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Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


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No, I have a hard time remembering who Jarde is so I have to disagree.

EDIT: Oh poo poo those aren't bandages they're supposed to be tribal markings goddamnit :negative:

Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 23:38 on May 12, 2015

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paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
That's funny because Jarde is one of the only characters I can remember. :v:

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I swear, these potentials and orders seem like they were made for the last game's maps, not this game's maps.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Glazius posted:

I swear, these potentials and orders seem like they were made for the last game's maps, not this game's maps.

I think a lot of the Orders got overpriced to encourage the Anthem Corps buffs instead, but that'd mean using the Anthem Corps.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Glazius posted:

I swear, these potentials and orders seem like they were made for the last game's maps, not this game's maps.

These units too, who really cares if a a fencer or a mauler can't run very far if all the maps are tiny and crampt?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Ignoring the fact that you have to use literally the worst class multiple times and hope the RNG gods bless you with the right promotion materials....

The end result is a bad tier 3 class that doesn't have access to the one super benefit (extra bullets) by default. What would you even need them for? Commandos kill everything, Fencers kill the other things, and Mauler one-shots Heavy Tanks with default weapons. You can't even use the Engineer's high AP as a pseudo-scout, because they have no grenades to pop units out of the sandbags which is the main reason why they're useless.

Mr.Morgenstern
Sep 14, 2012

So basically, during the design process the programmers went "Man, gently caress Engineers".

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Mr.Morgenstern posted:

So basically, during the design process the programmers went "Man, gently caress Engineers".

Nah, they put the pretty girls in the Shocktrooper and Scout classes :v:.

cdyoung
Mar 2, 2012

Tae posted:

So just to drive Audrey's point even more pointless. Current Valkyur count:
1) A baker, at Lanseal
2) Dead, but was leading an army to exterminate Gallia
3) A student, also at Lanseal and fighting you

Also a bit of spoiler, Valkyur in VC3 fights with Darcsens. She's a nut case.

I wouldn't exactly call her that. She has a reason for her mental trauma.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Back to the canyon, with a little change-up. The interesting thing about this map rotation is that it completely changes how to approach it depending on the weather. When it's raining, underground paths and water paths are now blocked off, forcing you to go the long way.



Inghild Quest 3

Here we go, dudes! What'lI it be this time?



I am so glad we're going to be done with this soon.

I understand... Though it pains me, I must convey Your message.
So, what's the word?
An unprecedented tragedy will strike Class G. So He has spoken.
Wait, what kind of tragedy? What's gonna happen to us?!
Even I cannot say. Never before have I seen an aura of this color.
Oh no! What will we do?



Rebel troops are advancing through the woods around Leanbluff. We cannot allow their sphere of influence to spread any farther. They must be stopped here.
All right, we're on it!
This will be a single squad operation. Class G will be alone out there. It promises to be tough, so I expect you to prepare carefully before leaving.

*Hubert leaves*

Y-You guys don't think that prophecy was talking about this mission, right?
That bit about Class G facing tragedy? Please. We've handled worse.
Yes, but all of Inghild's prophecies up 'til now have come true.
But we're not talking like... the whole squad setting wiped out, are we?
Hey, now! I don't want to hear that kind of talk right before a mission! There's no sense getting skittish over something that might not happen.
Avon's right. It's idiotic to be swayed by groundless chicanery and hocus pocus.

Zeri's been using a lot of fancy words in this quest.

I'm sure we'll be fine! That's why us engineers are here. Now, let's prep!

Hahhahahahhaha



Kill everyone in the forest.



Stupid forest has a lot of grass.



Good going out there! It looks like everyone is safe, too.
So much for prophecies.
His word is never wrong. For the woeful color He revealed to me to be mistaken is impossible.
I don't know who "He" is, or what he's all about, but...
The way I see it, the future's something you create for yourself. You build it up, brick by brick. It isn't just dictated to you.
Oh?
The mission today ended in success because we all save it our best. I won't say faith is all bad, but everything in moderation, yeah?
Hmm.
All right, let's motor back to Lanseal. I'm starving!
Ooh, today's beef stew day at the mess hall!
Sweet! That's like the best meal they serve. I can't wait!
You heard the lady! Double-time back to Lanseal, troops!




That means no lunch!
I was so excited for stew I-I skipped breakfast. I could cry!
Ugh, I've been waiting for stew since--day foreeever!
It's a slap in the face! Or a punch, right in the stomach!
Heh heh. A missed meal for the good folk of Class G... Truly this is a tragedy of untold proportion. I warned you His word was absolute. Though I'll grant your efforts may have saved you from a worse fate.

Oh gently caress off, lady

Enough with the mumbo jumbo already! Help us find something to eat!



So Prophecy increase power against infantry and vehicles, which means she has 3 anti-infantry Potentials not counting class ones. Pretty good, except I hate her so she's out of the party.



Skit summary: Raymond gives background that Ragnaid as a healing solution was accidentally found because miners seem to heal faster. It's a relatively new thing, even though it's been 2 years since the Gallia war that scientists don't know why gas fuel is also a healing solvent.



Wow, that's some pretty evil poo poo. Also subtle, which is not remotely what they've been doing the past year.




It's a pretty decent mission, with stuff like the river being flooded that prevented some shortcuts from being taken. Otherwise, just capture two bases.

Mischlitt Quest


...Excuse me.
Ugh, a dark-hair? Now I gotta go shower to get the stink off me.
Um...
It's 'cause of creepy dark-hairs like you the rebels are fighting us.
http://lpix.org/1997710/RandomGirl.jpg I heard they just hit another Darcsen village. Louvere, I think...
Louvere? Are you certain?!
What, planning to run off and save your kind? Hmph, good luck! No sane person is going to go risk their necks for some dark-hairs.
http://lpix.org/1997710/RandomGirl.jpg Seriously. Why don't you just sneak off and do it yourself?
Rgh! *runs away*

Holy gently caress, where are these students coming from?



What's wrong, Mischlitt? Did something happen?
P-Please, I... I need to ask you all for a large favor.



My family and some of my dearest friends still live there. I want to keep them safe. But I... I can't do that alone. I'd like to ask you to join me in the field. Please... Please, I...Please... help me. I beg you.

You'd think she show just a little emotion about protecting her village from genocide...but nope, she is still exactly :geno: as she usually is. Monotone to the end.



You're our squad mate. Of course we'll help. Right, guys?
Right! We'll do whatever we can, Mischlitt!
Yeah! It's, like, all for one and one for the rest or whatever.
W-We'll all work together!
Tch... Sounds like a drag to me.
Don't be like that. You're a part of the class, same as she is!
Yeah, whatever.
I won't stand to see my people killed off without a fight.
Everyone... Thank you.
All right, let's move! Prepare for combat, double-time!



Kill everyone in a relatively busy map.



Morris and Nicole are MVPs for saving me so many CP.



That's great! I'm really glad to hear it.
...I think you were correct. I had erected a wall around myself. I had convinced myself of the impossibility of being friends with non-Darcsens. That led me to avoid all contact unconsciously.
But you all came to my rescue today. It moved me more than I can say.
Well, good! You see? I told you we're on your side.
I will not give up on others so easily again. And I have... You've given me a dream. I would like to help build a world where people can live beyond their races.
That sounds great. I'll be right there with you, supporting however I can!
Avon, would you... I would like for you to have this.



Tradition holds that it protects the bearer from harm and misfortune. We Darcsen gives these to our closest friends.
Are you sure? I mean, I'm super flattered...
Quite sure. I would dearly like for you to have it. Thank you, Avan.
Hey, no. thank you! Come on, let's head back to the others. They're waiting to hear the good news from you!
Right!



She gains a higher chance of inflicting status effects! WOW!

No.

Also I think this was supposed to be a Mischlitt romance thing, but something went awry.

Art pages for Inghild and Mischlitt





So she WAS intended for a love robotic-emotion thing, but the writers said "No wait, we need a lynch victim instead." Honestly, I'm not sure which was worse.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
The whole "let's make her a victim character" bit makes me even more glad that I was fond of using Mischlitt for boss-killing.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


quote:


Goddamn look at how loving :smug: smug :smug: she is.

And of course she was supposed to be a miko. Of course.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

SSNeoman posted:

Goddamn look at how loving :smug: smug :smug: she is.

And of course she was supposed to be a miko. Of course.

I find it really morbidly funny how persistently they imply in the art books that a good chunk of the development team kept forgetting that the setting they were writing for wasn't actually literally a contemporary japanese high school.

Mr.Morgenstern
Sep 14, 2012

King of Bleh posted:

I find it really morbidly funny how persistently they imply in the art books that a good chunk of the development team kept forgetting that the setting they were writing for wasn't actually literally a contemporary japanese high school.

Are you not aware that Nippon is the greatest culture in the world? :smug:

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
Mischlitt was my fencer of choice most of the time, primarily because Genius gives all stats a huge boost when it procs. That, and it gives me satisfaction to have the insular bookworm become a death goddess :black101:

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.
Are those supposed to be ragnaid crystals around Inghild's neck? We may be seeing the side effects of healing too much with it.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!



Skit summary: So I guess you get this skit in rotation when you complete Coleen and Morris's idential classmate missions. They're sorta developing a relationship, though it's a shame it's completely RNG instead of say appearing right after completing both.

But enough about love, it's time to prevent yet another massacre!



Yeah, she's a firecracker even without her powers.
Ah, Cosette. I'd like to ask a small favor of you. There's a blue folder on my desk in the faculty room. Could you get it?
Blue folder? Uh, yes, sir! I'm on it! *leaves*
*Thinking* Ugh, you're gonna give the girl a meltdown, Brixy.
Any news on your brother's whereabouts, Avon?
Nothing yet.
I see.
If I hadn't recommended him for that mission, he'd still be--



No, I should have trusted my intuition sooner. Even without concrete proof. Leon wasn't the only one. A number of Lanseal's best students lost their lives. But by the time I learned the specifics, it was too late. I failed them.
I can't do a lot about that. Sorry, but--
No, of course. It's wrong of me to seek absolution from you. I apologize.
You're not listening. I was gonna say you should tell all this to Leon.
...I would like that chance.



Cosette?! I only needed the one--
I thought I'd be on the safe side and Just bring them all, sir! Y-You never know when you might need them. Right?

So if you haven't inferred, she basically carried the whole desk.

*whispers to Cosette* That's the lamest thing I've ever heard!
What else am I supposed to say? I couldn't tell them apart!

*Siren goes off*



Something's happened. Get the squad prepped and waiting!

*A moment later*



A large portion of the mining staff is comprised of Darcsen laborers. The rebels have set explosives in the mine and are calling it a cleansing.

Okay, Baldren is a loving clown at this point. "Machine gun? Boring. Flamethrower? So last week. Drive a tank through their home? Meh. Now burying them in their own filthy habitat? Mwuahahahhahaa!"

Are they trying to bury those people alive?! That's inhuman!

Where in the hell have you been for the past 10 months

Your objectives are twofold: force the rebels out and stop that bomb.
We're on our way! If we hurry, we can be there within the hour.
Every second counts. I wish you Godspeed.
Lanseal's bell has tolled! Squad G, move out!



So a new area is introduced, with a gimmick that's kinda annoying to use. Trolleys are basically instant camp gates, like how Escorts automatically warp whenever they touch a camp gate. The problem is that it instantly takes up your whole turn to use it, so wherever you're dropped off, you're isolated.

Other problem is that you have to ride the trolley back because it's a one-way trip. It was okay in VC1 because the maps were so huge, but capturing camps is just more efficient and better in the long term.




You can see right here that getting to that trolley is a massive undertaking to get there, and the reward is basically maybe 1 CP saved if you're really dedicated to getting to that spot.




Having the rockbreaker part opens up a huge shortcut that bypasses the Gatling towers.




Of course, the mission is to kill Baldren which is easier than you think because he guns straight for you.

The other gimmick of the Mines is that those explosive ragnite containers from like the 2nd story mission are everywhere. So be careful around them, especially for Fencers.



Oh yeah, I totally forgot about his gimmick. It's been a while.



On the other hand, this fight's a cakewalk with Alexis and Marion having Evasion-cancelling Potentials.



Super easy mission because of Baldren's aggression.



Where's the bomb?! Come on, out with it!
Commander Baldren! We're prepared to extract, sir. We leave at your order!
You're just gonna run?! You coward!
The day is mine, cadet! You and your men can die alongside the Darcsens!

*Rebels run away*

If they're pulling out, we don't have much time.
Rgh! Split up, guys! Half of you evacuate civilians, the rest find that bomb!
Okay! Radio back if you find anything, guys!

*Time passes*

Good, that takes care of everybody from this area!
*Radios in* Zeri here. I've evacuated the east block miners to a safe distance.
Copy that. Round up the squad and come on back.
Now we're just waiting on that bomb.
*Radios in* Avan.
Cosette? Is that you? What is it?



Well, poo poo.




Timer detonated... Cosette, is there a serial number on the casing?
N-Number? I don't... Yes, it says T898 on it.
The 98 series can be disabled by cutting the red detonator wire.

Oh goddamnit, are you serious? Is this seriously happening?

Cutting any of the other wires will trip the fuse and trigger the bomb.
Cosette, there's no time! You've got to cut that wire. The red one!
Which one?! I can't tell, Avan! I'm colorblind!

How the gently caress did you forget that poo poo? Never mind that you literally shot yourself to try and "cure" her color blindness, but there was that whole stupid desk-carry skit like right before this mission.

I told you, after seeing my parents... I can't! I just can't do this!
Not if you tell yourself you can't!

WHAT

That's not how color-blindness works

You promised you'd stop running away. Did you forget?!
I didn't forget...



There's only a minute left! You all have to run! Get as far as you can!
I'm not going anywhere! I'm not leaving you here.
But, Avan!
I made a promise, too. I know I'll survive this because I believe an you.
I'm not too keen on the idea of dying here either.
You can do it, Cosette!
Trust your gut, Cosette! The whole squad's behind you!
You guys...
Now, beat this thing! Cut that wire, Cosette!
All right. Here I--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd6YafePNwc



I'm gonna be so mad if she can see color just in time, because there's so much bullshit on this already.



Okay good.




GODDAMNIT

WHY WOULD THAT CURE IT



It was knowing that I had you all with me that did it. Thank you.
Uh, last I checked, you were the one who kept US from getting blown up.
Supporting you hardly deserves special Praise. Class G are... friends.
Zeri, I...



...Be quiet.
Also, I've been wondering for a while now... What is this "promise" about? Was I absent from class the day this happened?
Zeri, dude, don't be slow! It's gotta be a sweet, sweet promise between 'em!

Lotte, I am so not in the mood, dude

Not just sweet, but sweet, sweet...?
Wh-What?! No! It's not-- we're not like that!
Yeah! Wait, what does that even MEAN?!



Dude, shut up! Don't throw my own material back at me!
And somehow, it always boils back down to this.



The whole world is. I've been missing out...
You can catch up now, though, right?
This right here is a good start. I'll remember this sunset for a looong time.







...SHE CURED HER COLOR BLINDNESS BY DEFUSING A BOMB









YOU WILL NOT DISTRACT ME



Was that seriously the entire point of the month? You couldn't just use this extra month to develop Juliana before killing her? Anyone???

All the Cosette Art Pages




quote:

PAYING ATTENTION TO COSETTE'S BUST LINE?

No doubt many male players noticed a difference in Cosette's silhouette when she was dressed in lighter clothes, namely her summer uniform and swimwear. Cosette's proportions tend to slim down in heavier clothes, so her generous bust line is more prominent when she is wearing less... but aside from such boys’ fantasies, Cosette's facial expressions were no doubt her most appealing attributes.

SURE WHY NOT, I DON'T CARE ANYMORE

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



I recognize this stupid psychic plot from, rough estimate, a billion issues of Sgt. Rock. Only there, the predictions were on point repeatedly for someone dying or being seriously injured, everybody but Rock started believing in it, and Rock talked about how they were soldiers in the US Army, and they took orders from the chain of command, not tea leaves. Then, inevitably, the predictions came to say that if Rock went on a mission, he'd die.

Rock said it was bull, went on the mission, nearly got crossed out, and then bulled through on sheer force of will, making the would-be psychic abandon their predictions and rely on good old guts instead of whatever they were using.

Only they didn't even get the ending right, and no-one in this is fit to clean Rock's stubble.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
VC2 is beautiful

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
Defusing the bomb is a metaphor for accepting the death of her parents. It's all very deep.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
Okay, that made me laugh.

Lord Ephraim
Feb 22, 2008

That's one way to get ahead in life, but nothing beats an axe to the face.
I'd probably laugh at the idea that VC2 is on same level of sheer stupidity that of White Knight Chronicles before this LP. However each update it's making it harder to refute that idea. Holy poo poo. Hang in there OP.

BioMe
Aug 9, 2012


That potential is the best.

*bang bang bang shoots guy in the face*
"It's all so beautiful! :swoon:"
*bang bang bang kills another*

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


An unironic cut-the-red-wire bomb. I honestly haven't come across that in a while.

Godspeed VCII

And no author, Cosette is not a klutz, outside of maybe that one picture you drew where she is apparently twisting her ankle. She is just a spastic person with colourblindness and poor impulse control. Basically she has a neurological disorder and we shouldn't make fun.

radintorov
Feb 18, 2011

BioMe posted:

That potential is the best.

*bang bang bang shoots guy in the facemisses from point-blank range*
"It's all so beautiful! :swoon:"
*bang bang bang kills anothermisses another full salvo*
Given her class and potentials, this is the more likely outcome. :v:

weso12
Nov 19, 2014

Lurker, Sims 3 LPer, Bored College Student
To be fair it was kind of implied that her color blindness wasn't actually a physical issue (as in the rods in her eyes are fine), rather some weird mental issue caused by trauma

So her being cured of colorblindness like that is very slightly less bullshit

Though the fact colorblindness that exists that way is bullshit.

weso12 fucked around with this message at 10:45 on May 14, 2015

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Mehuyael posted:

Defusing the bomb is a metaphor for accepting the death of her parents. It's all very deep.

No, it's just mandatory skill for Japanese video game doctors!

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

King of Bleh posted:

I find it really morbidly funny how persistently they imply in the art books that a good chunk of the development team kept forgetting that the setting they were writing for wasn't actually literally a contemporary japanese high school.
Myopia? In my videogames? Whaaaaa

But seriously, it's not just Japanese ones, they're just a heck of a lot more blasé about it and their stuff is a bit more weird than the yank poo poo.

OddObserver posted:

No, it's just mandatory skill for Japanese video game doctors!
Aren't combat engineers exactly supposed to handle explosives and poo poo like that? In game at least or did it all go to Armoured techs?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

King of Bleh posted:

I find it really morbidly funny how persistently they imply in the art books that a good chunk of the development team kept forgetting that the setting they were writing for wasn't actually literally a contemporary japanese high school.

Well there's some kind of brutal civil war thing sweeping the nation due to racial tensions that's led to some very horrifying warcrimes, but that's not important when we need to find a flower for a girl so she can tell a boy in the class that she likes him.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
Oh, this is what Cake Attack must have been misremembering. It's...not really less ridiculous in actuality.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
Yeah there's no words for this whole part. It's just.........:suicide:

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
I was howling with laughter when I got to this part.

"Bombs? poo poo this isn't gonna be some red-wire poo poo is it?"

...

And then it was.

I died.

Sadly I think this was the most cringe worthy point of the game, they blew their load before the end.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Myopia? In my videogames? Whaaaaa

But seriously, it's not just Japanese ones, they're just a heck of a lot more blasé about it and their stuff is a bit more weird than the yank poo poo.
Aren't combat engineers exactly supposed to handle explosives and poo poo like that? In game at least or did it all go to Armoured techs?

They can heal vehicles, but armor techs have the mine removal ability. And sandbag repair.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
This whole game can just be summed up in this one image.

Koorisch
Mar 29, 2009

Accordion Man posted:

This whole game can just be summed up in this one image.



Seeing the man that was part of the awesomeness of Ghibli say something like that is heartbreaking :(

e: v He's talking about Japanese otaku being bad and creepy people?

Koorisch fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 14, 2015

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Koorisch posted:

Seeing the man that was part of the awesomeness of Ghibli say something like that is heartbreaking :(

That's not a real quote.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

mycot posted:

Oh, this is what Cake Attack must have been misremembering. It's...not really less ridiculous in actuality.

Yeah. In fairness the colorblindness was a psychosomatic thing, but its still really funny

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
So I'm going to knock the remaining the classmate quests as basically their own update because the game's almost over, and I still got all these stupid engineer/armor techs left.

To motivate the next page, here's the sketches for the MOST MEMORABLE CUTSCENE according to the developers

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Koorisch posted:

Seeing the man that was part of the awesomeness of Ghibli say something like that is heartbreaking :(

He's a crotchety old dude who basically publicly complains about everything (he at one point compared smartphones to masturbation IIRC), but yeah it got a lot more formulaic than it used to be. Lots of directors expressed their disgust for the common tropes. Satoshi Kon dedicated Paprika's Parade scene for mocking Japan's problems, along with the fat due's arc everything in Paranoia Agent.

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Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Tae posted:

That's not a real quote.
Yeah, its a made up quote that people purposely misattribute to Miyazaki as a joke. It's still true though.

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