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Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

So why was that derailed Amtrak train going 106 mph? That seems like something more than a momentary lapse in concentration by the engineer.

trying to show off for his hoodlum train buddies

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Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

paragon1 posted:

what's bouldering?

its climbing for when theres no climbing to be had, basically just shimmying around on rocks

Aves Maria!
Jul 26, 2008

Maybe I'll drown

i dont understand why people keep responding to him

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3719989

this thread looks like it will be a spectacular trainwreck

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
the past three days at work, there were vocaloid tracks on the store music system more than once a day



euphronius posted:

Jesus, on average 90 people per day die in the USA due to car wrecks.

used to be a lot more iirc, despite the population being a lot lower.

zoux posted:

Ha remember when you had to keep a little ledger in your checkbook to balance your checking accuont and you needed it because you wrote checks all the time

nope, because my little kid savings account already had phone banking

zoux posted:

because instead of being some kind of weird pop music action adventure its theme is how the music industry controls image

so its actually a remake of the josie and the pussycats movie?

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

d&d chat who makes the best bread

my vote's on the turks

lithuanians

zoux posted:

was it tho? I don't remember the huge colonial expansion of China.

china imperialismed so good that vast amounts of former colonies/annexations are accepted parts of china now after long term ethnic cleansing

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I don't know, considering the sheer amount of "leftists" still stuck auto-defending Russia as anti-Imperialist even though it's not been the USSR for more than 20 years, I'm not optimistic about the activisty learning curve.

also: the soviet union stopped being anti-imperialist before 1930

The Warszawa posted:

i probably would not have supported ed miliband for labour leader in the uk election just because i can't trust someone who would knife his brother like that

its less untrustworthy thant he majority of british tho

Majorian posted:

"Do you want a free citizenship, Latin American? Oh, I'm sorry, I can't understand what you're saying because you're not speaking the correct Spanish!:smug:"

this is easily fixed by lisping and/or stuffing cotton in your cheek

kustomkarkommando posted:

Do you have to make the beat yourself or is one provided for the class?

A single boombox shared between the student body

in the school district i grew up in, it was district policy that any assignment to write a poem also had to let you write a song or rap instead (and same for an assignment to write a song, could also just be a poem/rap)

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

hey since we're race chatting still, anyone got opinions:

sounds like it might make some comparisons with earlier years harder

Somebody fucked around with this message at 09:51 on May 16, 2015

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Ok, made the chan board thread. I just hope I don't regret this later. :v:

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Nintendo Kid posted:

used to be a lot more iirc, despite the population being a lot lower.

car safety used to be really bad

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

BigRed0427 posted:

Ok, made the chan board thread. I just hope I don't regret this later. :v:

i'll say this, at least you didn't post this in GBS

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Is asdf32 the parachute account for Amateur Economist?

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.

paragon1 posted:

what's bouldering?

its like climbing up and around on big rocks instead of up a vertical cliff.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

i'll say this, at least you didn't post this in GBS

Best I can hope for is it just gets locked by the mods, but there are some stuff that stems off 4chan that I really do wanna talk about.

Aves Maria!
Jul 26, 2008

Maybe I'll drown

Disinterested posted:

car safety used to be really bad

yeah, I'd like to know how much of that is due to better safety measures/laws governing drinking and driving/etc

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Shbobdb posted:

Since I got a bunch of PMs and I'm way too lazy to respond to them all, here you all go:

When it comes to the Great Leap Forward, we all seem to agree about the first part of the problem. There was a huge incentive for people to overreport their production during the GLF. I called it "Bureaucratic alienation" and blamed it on the Chinese concept of face. But whatever. This is a problem that has plagued China for pretty much as long as there has been a China. "Early" on, you have things like the Han Dynasty being founded by a dude who thought it was better to start a prisoner's revolution rather than report that some prisoners were going to arrive late. More recently, but pre-Communist, the Qing Dynasty got hosed over during the Opium Wars because the face-saving thing to do was report a horrific loss as a glorious victory. It is a major problem with Chinese governance/culture that pre-dates Mao by millenia.

That said, I think most people will agree that numbers on a piece of paper never killed anyone. It's the policy based on those numbers that kills people, and in the case of the Great Leap Forward it absolutely did. Like many Chinese sovereigns before him, Mao based his policy based on what was reported to him. He saw that things were going swimmingly (again, I want to emphasis that they were not going swimmingly and were actually really hosed up), so he relaxed rationing and allowed for an expansion of local markets. That was a very bad move, since demand massively outstripped supply, so prices skyrocketed. Things went from nasty post-war rationing where life certainly wasn't easy but the death toll was as under control as a bad situation can be to the starvation shitshow we remember when we think of The Great Leap Forward.

If they had just kept up with the rationing rather than letting local markets take control while reserving some food (which, again, due to bureaucratic alienation, ended up being pretty much all the food) in case the markets failed things would have been better.

Capitalism: Not Even Once.

For as much love as Dengism gets, it's the same neoliberal shitshow we see everywhere else. There was huge progress for women during Mao's reign, even in the hinterlands. Nowadays? Abduction marriage is coming back in a big way! Dengism relies on economic growth in the cities (primarily the coastal cities, though inland cities with coastal access like Wuhan are also doing fine) at the expense of the progress made in the rural areas. It's made China successful by Western terms, complete with a crazy extravagant nouveau riche class, precisely the sort of thing Mao sought to prevent.

TL;DR: It's silly to blame Mao for millennia-long aspects of Chinese culture that caused problems for his governance. We should recognize those problems and hope they are fixed. But what really caused the Great Famine was an ill-informed experiment in local capitalism that caused a massive price spike and mass starvation.

just lol forever

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Lotka Volterra posted:

yeah, I'd like to know how much of that is due to better safety measures/laws governing drinking and driving/etc

I mean cars that crumple like poo poo and throw their steering block in to your face, lovely breaks, and no seatbelts is a really big problem

breaks on old cars loving suck

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3719989

this thread looks like it will be a spectacular trainwreck

not with a 20 foot pole, who the gently caress says "ok so left sit down and have a civil discussion about these awful loving manchildren" with a straight face.


e.

BigRed0427 posted:

Ok, made the chan board thread. I just hope I don't regret this later. :v:

:facepalm:

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Spaceman Future! posted:

not with a 20 foot pole, who the gently caress says "ok so left sit down and have a civil discussion about these awful loving manchildren" with a straight face.

a guy who's posting in this very thread!!!

Aves Maria!
Jul 26, 2008

Maybe I'll drown

Disinterested posted:

I mean cars that crumple like poo poo and throw their steering block in to your face, lovely breaks, and no seatbelts is a really big problem

breaks on old cars loving suck

just about everything on old cars seems to suck, they drove like boats

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Disinterested posted:

I mean cars that crumple like poo poo and throw their steering block in to your face, lovely breaks, and no seatbelts is a really big problem

breaks on old cars loving suck

modern cars often have some lovely sight lines, but damned if they won't protect your dumb rear end from a high speed collision that's entirely your fault



anyway, if the us annexed say canada, that would make anyone born there count as a natural citizen just as people born in former mexican/british/etc territories are right?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Lotka Volterra posted:

just about everything on old cars seems to suck, they drove like boats

cars built before like 1985 are practically useless

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Swan Oat posted:

its like climbing up and around on big rocks instead of up a vertical cliff.

for some reason I was imagining people exercising by pushing and throwing big rocks off of a cliff.

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

paragon1 posted:

for some reason I was imagining people exercising by pushing and throwing big rocks off of a cliff.

that certainly is exercise for the people below the cliff

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Nintendo Kid posted:

this is easily fixed by lisping and/or stuffing cotton in your cheek

Being catastrophically inbred also helps, from what I understand.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Nintendo Kid posted:

anyway, if the us annexed say canada, that would make anyone born there count as a natural citizen just as people born in former mexican/british/etc territories are right?

It would be retarded not to imo. You got to give the locals a stake in the empire eventually or the whole thing will go tits up in a hundred years.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Swan Oat posted:

the only worthwhile exercises are running and rock climbing

e: and bouldering

I prefer to go a-conquerin' when I need some exercise.

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

Majorian posted:

I prefer to go a-conquerin' when I need some exercise.

the conquistador workout is a bit out of style

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Spaceman Future! posted:

the conquistador workout is a bit out of style

Bah, who said anything about conquistadors? Gunning down civilians is no feast for a warrior! Yaaaaargh!:hist101:

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Where would you even get a cavalry saber and cuirass these days?

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
gently caress you majorian you ruined my joke

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


Nintendo Kid posted:

cars built before like 1985 are practically useless

death traps for many of them

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

paragon1 posted:

Where would you even get a cavalry saber and cuirass these days?

Venom Snake's closet.

Also, mounted on the wall over his computer.

also probably enough to equip a militia in his parents basement.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z14SlZ1i7rc

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


also feel a lot better now, all of chat thread should work out for a more healthy chat thread

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
move the chat thread to tflc

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.

Berke Negri posted:

all of chat thread should work out for a more healthy chat thread

seriously y'all do stuff for your mental and physical health

dadchat should be healthy enough to one day become granddadchat

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

The Warszawa posted:

seriously y'all do stuff for your mental and physical health

dadchat should be healthy enough to one day become granddadchat

i dont wanna be old.

I deffo dont want to die, but I dont want to be old.

The ideology eater
Oct 20, 2010

IT'S GARBAGE DAY AT WENDY'S FUCK YEAH WE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT
What should I do on my downtime when I'm in DC?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

paragon1 posted:

gently caress you majorian you ruined my joke

:laugh:

I want an arquebus though. Who doesn't want a gun that, if you're lucky, will maybe not fire at a 90-degree angle from where you're aiming?

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

The Warszawa posted:

seriously y'all do stuff for your mental and physical health

dadchat should be healthy enough to one day become granddadchat

Yeah, uh, that's not gonna happen regardless of how much I exercise

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

LorrdErnie posted:

What should I do on my downtime when I'm in DC?

contact your senator for anonymous sex

I mean, for you. For them its blackmail that hasnt happened yet.

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Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Spaceman Future! posted:

i dont wanna be old.

I deffo dont want to die, but I dont want to be old.

Become a vampire - you will be old in time but not physical aging. :v:

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