the mismatches make things unmanageable. XBox Music would actually play 100% of my music if I hadn't decided to keep my 5th gen iPod for the gym just because it still works and I have the armband. I use my Xbox Music Pass on my iPhone. It is better than Music in WP8.1, but worse than Music in WP8, and a lot worse than Music in WP7/7.5. I also still use the Zune software for playback in Windows 8.1. Having to switch back and forth between a metro app (Music in Windows 8.1) and the desktop (where I actually do things) is ridiculous. e: All this to say that I hope everything improves with Windows 10.
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May 12, 2015 09:08
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:The 640 has virtual buttons; you can show or hide them at will and they are pretty much the best thing ever. This is the immersive mode android kitkat introduced on devices with on screen buttons. It gives you extra screen space and is really nice to have on WP too.
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May 12, 2015 09:19
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Shrimpy posted:I also still use the Zune software for playback in Windows 8.1. Having to switch back and forth between a metro app (Music in Windows 8.1) and the desktop (where I actually do things) is ridiculous. W10 apps run in a window, so you won't need to switch around.
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So I've gotten my Lumia 930. Apparently this thing can't update from whatever it came stock to Denim in one go. Also, any indications when the next Windows 10 Mobile preview will be out? The one supporting this phone, too?
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May 12, 2015 13:59
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Guillermus posted:This is the immersive mode android kitkat introduced on devices with on screen buttons. It gives you extra screen space and is really nice to have on WP too. It makes cheaper through eliminating hardware
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May 12, 2015 14:27
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The inability to start songs directly in Spotify and instead needing to add them to the queue, is that a premium thing, specific to the WinPho app or just general kludgery from Spotify?
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May 12, 2015 19:28
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Combat Pretzel posted:The inability to start songs directly in Spotify and instead needing to add them to the queue, is that a premium thing, specific to the WinPho app or just general kludgery from Spotify? I have Spotify premium, regularly use the WP app, and everything you just said was alien to me so maybe there's your answer.
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May 12, 2015 20:39
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When I get a bunch of search results, I can't tap the song and have it start immediately. I have to tap the three dots and select Add to Queue. --fake edit: Then again, doing that shows up the Subscribe to Premium ad. As do a lot of other things. I guess I need premium.
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May 12, 2015 20:45
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Combat Pretzel posted:So I've gotten my Lumia 930. Apparently this thing can't update from whatever it came stock to Denim in one go. My 635 went to cyan, then insured it had no updates for a while. Later It went to denim at random.
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May 13, 2015 04:15
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Hey Drastic Actions, I'm running the latest version of Awful Forum Reader now (released on 4/23), and I'm still seeing random crashes back to the Start Screen. Lumia 1520 on Denim, no obvious problems with any other apps. Rebooting the phone and intentionally starting & killing the app don't seem to help. Is there any kind of log file or crash report I can provide? I don't see anything obvious.
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May 13, 2015 18:05
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I wish you could define a default music player. Right now I have to start Spotify manually to get music in the BT car radio everytime I go for a drive.
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May 13, 2015 18:08
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Windows Phone is now Windows 10 Mobile: http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/13/8600053/windows-phone-is-now-windows-mobile
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Hey Drastic Actions, I'm running the latest version of Awful Forum Reader now (released on 4/23), and I'm still seeing random crashes back to the Start Screen. Lumia 1520 on Denim, no obvious problems with any other apps. Rebooting the phone and intentionally starting & killing the app don't seem to help. Is there any kind of log file or crash report I can provide? I don't see anything obvious.  If it's totally random crashes that are not on the bookmark page, it might be a cookie login issue? Log out and log back in. Going by the crash dumps I do have, I'm guessing it involves the bookmarks page. 99% of the bugs I have (around 100 crashes or so) are on that specific page (Either getting bookmarks, refreshing them from SA, or saving and reloading them from the database). So I just put in more lovely error handling for that in case things like a bad network connection cause it to freak out. I submitted a new release to the store just now with those fixes it in. The Windows 10 version is more or less an entire rewrite at this point, so (hopefully) none of those issues should be present. EDIT: And it's in the store. Now watch it crash on startup :\ Drastic Actions fucked around with this message at 19:41 on May 13, 2015 |
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May 13, 2015 19:18
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BonoMan posted:Windows Phone is now Windows 10 Mobile: Windows Embedded Automotive (also previously known as Microsoft Auto, Windows CE for Automotive, Windows Automotive, and Windows Mobile for Automotive)
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May 13, 2015 20:02
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It actually doesn't crash at the bookmark screen, but in thread view and even when replying. Doesn't seem to be any reliable way to trigger it crashing. I use the bookmarks page as my primary interface when I'm on my phone, though. It doesn't crash while loading, but randomly as I'm reading through. I'm on today's version now, and it seems fine so far? I did have to delete and download, though. It would crash when trying to follow a bookmark, but it would refresh them just fine.
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May 13, 2015 20:43
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Lumia denim finally came through for AT&T 1020s. 
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May 13, 2015 21:14
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Looks like Cricket Wireless is selling the Lumia 640 in the US for $130 starting Friday. http://www.windowscentral.com/cricket-wireless-lumia-640-priced-12999-coming-may-15
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Alternative pants posted:Lumia denim finally came through for AT&T 1020s. Just in time for mine to completely self destruct today At least manufacturer warranty is in effect for it being only 11 months old. But all the backups were broken for some 8.1 issue I could never identify. ...I should stop there while it's a wash.
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So, Drastic Actions, I downloaded the new update, and it's... not working.  I can open the app, but forums won't open, so I'm stuck on the forum listing.925, Cyan. Is there anything I can do? A restart of the phone doesn't fix it...
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May 13, 2015 22:35
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Jeherrin posted:So, Drastic Actions, I downloaded the new update, and it's... not working. So it doesn't crash, it just stays on the listing? What about bookmarks? Do they not open?
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Drastic Actions posted:So it doesn't crash, it just stays on the listing? What about bookmarks? Do they not open? The one bookmark I have (Your project.log thread) opens. Otherwise, it just stays on the listings, yeah. I'd also like to say (since it all seems to be bad news) that I'm really grateful for all the work you put into this. 
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Jeherrin posted:So, Drastic Actions, I downloaded the new update, and it's... not working. Same here, when I touch a thread to open it nothing happens. 920 running developer preview.
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I made yet another build that should fix that. I think I might have took out the command handler for those forum list items, so that's why it was not working, possibly due to changes I was making for Windows 10. I'm guessing because I pulled down a fresh build at work, compiled and ran it on a test device and the emulator and it worked. So it might have been a local change and I didn't catch it. And while I was there, I added Application Insight support for the app.  This is in the Windows 10 build, but now I'm adding it to the Windows 8 one as well (which is something I should have done a long time ago). It gives me much better metrics of who is using the app, and what happens when things go wrong (among other things). So now you won't have to tell me what OS version or device you have, I'll know. Sorry for loving up something so basic and not catching it eariler. Have a great day!
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A family member's Lumia poo poo the bed over a dead microphone (just like my 920), and had it replaced with a HTC M8 (the only "decent" phone currently available on Verizon). This thing is such a second class experience it's unbelievable. Is there really no way to revert from the extra tiles view that came with 8.1 back to the traditional tile layout from 8.0? Did they get their own firmware specifically to remove features? Software buttons are awful, and there's no dedicated hardware button. I mean I appreciate that they are trying to be cost-effective and throw WP users a bone by making a port of the HTC One, but come on...
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Jewmanji posted:A family member's Lumia poo poo the bed over a dead microphone (just like my 920), and had it replaced with a HTC M8 (the only "decent" phone currently available on Verizon). This thing is such a second class experience it's unbelievable. Is there really no way to revert from the extra tiles view that came with 8.1 back to the traditional tile layout from 8.0? Did they get their own firmware specifically to remove features? Software buttons are awful, and there's no dedicated hardware button. I mean I appreciate that they are trying to be cost-effective and throw WP users a bone by making a port of the HTC One, but come on... I'm seriously considering just buying a 928 off Ebay for my mom since her 822 just keeps getting older and older. It's around a $100 investment; an Icon would be around $200.
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