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Evil Robot
May 20, 2001
Universally hated.
Grimey Drawer
Online (or a local jewelery district) is a much better deal for engagement rings than big box, especially for the diamonds e.g. http://www.whiteflash.com/

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BrainParasite
Jan 24, 2003


Shop around for jewelry. Jared's, Zales, etc. cost multiple times what a good local jeweler costs.

I went ring shopping with my now fiancee. Her taste was not what I was expecting and we ended up significantly under budget because she'd rather spend that money on something else. I'm normally pretty grumpy about pretty rock prices but I could've easily fallen into the macho trap of spending more to impress others with carats, which is not what she wanted.

OssiansFolly
Aug 3, 2012

Suffering at the factory of sadness every year.

The Sock posted:

I've been reading over this thread and still have a few questions, if you kind goons may be of assistance:

1) How do you figure out how much to spend on an engagement ring? I make 65-70K/Yr and have no debt. My GF is pretty frugal and wouldn't want me to spend a lot of money on something, however, I would still like to do something nice. I was thinking 2K to 2.5K, but I really have no idea.

2) In regards to shopping for a ring, are the big stores, such as Kay's, Jared, etc, a good value or are they generally overpriced? I would be nervous looking online trying to order something like this.

3) I'm pretty sure I know her ring size, however, what happens if it doesn't fit? Is it easy to resize or is it worth asking her mom what size? She does wear a ring on her pointer finger often, so, I could steal that as a guide too?

4) Is asking her dad for permission an outdated thing? It feels kind of weird since both of our parents are both divorced and I don't talk to him that much, since we have moved two states away. We are taking a family vacation in a few months and he will be there, as well though, so it would be a good time.

5)I don't really know what she wants in particular, she generally is pretty simple and I don't think she wants anything too distracting. How do these look?

http://www.kay.com/en/kaystore/enga...6.100007.100010

http://www.kay.com/en/kaystore/enga...6.100007.100010

http://www.jared.com/en/jaredstore/engagement---wedding/diamond-engagement-ring-1-carat-tw-round-cut-14k-white-gold

http://www.jared.com/en/jaredstore/engagement---wedding/14k-white-gold-3-4-carat-diamond-solitaire
.
Any help would be appreciated! Sorry if these have been answered before, I've looked through the thread and didn't see these answered.

1. Buy a simple ring for the proposal and take her shopping to pick out what she wants. Problem solved.

2. Stay away from the Jared's, Kay's, Sterling Jewelers of the world. Go to a local jeweler and they will make you happier with a QUALITY and affordable ring.

3. Rings are easy to resize. If you go to a local jeweler often times they will size her the right way (see my answer to 1).

4. Only you know her family...I didn't ask my fiancé's father because they weren't super close, but the wedding has brought them together. You may not need to ask his permission, but remember that is still his little girl.

5. See my answer to question 1. Seriously...just get a very simple ring to propose with, and then make a day of it going out to a local jeweler to pick out a ring SHE likes and WANTS to wear every day. Who knows...maybe she won't want a diamond and will want a Ruby or Sapphire instead.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

The only problem with a placeholder ring is that the first thing everyone wants to see after you get engaged is the ring.

We ended up just shopping openly for it together. Well, she spent a lot of time on Pinterest, and then we visited a few stores in person. Good thing, since I was way off on what she wanted. Then I picked one that she liked in the store and bought it and got it resized without her involved, so there was still a little bit of surprise.

OssiansFolly
Aug 3, 2012

Suffering at the factory of sadness every year.

smackfu posted:

The only problem with a placeholder ring is that the first thing everyone wants to see after you get engaged is the ring.

We ended up just shopping openly for it together. Well, she spent a lot of time on Pinterest, and then we visited a few stores in person. Good thing, since I was way off on what she wanted. Then I picked one that she liked in the store and bought it and got it resized without her involved, so there was still a little bit of surprise.

Yea but if you are serious about getting engaged you can go get a ring the next day...or tell people to suck it while you wait for your custom, perfect ring to be made.

BrainParasite
Jan 24, 2003


Telling other people to suck it is good practice for when you start planning your wedding.

ilysespieces
Oct 5, 2009

When life becomes too painful, sometimes it's better to just become a drunk.
I also suggest only trusting her opinion on the ring, unless it's a friend who can help look who knows her taste. I'm giving my ring to the jeweler who's doing our wedding bands next week so it can be reset in a setting that's more to my taste (as in not yellow gold and less blingy). It's a hassle but it's worth it because, as I told my fiance, it's something I'm [hopefully] going to wear for the rest of my life, I want to have something I absolutely love. Not that I don't love the ring he picked, I just wish he looked at my pinterest board or asked my best friend for input (since she knows I hate yellow gold and I only pinned white gold rings). Don't make the same mistake!

Also I agree that telling other people to suck it will come in handy. Literally everyone has an opinion!

I'm getting married in exactly 6 months (:)) and I have a couple small things left to do, like get my headpiece and bouquet off Etsy, and my coworker got mad when I said it was a long time and I didn't have anything left to do and that I was excited, sure, but I guess my excitement wasn't enough. I'll never understand people saying I'm doing it wrong, how rude.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

BrainParasite posted:

Telling other people to suck it is good practice for when you start planning your wedding.

"When are you getting engaged?"
Ok, we're engaged.
"When are you getting married?"
Ok, we're married.
"When are you having kids?"
Ok, we had a kid.
"When are you having another kid?"
Repeat until death.

OssiansFolly
Aug 3, 2012

Suffering at the factory of sadness every year.

smackfu posted:

"When are you getting engaged?"
Ok, we're engaged.
"When are you getting married?"
Ok, we're married.
"When are you having kids?"
Ok, we had a kid.
"When are you having another kid?"
Repeat until death.

What I hate are the people you've told when the date of the wedding is (for gently caress's sake you got a save the date), and they CONSTANTLY ask when the date is again. So. Annoying.

ilysespieces
Oct 5, 2009

When life becomes too painful, sometimes it's better to just become a drunk.
^^

My least favorite are people who, when you tell them your plans, they have to say "you know what would be better?" One of the attorneys in my office is like that, I avoid talking about plans at work because, apparently, literally everything I'm doing is wrong.

Coca Koala
Nov 28, 2005

ongoing nowhere
College Slice

smackfu posted:

"When are you getting engaged?"
Ok, we're engaged.
"When are you getting married?"
Ok, we're married.
"When are you having kids?"
Ok, we had a kid.
"When are you having another kid?"
Repeat until death.

I got married almost a year ago now, and my mom has been telling me that people from my hometown have been asking when I'll have kids. I told her that until further notice, the only answer she should give is "Nine months after pregnancy, approximately".

Problem!
Jan 1, 2007

I am the queen of France.
My mother in law told me not to get too many wedding pictures printed so we had plenty of wall space for pictures of kids :suicide:

When people tell you what you should do/not do for your wedding, there are two responses:
1) That sounds great, keep that in mind for your wedding; or
2) You already planned your wedding, let me plan mine.

I think it's the most annoying from people who are recently married because they should know better, but it still happens.

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem
Can anyone walk me through the name change process? I am in Oregon, if that helps. I thought that the way it works is I put the new name I want on the marriage license, but then when I went online to fill out the marriage license form it said the name I put down must match the name on my ID. Any advice would be appreciated, I don't want to screw this up.

OssiansFolly
Aug 3, 2012

Suffering at the factory of sadness every year.

remigious posted:

Can anyone walk me through the name change process? I am in Oregon, if that helps. I thought that the way it works is I put the new name I want on the marriage license, but then when I went online to fill out the marriage license form it said the name I put down must match the name on my ID. Any advice would be appreciated, I don't want to screw this up.

Most places are like this. There should be county forms for it and some wait time for it to be official.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

smackfu posted:

The only problem with a placeholder ring is that the first thing everyone wants to see after you get engaged is the ring.

We ended up just shopping openly for it together. Well, she spent a lot of time on Pinterest, and then we visited a few stores in person. Good thing, since I was way off on what she wanted. Then I picked one that she liked in the store and bought it and got it resized without her involved, so there was still a little bit of surprise.

I'm late to this, but Pinterest was a life saver for me. We had already talked about getting married in general, and she had a board of rings and other wedding related items. I was able to sneak some time away to go visit a few places with her sister and just show the jewelers what she wanted, and one place pulled out a design that was almost exactly what was posted, so that worked out well.

Also, my wedding is in 4 1/2 weeks. I want it to have happened at this point.

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

I'm getting married in a little over a month and I still have no gifts ordered. And thus, my question: My fiancee insists it's tradition for both of us to order gifts for the bridesmaids AND groomsmen. As in, both sets of people will get two sets of gifts, one from each of us, respectively. I had thought she was supposed to get gifts for my groomsmen and I for her bridesmaids, so I'm a little confused. If it's tradition to do it the way she wants it, fine, I'll shell out possibly $300 total for 12 people to get gifts, but if not, I think I'm still expected to do it at this point unless I want to fight about it.

bathhouse
Apr 21, 2010

We're getting into a rhythm now
That's interesting, i haven't heard of the gifts for the other side of the wedding party.

I'm getting gifts for my groomsmen, my parents, and the ring bearer. She's getting gifts for her bridesmaids, her parents, and the flower girl.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Yeah, I had only heard of the groom buying groomsmen gifts, and the bride getting bridesmaid gifts. I don't know why you would buy gifts for the opposite, you don't know them nearly as well, in general.

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Yeah, I had only heard of the groom buying groomsmen gifts, and the bride getting bridesmaid gifts. I don't know why you would buy gifts for the opposite, you don't know them nearly as well, in general.

Welp

I would have argued, but working 70 hours a week and still trying to plan a wedding kind of sucks the arguing right out of you. I actually thought THAT was the tradition, not getting them for your own wedding party, and especially not getting them for both wedding parties. Yeah I actually do know two of her bridesmaids decently well, but all I'm really ordering is wine glasses with their names on them and the wedding date. But yeah, it still seemed sort of weird to me to order gifts for her bridesmaids, like I'm saying, "Uh, thanks...? For being her bridesmaids or something?"

Buggiezor
Jun 6, 2011

For I am a cat, you see.
I live in NC and the marriage and name change stuff is done separate. You have to be married before you can change your name. So about a week after the wedding (when we returned from the honeymoon) I went to the Register of Deeds and got a copy of my Marriage certificate showing I am now married. Then I had to take the certificate along with my current Social security card and picture ID to the Social Security office and fill out the papers for the name change.

They then mailed me my new Social Security card with my new name. Only then was I able to take my marriage cert, new SS card and current driver's license and go to the DMV to get my name on my Driver's license changed.

THEN once I had my new driver's license I was finally able to change my name various other places like my Bank and Electricity accounts.



Also seconding that I bought gifts for my own bridesmaids and he bought gifts for his groomsmen.

The Baroness
Oct 1, 2004
Glasses, evil and HAWT

Buggiezor posted:

I live in NC and the marriage and name change stuff is done separate. You have to be married before you can change your name. So about a week after the wedding (when we returned from the honeymoon) I went to the Register of Deeds and got a copy of my Marriage certificate showing I am now married. Then I had to take the certificate along with my current Social security card and picture ID to the Social Security office and fill out the papers for the name change.

They then mailed me my new Social Security card with my new name. Only then was I able to take my marriage cert, new SS card and current driver's license and go to the DMV to get my name on my Driver's license changed.

THEN once I had my new driver's license I was finally able to change my name various other places like my Bank and Electricity accounts.


Huh. When I got married in NC(almost a decade ago), I just took the Marriage certificate and whatever temp. form the SS office gave me that day and went to get my driver's license immediately.

Problem!
Jan 1, 2007

I am the queen of France.
I lived in Texas when I got married but started the process with the official social security name change in Virginia.

A few days post-wedding the courthouse will have the official paperwork (the officiant has to walk that down to the courthouse so depending on how organized they are it could be a few days) that you can pick up. Make sure you get several official copies with the raised seal.

Take your official raised seal copy to the social security office (check their hours first because they have really dumb hours sometimes) and apply for a new social security card. They will give you a receipt thingy that you have put in a request for a name change. Then take your raised seal marriage certificate to the DMV and get yourself a new license. I brought my SS receipt but they only really cared about the marriage certificate, but ymmv with your particular DMV. I got a new temp drivers license on the spot with my new name.

Then, once you have your new social security card and new license with your new name on it, go to your bank and change your name at your bank/credit cards/etc, get a new passport (the US Passport office requires you mail them a raised seal copy along with $110), go to HR at work and get your name changed there, etc.

Then despair at just how many things have your name on it that you have to change.

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem
Thanks for the name change advice, everyone! That all sounds like a total pain in the butt.

Jamais Vu Again
Sep 16, 2012

zebras can have spots too
I feel better about my decision to be lazy and not change my name.

Mathhole
Jun 2, 2011

rot in hell, wonderbread.
Howdy all!

I'm shopping for an engagement ring and already got a good picture of the lucky lady's preferences.

Is this a good place to ask about pricing?

I found one I like at a highly rated local jewelry shop. The setting is white gold with .6 total weight of diamonds in the H, VSI range. Cost 1,500

The main stone is H, SI1 1.0 for 6,300.

Online I'm finding prices from 4500 - 7000 for ideal cut stones with the same specs.

I know they need to make a profit, but it seems like they should come down. Does 6,500 seem like a reasonable total price to ask for? Can I get better?

e: the setting price seems very reasonable based on my search online.

e2: woah I just learned a bit about certifications and this stone is GIA. I think he's asking a very reasonable number +- 10%

Mathhole fucked around with this message at 22:32 on May 9, 2015

JohnnyRnR
May 16, 2004
Beer Ninja
Without seeing the diamond there's no way to guess, but that price seems reasonable for something with that grade that is nicely cut. My price for a finely cut (Japanese style super-ideal) diamond would be in the same range.

If you like the visual appearance then I think you'll be safe to buy it.

EvilElmo
May 10, 2009
We decided to do a wedding website because we have a number of guests coming from overseas and interstate. Easiest way to let everyone know the logistics information as we organise it.

We're looking at Appy Couple, are there any websites any of you have used before that you recommend?

ilysespieces
Oct 5, 2009

When life becomes too painful, sometimes it's better to just become a drunk.

EvilElmo posted:

We're looking at Appy Couple, are there any websites any of you have used before that you recommend?

We have an Appy Couple site and like it well enough. It was super easy to track/get rsvps for our engagement party, that's for sure. I'm not sure if I'd pay for one if I could do it over again, but I don't regret spending money because it did the job and looks nice.


I'm not sure if I mentioned it here, but I decided to get my engagement ring reset after sleepless nights and possibly-awkward conversations and I got it back today and it's perfect and I love it and my fiancé is happy that I'm happy, now to just fret over if his family with notice that my ring is drastically different. Hopefully they didn't pay too much attention to the original ring to notice.

Mathhole
Jun 2, 2011

rot in hell, wonderbread.

JohnnyRnR posted:

Without seeing the diamond there's no way to guess, but that price seems reasonable for something with that grade that is nicely cut. My price for a finely cut (Japanese style super-ideal) diamond would be in the same range.

If you like the visual appearance then I think you'll be safe to buy it.

Thanks for the wise words!

I went for it and ended up getting him down to $4.5k because the GIA cert said the cut was merely 'good'. I looked at an 'excellent' next to my stone and couldn't see a huge difference in brilliance, so I skimped a little.

Total cost with setting ended up at $6000, and then tax put me just below 6,500, so I feel good!

And she's going to love it!

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

Mathhole posted:

Thanks for the wise words!

I went for it and ended up getting him down to $4.5k because the GIA cert said the cut was merely 'good'. I looked at an 'excellent' next to my stone and couldn't see a huge difference in brilliance, so I skimped a little.

Total cost with setting ended up at $6000, and then tax put me just below 6,500, so I feel good!

And she's going to love it!

That's about what I spent on my fiancee's engagement ring. The whole time I was looking I had her parents in my ear trying to tell me what to buy and bigger is better and quality is less important, so I mostly ignored them except for the setting and ring type she wanted, and did a compromise with the size and quality and what I had to spend.

Anyhow, she will love it like you said. I was nervous as gently caress about whether my fiancee would like hers or not, but after I proposed she was immediately on the phone with her parents and taking photos of it and sending them to everyone she knew.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Mathhole posted:

Thanks for the wise words!

I went for it and ended up getting him down to $4.5k because the GIA cert said the cut was merely 'good'. I looked at an 'excellent' next to my stone and couldn't see a huge difference in brilliance, so I skimped a little.

Total cost with setting ended up at $6000, and then tax put me just below 6,500, so I feel good!

And she's going to love it!

You paid tax? You went about it all wrong. Everyone knows the only way to purchase diamonds is through handing envelopes of cash to middlemen.

Nicol Bolas
Feb 13, 2009
Reality check: what the gently caress do you do with a bridesmaid dress when the wedding is over? I sure as poo poo am not wearing this David's purple polyester garbage ever again. I presume that selling it is impossible? So, what, donate it to goodwill? Or keep it in the back of my closet until my body returns to the loam and it still has failed to decay because it's loving polyester have I mentioned this dress is garbage and I hate it?

BrainParasite
Jan 24, 2003


Nicol Bolas posted:

Reality check: what the gently caress do you do with a bridesmaid dress when the wedding is over? I sure as poo poo am not wearing this David's purple polyester garbage ever again. I presume that selling it is impossible? So, what, donate it to goodwill? Or keep it in the back of my closet until my body returns to the loam and it still has failed to decay because it's loving polyester have I mentioned this dress is garbage and I hate it?

Keep them forever, but promise your boyfriend/fiance/husband/husband's ghost that some day you're taking them to Goodwill. Then complain you have no closet space.

Eris
Mar 20, 2002
If it's David's and you didn't alter it, you could totally sell it! I've bought a ton of bridesmaids dresses that way.

Nicol Bolas
Feb 13, 2009

Eris posted:

If it's David's and you didn't alter it, you could totally sell it! I've bought a ton of bridesmaids dresses that way.

Wait, this is awesome. Where can I buy this crap used?

Unfortunately, I'm definitely going to have to alter or pin or sonething, as it's a floor-length gown and I'm all of 5'2", but if I buy it used I don't have to give $200 to loving David's. I also have 3 colors and 2 styles to pick from so I imagine that increases my chances of finding it, right?

Primpin and Pimpin
Sep 2, 2011


Another option for what to do with it after the wedding is donating it for use as a prom or w/e dress. You'd have to research whether or not your city has that kind of program, plus you'd be forfeiting the money spent on a bridesmaid dress. I gave mine to a 13 year old girl who loved it even though it was an atrocious bright red full length dress. :shrug:

OssiansFolly
Aug 3, 2012

Suffering at the factory of sadness every year.

Justadae posted:

Another option for what to do with it after the wedding is donating it for use as a prom or w/e dress. You'd have to research whether or not your city has that kind of program, plus you'd be forfeiting the money spent on a bridesmaid dress. I gave mine to a 13 year old girl who loved it even though it was an atrocious bright red full length dress. :shrug:

The moment you buy a bridesmaid dress you are forfeiting the money. Even the bridesmaids in my wedding aren't going to wear the dresses and they are a simple grey dress in whatever style (of 5) they like.

Nicol Bolas
Feb 13, 2009
I'm happy to donate it or craft it or whatever after if selling is not realistic, but if anyone has suggestions for buying a used dress, I'm all ears. Upside: major manufacturer, David's bridal. Downside: one of two designs, one of three colors.

Eris
Mar 20, 2002
Check eBay! Or once wed or weddingbee or whatever. You can just google the style, color and size and I almost guarantee you'll find others selling theirs.

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OssiansFolly
Aug 3, 2012

Suffering at the factory of sadness every year.

Nicol Bolas posted:

I'm happy to donate it or craft it or whatever after if selling is not realistic, but if anyone has suggestions for buying a used dress, I'm all ears. Upside: major manufacturer, David's bridal. Downside: one of two designs, one of three colors.

There are sites that rent the dress...its like $75 and you rent it for the wedding and mail it back.

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