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ullerrm posted:Sorta. Prior to the safety mechanic, it worked like this: If you did anything aggressive in lowsec or highsec, it popped up a modal dialog box with "you are about to get hosed, is this okay, yes/no" with a checkbox to never show it again. Prior to this, there were loopholes that didn't have a dialog box and you would simply get silently agressed toward someone, you have no idea how, when, or whom until someone in your fleet in a different corp starting shooting at you and was being remotely supported, in highsec.
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surebet posted:I just read up on this. I have a jump freighter and... significant assets in null staged in a way that it used to take a single jump back to low. Ok, fine, two jumps now, I can manage, but the man is high if he expected people to do space trucking in any other way than point-to-point jumping. Essentially for every light year you jump you have to wait for 60 seconds before the next jump in order to keep your fatigue away Jump 3 wait 3, jump 10 wait 10 and so on. Or you can jump 60 light years in a row 10 at a time and not have to wait more than 0,2,2,4,7,13 minutes between the 6 jumps and then log off for the night with about 8 hours of fatigue.
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Ah, I see. Adding the red/yellow/green system seems pretty innocuous/good if all it did was eliminate a popup dialog.
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orange juche posted:What was funny was when Courthouse pointed out to Seagull, Fozzie and Rise during Eve Vegas that Greyscale had never played Eve, and was in charge of sweeping changes to the balance of the game, sure enough he was packing his bags a couple months later. I won't take credit for getting him canned, however there was a much longer and more productive conversation later that evening in a private bungalo at the club. There was a lot of "oh really?!?", "people are really saying that?", and "oh wow, yeah..." On a side note, that conversation continued in emails for another month or two after EVE Vegas with a few people within CCP (not Seagull/Fozzie/Rise) where I gave some feedback and suggestions on features that I brought up during panels and discussions (i.e. I had a UI suggestion that put me in touch with CCP Arrow and his team). I have no idea where those went. They're not in the game currently, so they were probably terrible, however I did get an email around the time he was canned asking me to put in an application for an open developer's position in Iceland.
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koreban posted:I won't take credit for getting him canned, however there was a much longer and more productive conversation later that evening in a private bungalo at the club. There was a lot of "oh really?!?", "people are really saying that?", and "oh wow, yeah..." All hail CCP Greycanned
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Nietzschean posted:Go back far enough and the idea of a safety probably seemed pretty dumb, since you could shoot anyone anywhere without invincible space police murdering you. Lyris you never cease to amaze me with how stupid you are. No one likes you and you have got to be the first person ever to get banned from GFSC for being terrible just go away.
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Archimago posted:I was reminded today that I never posted this, and even though the moment has passed, I wanted to provide comfort to anyone who may have been experiencing sleepless nights thinking that there was no justice in this world: Good job goon.
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Kazak_Hstan posted:Ah, I see. Adding the red/yellow/green system seems pretty innocuous/good if all it did was eliminate a popup dialog. The overall crimewatch replacement was pretty good, and the traffic light safety is excellent. It didn't just eliminate the popup, it gives you security that you can't gently caress yourself. The old system had plenty of loopholes where you didn't get a popup for things like becoming a suspect. Wasn't perfect though: bounties are still pretty pointless even if they're far less dumb than they used to be. The kill rights system has practically zero UI or explanation so it's an opaque box to most players. 2012 was the dark times at CCP. That string of expansions Crusible-Inferno-Retribution-Odyssey were a case of doing the best with the completely inadequate resources they were given. OTOH I'm not sure what greyscale had to do with crimewatch at all, since that was Team Five-O and Masterplan was the lead designer for that team. darth cookie posted:That Albion thread is getting good and it seems like the moderators aren't experienced enough to crush it before the goonrush occurs. What I'm saying is
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Archimago posted:I was reminded today that I never posted this, and even though the moment has passed, I wanted to provide comfort to anyone who may have been experiencing sleepless nights thinking that there was no justice in this world: What the hell? That was just for the deposit? Good job Ian!
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Kazak_Hstan posted:Ah, I see. Adding the red/yellow/green system seems pretty innocuous/good if all it did was eliminate a popup dialog. Yeah, it's mostly good. It got some grumbling when it was introduced because some aggression games that tricked people into blowing up were removed, and people had fun using those on unsuspecting highseccers. In the end, new methods were conceived so now it's just a better way of setting up how you want to play the game. Klyith posted:OTOH I'm not sure what greyscale had to do with crimewatch at all, since that was Team Five-O and Masterplan was the lead designer for that team. He was rolled out as a public face in many of the discussions and blogs, though, and (invariably and unsurprisingly) had some… interesting… ideas for how to solve some problems. The whole CONCORD death-ray idea came straight out of his mouth, for one. Maybe he was in it at the beginning but slowly pushed aside as more sensible solutions were devised?
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Speaking of crimewatch, I just got a concorded ship grudgingly reimbursed because I filed a petition arguing that the crimewatch mechanics did not exactly match the description on the EVE Online wiki. I was pretty surprised that line or reasoning worked. Basically I shot an npc wreck that I created, but was part of a mission that was accepted by an alt. Apparently that's a concord offense. (yes I was dumb for not using the safety / going to hisec / logging in)
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ryanrs posted:Speaking of crimewatch, I just got a concorded ship grudgingly reimbursed because I filed a petition arguing that the crimewatch mechanics did not exactly match the description on the EVE Online wiki. I was pretty surprised that line or reasoning worked. Hey, something similar happened to me years ago! I shot a pirate structure in a mission and was very confused when CONCORD warped in and wasted my ship. Apparently shooting pirate cans in a mission is also a concord offense. My ship never got reimbursed though because the logs showed I had fired upon a can belonging to a player. Even after said player contacted them and told them I had never shot on him or one of his cans they didn't reverse their stance. And so I learned the server saves the last player opening a mission can and sends them a message if you attack the can.  Now I would like to test if you can do something similar in LowSec or NullSec with some of the still existing static complexes. If you shoot at some of those always refilling cans, do the players who were there before you also get stupid messages claiming someone just shot them?
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May 14, 2015 12:30
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Reverand maynard posted:No one likes you
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Klyith posted:How about we don't follow the guy to his new job to harass him, huh? Particularly when he's safely confined to a game we don't care about? Cause that albion game doesn't look good, even before they brought in greyscale. Because we may be deployed to albion online someday.
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May 14, 2015 16:57
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patentmagus posted:Because we may be deployed to albion online someday. 
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May 14, 2015 17:10
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My condolences, Ullerrm
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May 14, 2015 17:14
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I wonder how Ankhesentakempah's doing these days.
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xutech posted:I wonder how Ankhesentakempah's doing these days. Ankh if you love ISIS!
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I'm pretty sure half of the eve player base likes Greyscale/Phoebe as much as the other half hates him. I know that I'm pretty happy with the current super capital loot piñata hunt fest status quo.patentmagus posted:Because we may be deployed to albion online someday. 
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avatarinwin posted:I'm pretty sure half of the eve player base likes Greyscale/Phoebe Only non capital-havers.
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The Mittani's second meltdown as Goonfleet CEO would happen before that, rest easy.
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Aww, the rental program has been discontinued? That's a shame. I was really interested to see some metrics about that whole endeavour.
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Hexel posted:Only non capital-havers. On the contrary, I have multiple capitals.
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surebet posted:Aww, the rental program has been discontinued? That's a shame. I was really interested to see some metrics about that whole endeavour. We never got to know how good or bad the whole renter thing was, the last audit was Posted 13 August 2013 - 05:47 PM as far as I can tell.
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avatarinwin posted:On the contrary, I have multiple capitals. You're also a freak of nature who enjoys warping around 20 times in pods and shuttles to gank a freighter solo and had no qualms about stealing 200b from warr akini and defecting to dank meme central 
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Hexel posted:You're also a freak of nature who enjoys warping around 20 times in pods and shuttles to gank a freighter solo and had no qualms about stealing 200b from warr akini and defecting to dank meme central not that you're bitter or anything
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The only time you cocksuckers need to worry about audits is if you stop getting reimbursed for ships.
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Hexel posted:You're also a freak of nature who enjoys warping around 20 times in pods and shuttles to gank a freighter solo and had no qualms about stealing 200b from warr akini and defecting to dank meme central There's something oddly satisfying about hyperdunking. It's sort of like a scam in that you don't know if it's gonna gently caress up until the mark deposites the money or sends the contracts. Or in the case of hyperdunking, when the freighter explodes. Globby may be a gar bage dick, but the only thing nearly as satisfying as a good clean freighter dunk is a good clean hyperdunk.
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Nietzschean posted:Go back far enough and the idea of a safety probably seemed pretty dumb, since you could shoot anyone anywhere without invincible space police murdering you. I heard tales of this and collision damage like in beta eve. I don't remember cause I was so young when I touched the game and did not know what the gently caress I was doing and was yelling in local for people to drop their cargo while in my moon ship. They would laugh in local than 1 Shot me.
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surebet posted:Aww, the rental program has been discontinued? That's a shame. I was really interested to see some metrics about that whole endeavour. Not that I would scam anyone.
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vyst posted:The only time you cocksuckers need to worry about audits is if you stop getting reimbursed for ships. Direkkktorate embezzlement scheme confirmed
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So I had a character who is a few months old and had some skills trained, but I still have no clue what the gently caress in this game yet always want to try again. Last time I just listened to people to fly to a station in Syndicate and get money and buy a ship and loadout and go shoot things but I am literally too retarded to figure out this game. What do I do to not make it suck this time around? I never seemed to be able to get the money to do the things
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YouTuber posted:The ISRAD 3000AU safe in VFK let us do the greatest Blackops camp of all time. Then Bmerc cynoed in a shitload of Supers and got the greatest Blackops Camp of all time camped in for a month. gently caress, I remember that, all your poses were rapecaged and you still managed to get the vast majority of your supers out 
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Enemu posted:gently caress, I remember that, all your poses were rapecaged and you still managed to get the vast majority of your supers out Never underestimate the ability of Goons to miss/lose a tackle on a supercapital.
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Reverand maynard posted:Lyris you never cease to amaze me with how stupid you are. No one likes you and you have got to be the first person ever to get banned from GFSC for being terrible just go away. Several people have been banned from GFSC for being terrible. I am not one of them. What are you even talking about?
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avatarinwin posted:I'm pretty sure half of the eve player base likes Greyscale/Phoebe as much as the other half hates him. Sure, but these are the same people who thought it would result in the death of the Eeevil Gon Empire [sic], and still can't wrap their minds around the notion that the largest and best-organized group was (shockingly enough) in the best position to adapt to these changes and prosper from them.
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ZekeNY posted:Sure, but these are the same people who thought it would result in the death of the Eeevil Gon Empire [sic], and still can't wrap their minds around the notion that the largest and best-organized group was (shockingly enough) in the best position to adapt to these changes and prosper from them. The basic problem is that CCP keeps looking at nullsec and thinking "we need to make it harder so the major powers can't keep dominating it". But the thing is, you make it harder, then we're the only ones who can deal with it. Some new alliances can't get over the four foot hurdle? Then they're not going to make it over the five-foot one. But we'll probably find a way. We have to improve only a little: new people have to improve much, much more.
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Nietzschean posted:Several people have been banned from GFSC for being terrible. I am not one of them. What are you even talking about?
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