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Pwny_Xpress posted:i am trying to avoid spoilers. Which is hard. Was tonights Metamoris worth buying? I was pleased with my purchase of the last EBI. I am on a tight-ish budget and Metamoris is kinda 50-50 for me on watchability, especially when they have gi matches. If you're on a tight budget I'm pretty sure most of hte matches wound up on youtube in like an hour. Kekekela posted:Ryron looked pretty decent up to that point though, right? (I've just read the recaps, haven't been able to see it yet) It depends on how you define "decent". He looked like a skilled grappler fighting a guy several levels better than him. Barnett had to work, he didn't just do whatever he wanted, but at no point did Ryron have any offense.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzDcD4weCbk Pretty level headed from Rener and Ryron, I actually wasn't expecting them to post a breakdown about them losing due to Gracie pride etc.
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fatherdog posted:If you're on a tight budget I'm pretty sure most of hte matches wound up on youtube in like an hour. Yup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JbFBNdpiP0
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man i was watching youtube stuff and i saw this thing and the first leglock is pretty much the figure four leglock from prowrestling, exept it is actually a real thing. like the setup is completely different put they end up being almost the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc0z-rCZP5g pro wres version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKrNGKO47ss
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my grandpa drove his car into a guy and then wanted me to fight that guy. thats what this is all about
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Slaapaav posted:man i was watching youtube stuff and i saw this thing and the first leglock is pretty much the figure four leglock from prowrestling, exept it is actually a real thing. like the setup is completely different put they end up being almost the same The figure four is a real hold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBNHWHglNrM It's a kneebar on the straight leg using the bent leg as a fulcrum. Anderson demonstrates it as a way to attack against De La Riva guard.
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like its a really old move in pro wrestling so it probably has catch roots. destroyer used that as his finishing move in the 60's If they did something that far back it usually had legit roots.
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Does the pro wrestling reversal to the figure four actually work, where you try and roll over so you're face down and reverse the pressure? I got caught in this and thought about trying it, but it felt so tight that I was worried that I would shred my knee in the process.
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it doesnt do that much. if you see old destroyer matches his opponent rolls but the pressure is still there. its only a fairly recent thing in pro wrestling to have the roll be a straight counter to the figure four leglock
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1st AD posted:Does the pro wrestling reversal to the figure four actually work, where you try and roll over so you're face down and reverse the pressure? No. It's basically a kneebar, so going belly down just means you're getting kneebarred while looking at the mat instead of the ceiling.
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Guess who's going to ADCC this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6200EhwW29o
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Double guard pull to a heelhook from 50/50. Not my kind of grappling but no one can say it isn't effective! I'll definitely be eager to see Cummings' ADCC performance
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A Wry Smile posted:Double guard pull to a heelhook from 50/50. Not my kind of grappling but no one can say it isn't effective! I'll definitely be eager to see Cummings' ADCC performance as long as they're heelhooking I'm fine with it, its just the 50/50... stall.... squirm...stall that is unbearable. It is interesting though that being in a top position has some real physical advantages due to natural laws and like anatomy, but training focus has led people to take the worse position as preference. Don't push rocks up hill unless you are really, really good at it. I hate to judge guys who could berimbolo / 50/50 my rear end into oblivion but IDK if its a good evolution of the sport.
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thank god for gravity. i mean gi tournies would be some kind of abomination
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A Wry Smile posted:Double guard pull So that's what synchronized sitting is called. I thought that looked silly.
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Sprecherscrow posted:Guess who's going to ADCC this year. Some guy I've never heard of I guess. Was honestly hoping for Hulk Hogan.
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Watching Keenan and one of the Miyao's get double dqed for that was so satisfying
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Novum posted:Some guy I've never heard of I guess. Was honestly hoping for Hulk Hogan. keep an eye on him - he is pretty slick
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origami posted:keep an eye on him - he is pretty slick Yeah. He is Tonnon's (Tonnen's?) primary training partner. Both train under Danaher. Really slick leg locks. I am gonna stop pretending I know how to spell proper nouns now.
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Do any submission grappling tourneys still allow you to wear shoes?
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JHomer722 posted:Do any submission grappling tourneys still allow you to wear shoes? Metamoris allows it's heavyweight champ to wear wrestling shoes.
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JHomer722 posted:Do any submission grappling tourneys still allow you to wear shoes? NAGA lets you wear shoes.
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JHomer722 posted:Do any submission grappling tourneys still allow you to wear shoes? Just about every no-gi tourney does, although most people choose not to.
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fatherdog posted:Just about every no-gi tourney does, although most people choose not to. Any particular reason why? It seems like if you're gonna take any shots at all, they'd help. Also, mat burns on my toes rank among my least favorite things about jiu-jitsu.
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JHomer722 posted:Any particular reason why? It seems like if you're gonna take any shots at all, they'd help. Also, mat burns on my toes rank among my least favorite things about jiu-jitsu. Gives your opponent a handle for leglocks.
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JHomer722 posted:Any particular reason why? It seems like if you're gonna take any shots at all, they'd help. Also, mat burns on my toes rank among my least favorite things about jiu-jitsu. Personally I stopped wearing shoes when I started playing more butterfly than closed guard because the shoes became cumbersome for setting and using hooks. For a lot of people fear of heelhooks is probably a factor.
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Barnett was on a some podcast I can't recall and he discussed the shoes. His opinion is that proper defense for leglocks is just like any other submission, it's about position, knowing how to defend, how to deny your opponent the opportunity, etc. There's no other submission where people put the same importance on being more slippery.
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Pocket Billiards posted:There's no other submission where people put the same importance on being more slippery. Seriously DON'T WEAR SHOES THEY MAKE IT HARD TO SLIP OUT OF THINGS HERE WEAR THIS ABRASIVE JACKET AND PANTS THAT'S KINDA LIKE WHAT PEOPLE WORE IN FEUDAL JAPAN EXCEPT MORE ABRASIVE AND WITH A THICKER COLLAR SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE TO GRAB
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Who Gotch Ya posted:Seriously I eagerly await naked oil submission wrestling to become the New Thing for grapplers
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Pocket Billiards posted:Barnett was on a some podcast I can't recall and he discussed the shoes. His opinion is that proper defense for leglocks is just like any other submission, it's about position, knowing how to defend, how to deny your opponent the opportunity, etc. There's no other submission where people put the same importance on being more slippery. He may have talked about it on a podcast, but I'm pretty sure Josh says that on the Metamoris intro/pre match (the Lister match) stuff as well.
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Pocket Billiards posted:Barnett was on a some podcast I can't recall and he discussed the shoes. His opinion is that proper defense for leglocks is just like any other submission, it's about position, knowing how to defend, how to deny your opponent the opportunity, etc. There's no other submission where people put the same importance on being more slippery. it was rogan's
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LobsterMobster posted:I eagerly await naked oil submission wrestling to become the New Thing for grapplers It's the national sport of Turkey
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Chael just posted a pic on twitter saying he will be grappling against Barnett at Metamoris 8 Can you guys imagine the promos?
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Pwny_Xpress posted:Chael just posted a pic on twitter saying he will be grappling against Barnett at Metamoris 8 They announced this on the card right after Chael laid in Babalu's guard for 20 minutes. Josh is going to kill him.
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Pwny_Xpress posted:Chael just posted a pic on twitter saying he will be grappling against Barnett at Metamoris 8 I came running here to post this and I'm very winded but I think I'm already reading some Chael-ish promos. I can't tell if they are him or not because they are mostly located on facebook and other places. Sounds like him though. Fatherdog - Thanks for the fencing suggestion a while back. It would be nice to get back to my roots and epee isn't a joke in terms on competition and outright pain. But I think I'm going to wait for my Denver neurosurgeon appointment before I join a gym. For all I know he might actually have good news and I'd love to be about to at least do muay thai again.
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Pwny_Xpress posted:Chael just posted a pic on twitter saying he will be grappling against Barnett at Metamoris 8 I'd rather see Barnett vs. someone who could threaten him in anyway whatsoever.
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Sprecherscrow posted:I'd rather see Barnett vs. someone who could threaten him in anyway whatsoever. You go to hell.
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